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NASB | John 16:28 "I came forth from the Father and have come into the world; I am leaving the world again and going to the Father." |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | John 16:28 "I came from the Father and have come into the world; again, I am leaving the world and going to the Father." |
Bible Question:
Unidentified responder wrote: "I presume I am unidentified responder, .... (see heading)." ParsonPat replies: I see no heading. Your response was received via Yahoo from the forum board. If either shows a header relating to your identify, I can't locate it. No games are intended, and the responses received are much appreciated and carefully scrutinized. I'm equating the usage of "Father" in the Gospels with Jesus (not in the entire NT) because that's what he seems to have done time and again whenever he was somehow likened to "God" (THEOS, in the sense that word is used to identify Yehovah/Jehovah/Allah of Judaism, Judeo-Christianity, and Islam). Accepted Judeo-Christian definitions for both God and Father aside, there is a major difference between the definitions of those 2 words in English, Greek, Hebrew, and in whatever other language they're used. To guide my research, I use various lexicons and dictionaries which also show significant differences in definition. This is why I suspect there might have been (I emphasize "might") something more to the meanings of those words in Jesus' mind than the usual post-Nicene/post-Reformation theological spins. In short, that's what I'm investigating and, granted, I may just be chasing my tail. But, that's how we might learn possibly new and different things and, at this point in my investigation, I'm considering the opinions of others. And don't worry: if I'm chasing geese, I'll drop it after I've exhausted all investigative avenues. PS: some of my postings are only polite acknowledgments of received responses. |
Bible Answer: Hello ParsonPat, Allah of Islam is not the most high God of the Bible. Given that the words THEOS and PATHR are different, why must there be "more to the meanings of those words in Jesus' mind"? You seem to be rejecting the simplest answer. Steve |