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NASB | John 16:28 "I came forth from the Father and have come into the world; I am leaving the world again and going to the Father." |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | John 16:28 "I came from the Father and have come into the world; again, I am leaving the world and going to the Father." |
Bible Question:
Searcher responded: "Even you just study the book of John, you'll see the Father (111 times) is God." Parson Pat replies: Acknowledged, but I don't to need see the word "Father" (PATHR) repeated another 111 times. I'm trying to possibly identify who that "Father" (PATHR) might be if not "God" (THEOS). IOW, why the difference in both spelling and definition? Do those differences mean anything specific or other than the traditional spin that GOD (theos) equals FATHER (pathr) equals IHSOUS (Jesus)? |
Bible Answer: I presume I am unidentified responder, although as far as I am aware my name is clearly shown (see heading). In John 16.27 Jesus speaks of the disciples as believing that He had come from the Father, and in John 16.28 He says that He had come from the Father. Then in 16.30 in reply to this the disciples declared, 'By this we believe that you came from God.' It is surely quite clear that the Father is being described by the disciples as God. The terms are indeed often interchangeable, although clearly having a different emphasis. I am not sure why you should equate the Father in the New Testament with Jesus. That application only occurs in Isaiah 9.6 where the idea is that He is Father to His people in the same way as David would have been seen as being. As has also been pointed out John 5.18 clearly parallels the Father with God. Where then is the difficulty? I am also not quite sure what you mean by the difference in spelling. Are not 'God' and 'Father' usually spelled differently? It does not appear to me that there is a difference in definition. Just an indication that the disciples were still hesitant about speaking of 'the Father' in the way that Jesus did. They possibly recognised even at this stage the huge difference between themselvess and Jesus. Your other two 'questions' do not appear to be questions at all, so I am not sure what their purpose is. Are you just playing games?. |