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NASB | Mark 11:22 And Jesus *answered saying to them, "Have faith in God. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Mark 11:22 Jesus replied, "Have faith in God [constantly]. |
Subject: Why doesn’t God just show himself to tho |
Bible Note: Lionstrong, I'm not making myself clear. We (believers) do have the whole Bible to base our belief on. But what do unbelievers have? They don't believe the Bible. They have nature as proof of God's existence. But if they do not believe in God or the Bible, quoting the Bible to them is nonsense. In fact, quoting the Bible in reference to my comment misses the whole point I was trying to make. I'm simply saying that without faith, without a pre-existing belief in God, without the Bible to quote from, all unbelievers have to BEGIN with is the evidence of God in nature. I assumed I was responding to an unbeliever (jmartin). I assumed jmartin does not accept the Bible as truth, so quoting it to him (at this point) would be jumping ahead. I was trying to start with the very basics by explaining that God wants us to come to Him in faith because of what is obvious (His existence in nature). From there I would have eventually begun quoting the Bible. But some well-meaning brothers jumped in and we got off on this tangent. I think John 6:69 confirms what I'm trying to say: the apostles first BELIEVED (faith) and then were able to KNOW (facts). Faith comes first. I agree with you: the Bible is provable and every word is true (even though every provable point is hotly debated). I didn't want to get into all that with an unbeliever and only add to his confusion at a time when he seems to be seeking. I just wanted him to know there was a Christian out there who would begin at the beginning and address his questions without thumping the Bible at him. If I have upset you or any of the brethren with my elementary level comments I apologize and withdraw them. In Christ, cwade |