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NASB | Mark 10:21 Looking at him, Jesus felt a love for him and said to him, "One thing you lack: go and sell all you possess and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow Me." |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Mark 10:21 Looking at him, Jesus felt a love (high regard, compassion) for him, and He said to him, "You lack one thing: go and sell all your property and give [the money] to the poor, and you will have [abundant] treasure in heaven; and come, follow Me [becoming My disciple, believing and trusting in Me and walking the same path of life that I walk]." |
Subject: What is your definition of Law and grace |
Bible Note: Bill: Whoa. First you say Jesus fulfilled the Law, and then go and say that it was the Pharisees who were "full of Law" compared with Christ, who was "full of grace and truth." The statement about Jesus is correct, but the problem with the Pharisees was not their following of Law, but rather their seeking justification through the Law and also looking at it as a tool to outwardly follow in order to win the praises of men, while their hearts were wicked and uncircumcized. I would also disagree with your definition of grace as well. Grace is God's extension of forgiveness to us in spite of the fact that we deserve exactly the opposite. You keep quoting Romans 7 and keep divorcing it from the point Paul is making at the end of the chapter: "I find then the principle that evil is present in me, the one who wants to do good. FOR I JOYFULLY CONCUR WITH THE LAW IN THE INNER MAN, but I see a different law in the members of my body, waging war against the law of my mind and making me a prisoner of the law of sin which is in my members. Wretched man that I am! Who will set me free from the body of this death? Thanks be to God through Jesus Christ our Lord! So then, on the one hand I MYSELF WITH MY MIND AM SERVING THE LAW OF GOD, but on the other, with my flesh the law of sin." Romans 7:21-25 Notice while we are free from the curse of the Law, the regenerated Paul concurs that the moral commands of the law are just and holy and good and spiritual, all of which are terms he uses to describe them in this chapter. The biggest issue that the antinomian has to address, however, is the fact that Paul quotes the Decalogue in his instructions to believers: "Owe nothing to anyone except to love one another; for he who loves his neighbor has fulfilled the law. For this, 'YOU SHALL NOT COMMIT ADULTERY, YOU SHALL NOT MURDER, YOU SHALL NOT STEAL, YOU SHALL NOT COVET,' and if there is any other commandment, it is summed up in this saying, 'YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF.' Love does no wrong to a neighbor; therefore love is the fulfillment of the law." --Romans 13:8-10 So if Christ is the fulfillment of the moral law in every sense (i.e. that we are not expected to follow it), how is our loving our neighbor (which is actually a quote from Leviticus--more law) "the fulfillment of the law" as well? He quotes four of the Ten Commandments here and says that WE are fulfilling the moral obligations of the law by loving others. Ephesians 6 shows us another quote from the Decalogue: "Children, obey your parents in the Lord, for this is right. HONOR YOUR FATHER AND MOTHER (which is the first commandment with a promise), SO THAT IT MAY BE WELL WITH YOU, AND THAT YOU MAY LIVE LONG ON THE EARTH." --Ephesians 6:1-3 Paul quotes straight from commandment number five here and reminds believing Gentiles that this is a commandment that needs to be continued. There is no other reasonable way to interpret this passage. He doesn't say, "The Ten Commandments don't matter, but it is a good idea to honor your parents." He re-issues the commandment verbatim. James has more to say on this: "If, however, you are fulfilling the royal law according to the Scripture, "YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF," you are doing well. But if you show partiality, you are committing sin and are convicted by the law as transgressors. For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles in one point, he has become guilty of all. For He who said, "DO NOT COMMIT ADULTERY," also said, "DO NOT COMMIT MURDER." Now if you do not commit adultery, but do commit murder, you have become a transgressor of the law. So speak and so act as those who are to be judged by the law of liberty." --James 2:8-12 James again quote Leviticus, and uses the Ten Commandments as a standard of determining the sinfulness of the believers he is addressing. Taking the whole counsel of God into consideration, there is no reasonable way to say that the Ten Commandments and God's larger moral law that encompasses these commandments have no value or application to the believer. The very apostles you cite as evidence for your position deny what you say in their writings. --Joe! |