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Subject: Is prophecy dead? |
Bible Note: Amen! Iron sharpens iron. I appreciate your comments very much. Allow me to start at the end, as I think it helps explain my position. I agree, definition of terms is important-what is 'slain' in the Spirit. I said that I had experienced all the above, and by that I meant that I have witnessed it. My explanation was poor, and I apologize. I have never personally been slain, but I have seen those who have felt the presence of God in such a powerful way that they could not stand. This was totally spontaneous, unplanned, no 'catchers' were waiting (prompting :-) and no hand was laid (pushed :-) I know the person well, and I believe it was of the Spririt. I have also seen 'Toronto-style mass-slaying' and I think it is (for the most part) NOT of the Spirit. The whole 'put-eachother-down' thing, with 'catchers' and 'manifestations' and 'Holy laughter,' etc. did not fit with any scriptural pattern that I know of. Neither am I fond of 'Ezekiel-like' prophecies (gobbledegook) or outrageous predictive prophecies that mislead and eventually hurt people. I know people who prophesy, whose words of exhortation, consolation and edification strengthened the church. They are mature and responsible, and they are not showmen, but godly people. I have seen false prophets and charlatans as well. As to the 100 percent thing, this is difficult to measure one way or the other. If you mean 'infallibility,' no one comes under that category, except the Lord Jesus. Many prophet's lives were a mess. But when they wrote it down by the Spirit, it was tested and proven. In the same manner, a present-day prophet must be responsible to speak God's with care, under His unction. I know people of this sort, their words are tested. I do not believe in 'hallway prophecy,' nor do I believe in 'endless diatribe' as prophecy. Prophecy must have purpose, and those purposes must be fulfilled, otherwise, indeed, the person is not a prophet. I do not believe that the 5-fold ministry has been emasculated, not do I believe that the Bible teaches that prophecy is dead. You are right, all prophecy must be in accord with scripture, and must be spoken in order and with responsibility. I still see that the Bible speaks of post-ascension apostles and prophets. (Just to clarify, are you saying that because no one could be 100 percent correct, then there are no prophets?) As with my other colleagues, I invite you to a 'non-Charismatic' church that operates in the gifts of the Spirit any time you are in Yokohama. Respectfully in Christ Jesus. charis |