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NASB | Jonah 2:9 But I will sacrifice to You With the voice of thanksgiving. That which I have vowed I will pay. Salvation is from the LORD." |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Jonah 2:9 "But [as for me], I will sacrifice to You With the voice of thanksgiving; I shall pay that which I have vowed. Salvation is from the LORD!" |
Subject: Does God choose us? |
Bible Note: Dear New Creature - If I may obtrude myself upon this amicable exchange of views for a moment, and amicable it is, and you and your correspondents are to be commended for keeping it such, I would like to add a few broad brush strokes to the present canvas by presenting a glimpse of certain aspects in the history of SBF that may have some bearing on the present topic. Being a senior member of SBF, both in terms of longevity here and on this earth (I'm 72), I've witnessed the Forum's progress and problems from its very early days till now and can think of no theological issue that quite matches the one that is the topic of this thread in its ability to engender strong views from quite sincere and honest believers who are on one side of the issue or the other. This issue, as you may be aware of, has been the subject of protracted, sometimes heated, debate for centuries on end, and owing to its nature, it probably will continue to be debated until the Lord returns. ...... You will not get any absolutely definitive answers to your questions on this Forum or indeed on any other Forum or from any theologian, because the prerequisite to fully understanding them is being able to fully understand the mind of God, and what man does that? John Calvin in one of his remarks that I love dearly said that God speaks to us in baby talk. How true this is, for there are so many things that God knows which are quite beyond the reach of our tether I've been a follower of Christ for 58 years, and please believe me when I say that there are many things that I don't fully understand, the present topic of this thread and many others. Oh, I have my list of questions that, when I get to glory, I'd like to ask the Lord, although He may not permit it and even so, I've a notion that I'll be too dazzled by His awesome presence that I'll forget most of the things that seemed of such burning moment in this life. ...... Well, I've rambled long enough and beg pardon, but would it upset you immensely to forgo keeping this thread alive and move on to something else? There are any number of good books on the topic of this thread, and our brother Doc would, I'm sure, be happy not only to recommend some of them to you but to endeavor to speak to any residual questions you may have via e-mail. Blessings to you as you continue in your walk with Christ and thank you for your participation on SBF. --Hank |