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NASB | Isaiah 9:6 For a child will be born to us, a son will be given to us; And the government will rest on His shoulders; And His name will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Eternal Father, Prince of Peace. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Isaiah 9:6 For to us a Child shall be born, to us a Son shall be given; And the government shall be upon His shoulder, And His name shall be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace. [Is 25:1; 40:9-11; Matt 28:18; Luke 2:11] |
Bible Question:
Greetings Punkiedo! I asked a question of someone the other day who shared your theological background, but he/she did not respond. May I ask you the same question? In John 14:16, Jesus says, "And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another Counselor to be with you forever—" Now, the word 'another' is the English translation of the Greek word 'allos'. The Enhanced Strongs says that this word indicates 'numerical distinction' or 'one besides'. Based upon the Oneness view, how can the Holy Spirit be 'another' Counselor? Yet, God's Word specifically says that this 'other' Counselor would be 'numerically distinct' from the Father. If I gave you a Snickers (my favorite) candy bar and then said that I would give you another one, would I being giving you another one if I simply took back the Snickers, called it a Mars Bar and gave it back to you? 'Another' indicates an actual numerical distinction. So, in your understanding, how do you explain that the Holy Spirit is 'another' Counselor? Thanks for your patience my friend! Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
Bible Answer: You know Tim to be honest with you when you said that I was like, woah wait a minute I have read that before. I was going to call in reinforcements (ask my pastor, who is also my dad) but then I was quickened in the spirit to read this scripture. So I will answer you with this. And just so you know I prefer KJV, not saying one is better than the other, it is just my personal preference. John 14 14 If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it. 15 If ye love me, keep my commandments. 16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; 17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you. 18 I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you. 19 Yet a little while, and the world seeth me no more; but ye see me: because I live, ye shall live also. 20 At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you. 21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him. Ok in the same breath that Jesus said that he says in verse 18 I WILL NOT LEAVE YOU COMFORTLESS I WILL COME TO YOU. So Jesus is going to come as the comforter? But he just said he was going to send another? In the same breath my dear friend he says, "At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you." So the comforter will be in you and Jesus says he will be in you. Interesting, just proves that they are 1. There is no triunity. And interestingly enough it says in verse 17 that "but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you." How could that be? He is sending someone else right? But he dwells with them abd SHALL BE IN THEM???? Because Jesus is the Holy Ghost. |