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NASB | Isaiah 14:12 "How you have fallen from heaven, O star of the morning, son of the dawn! You have been cut down to the earth, You who have weakened the nations! |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Isaiah 14:12 "How you have fallen from heaven, O star of the morning [light-bringer], son of the dawn! You have been cut down to the ground, You who have weakened the nations [king of Babylon]! |
Subject: How did sin originate |
Bible Note: Robert, thank you for your well thought out reply, along with the way you used the Bible to support your position. I think your answer was very helpful to me. The following verse which you posted reenforced my belief that Lucifer was created perfect. Thou wast upon the Holy mountain of God; Thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire. Thou wast perfect in all thy ways from the day thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee. Ezekiel 28 :14-15 And we know that this being, which was created perfect, was the originator of sin, and in fact is called the father or author of lies. So if Lucifer was created perfect, then Lucifer must have been created by the Sovereign God with the "free will" of choice. God must allowed Lucifer and the 1/3 of angelic beings to exercise their God given right to choose to either obey or disobey. And Adam and Eve must of also exercised their God given freedom of choice to disobey God in the Garden. I think you helped me think this through, although that raises more questions in my mind, like, after the fall in the Garden, does mankind in their fallen state, still possess a God given ability to choose right or wrong, or was that lost in the fall? If you would like to help me with this question also I would appreciate it very much Again, I thank you Robert |