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NASB | Genesis 22:12 He said, "Do not stretch out your hand against the lad, and do nothing to him; for now I know that you fear God, since you have not withheld your son, your only son, from Me." |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Genesis 22:12 The LORD said, "Do not reach out [with the knife in] your hand against the boy, and do nothing to [harm] him; for now I know that you fear God [with reverence and profound respect], since you have not withheld from Me your son, your only son [of promise]." |
Subject: Who was the one to be sacrificed? |
Bible Note: I have told you before that I persue truth. When I see something illogical in Muslim's faith I clearly say it out loud. When they give me arguments against Christianity and I refer to you then reply to them, they tell me that this is the stance of a Christian, since none knows my personal beliefs. And they simply despise it(and me) for that matter. When I see something historically wrong on behalf of Christians I say it clear cut, again, they tell me that this is the attitude of a Muslim. They don't like me, but I hate no one. I don't seek any side's contentment for me. I simply seek the truth. If that truth offends Christians or Muslims, it nonetheless is the unchangable truth. It seems you might have overlooked that I might be someone who's searching for a faith. That would require me to question both sides, would it not? As for Christians, we know quite well that Muhammad never encountered any at the time before Hijra (before going to Madina). Jews were concentrated in Madina also. According to Muslim references (which are highly doubtful), Jews and Christians were there for the sole purpose of awaiting someone they knew would be born at that time, and around these places. Again, if we look at the text in the Koran, we can clearly see that he didn't wait until after Hijra for his revelation to start. Moreover, hundreds of verses in the Koran deal not only with belief, but with the life and span of his stay and of Arab's history. Was that also recorded in Jewish teachings? Especially that they wouldn't care more or less for the pagan Arabs? What about the names of places? What about the stories associated with prophets which are nowhere to be found in the bible? If we accept what you said, we might just be questioning what reached us from the bible, and from what was usually concidered then as bible. Not convinced? Let's not forget that Jews in particular hold the belief that Jewdism is their religion only, and that they are exalted above gentiles. It would be highly questionable that one of them would go out of his way to teach a gentile his most holliest teachings when he knows that it would not even give salvation to him (assuming he could find a Jew in Mecca). Let's not forget also that Jews were from the few who refused the new religion, they couldn't have then seen it very much like their own religions would they? What does all this tell you? Logic my friend. When I translate a verse of the Koran and it says the Koran is divine revelation, or offends trinity. Then can you honestly say that this is what I I'm saying? Not what the verses honestly say when translated? Which I use only to show you what a Muslim would say to what he would concider very weak arguments. If I choose to take out such parts which offend the trinity or say that the Koran is divine, then I don't think the text can still be called part of the Koran?Perhaps the Koran revised and edited by a Christian. If I don't even state the verses, then I would be called ignorant for not knowing anything about the faith and it's replies to the attacks at hand. Would that be an "objective" reply to you? Logic my friend. Mist |