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NASB | Genesis 2:21 So the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon the man, and he slept; then He took one of his ribs and closed up the flesh at that place. |
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Genesis 2:21 So the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam; and while he slept, He took one of his ribs and closed up the flesh at that place. |
Bible Question: Can the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit be separated? Are they not one? And I only repeated what John the Baptist said in Matthew 3:11 and what Christ said in John 3;16 and Luke 23;43.The first commission Luke 24:45-49, The second Mark 16:15-18 and the third Matthew 28:19,20. IF I am understanding what you are saying is that you have to be baptized with water before you can be saved, Acts 10:43-48 To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins.44. While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Spirit fell on all them which heard the word. 45.And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, be cause that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Spirit.46.For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God Then answered Peter.47. Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Spirit as well as we. Was these people baptized with water before they received the Holy Spirit, I believe the question was if a person is not baptized with water and dies would they be saved, and again the malefactor on the cross was not, and Christ told him today he would be with him in paradise Luke 23:43. Christ does the saving and once we comply with John 3:16 I think as we comply what GOD says and not what man thinks. And again I am not sure what you are saying Luke 24:47 the first commission And repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem, the second commission Mark 16:15,16 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world. and preach the gospel to ever creature. 16. And he that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned. the third commission Matthew 28; 19,20 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, And of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit: if it a lines with GOD'S word is what counts when these commissions were wrote Christ had not ascended back to the Father yet and again it is not what we say it is what GOD'S WORD SAYS. |
Bible Answer: Greetings Mr. Smith I see you didn’t bother to answer my question about your Baptism. So I have to assume that you believe you had a baptism of the Holy Spirit, and probably another baptism by water. Which I understand is a common practice among the Pentecostal Belief. The Baptism of the Holy Spirit was given by God. And God decided who would have it and who wouldn’t Spirit baptism: the apostles on Pentecost Acts 2 and Cornelius' household in Acts 10. God determined who would receive it; it was not up to men to choose whether or not they would receive it. It was not administered by men, but was sent directly from the Lord in heaven. It was NEVER necessary to salvation, but was given in the age before the Bible was completed for the purpose of bestowing miraculous gifts Acts 1:21.22, it cannot be received today by anyone. Now that the Bible has been completed, Holy Spirit baptism has fulfilled its purpose and ceased So Mr. Smith you did not have the Baptism of the Spirit and as for the other baptism you probably had with water, that was done for the wrong reason, therefore all that did is get you wet. You said HOWEVER SHOULD WE BE BAPITZED YES, CHRIST SET THE EXAMPLE Yes we should be Baptized ! But was Christ’s Baptism an example ? three reasons for the baptism of Jesus by John. 1. It was to identify the Lord as the Son of God at the beginning of his ministry. 2. It was a commencement token of the total dedication of Christ in carrying out Heaven’s plan. 3. It was a visual precursor to the Savior’s ultimate death, burial, and resurrection. So Hardly an example for us. You mentioned the Thief on the cross as an example of saving without baptism. That doesn’t hold water for several reasons. 1. Do We Really Know that the Thief Was Never Baptized? Matthew 3:5,6 - People from Jerusalem, all Judea, and all the region round about were baptized by John 2. The Thief Cannot Be Used as an Example of Salvation by Gospel Faith Romans 10:9 - If you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised him from the dead, you will be saved. So, to have the faith required by the gospel, we must believe that God "has raised" Jesus from the dead. 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 - Jesus' death, burial, and resurrection are the fundamental facts of the gospel that we must receive, believe, and hold fast in order to be saved. The thief on the cross could not possibly believe Jesus had been raised from the dead, because He had not yet died, let alone been buried and raised. So, if it is true that the thief could not have received the baptism of the gospel, then it is also true that he could not have possessed the same faith that the gospel requires of us today. The gospel requires us to believe that Jesus has died, been buried, and been raised. The thief could not have believed this, because it had not happened. All that he could have believed would be to look forward to these events, even as John's baptism looked forward to them 3. Many Scriptures Teach that Baptism Is Essential to Receive Forgiveness under the Gospel. Mark 16:16,15 - The gospel teaches that he who believes and is baptized will be saved. Acts 2:38 - Repent and be baptized for the remission of sins. Acts 22:16 - Be baptized and wash away your sins. Romans 6:3,4; Galatians 3:26,27 - We are baptized into Christ, into His death. We have newness of life after we have been baptized (John 3:3,5). 1 Peter 3:21 - Baptism now saves us. Note carefully that all these passages state terms of salvation under the gospel - not the terms of salvation for people before the gospel came into effect. The gospel clearly teaches that baptism is essential to receive remission. God's word does not contradict itself. The case of the thief could not possibly prove that people are saved without baptism, because that would contradict other gospel passages. 4. The Thief Was Forgiven before the Gospel Came into Effect. So, the Old Law was in effect until Jesus died. But the thief was forgiven before Jesus died, while the first covenant was still in effect. The conditions he had to meet to be forgiven prove nothing about the conditions under which we are forgiven under the gospel. 5. Before His Death, Jesus Forgave People Directly as He Chose. After His Death, We Must Meet the Terms of His Will to Be Forgiven Mark 2:5-12; Luke 7:48,49; cf. John 8:1-11 - Before His death Jesus directly granted forgiveness to several people. Apparently the thief is another such case. But He did not forgive any of these people under the terms of the gospel, since the gospel was not yet in effect. These are not my words but the word of God In Christ Fmp |