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81 | Is Limited Atonement Bibical? | NT general Archive 1 | zach† | 35516 | ||
Brother John; Thank you for that Tozer quote. I have read that quote a few times in the past. I have read most everything of Tozer several times, and enjoy re-reading him when others quote him as well. And I agree with Tozer on everything I have read by him to the best of my recollection Thank you once again; Grace and Peace zach† |
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82 | tribulation vs. wrath | NT general Archive 1 | zach† | 35514 | ||
Mommapbs No problem; However, in Matthew 24:31 we see the elect, are still around after the tribulation mentioned in Matthew 24:29. Peace Grace and love zach† |
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83 | Tribulation before rapture? | Matthew | zach† | 35486 | ||
CDBJ The question I would ask is: Why does Matthew 24:29 say: Immediately after the tribulation, if what is meant is immediately after the mid-point of the tribulation? Grace and peace zach† |
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84 | Tribulation before rapture? | Matthew | zach† | 35447 | ||
CDBJ; I agree completely. But the question I initially asked was .... Does the tribulation precede the rapture. or does the rapture precede the tribulation. Please look at Matthew 24:29-31 before answering. Grace and peace zach† |
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85 | tribulation vs. wrath | NT general Archive 1 | zach† | 35445 | ||
Mommapbs; Thank you once again: Just one quick thought: Notice in Matthew 24:29 It mentions "the tribulation" singular, not plural. It isn't referring to trials and tribulation(s) (plural), but rather THE TRIBULATION. Peace and love zach_† |
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86 | Is Limited Atonement Bibical? | NT general Archive 1 | zach† | 35442 | ||
I was just re-grouping my thoughts and thought I should mention that what I believe in is universal invitation to salvation, but not universal salvation itself. Only the invitation is universal. Scripture is clear not everyone will eventually be saved. It is only those who will respond and appropriate the free offer or gift of life by faith, that will eventually be saved. Peace and love zach_† |
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87 | Tribulation before rapture? | Matthew | zach† | 35435 | ||
Steve; My question then would be: Is there more than one second advent or coming of our Lord Jesus? Shalom zach† |
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88 | Is Limited Atonement Bibical? | NT general Archive 1 | zach† | 35427 | ||
Hank; I personally doubt that Calvin would recognize what Calvinism has become. Consider the following: on John 3:16, Calvin said: ". . . The Heavenly Father loves the human race, and wishes that they should not perish.''11 Concerning the term whosoever in the same verse, he said: "And he has employed the universal term whosoever, both to invite all indiscriminately to partake of life, and to cut off every excuse from unbelievers. Such is also the impact of the term world, which he formerly used; for though nothing will be found in the world that is worthy of the favour of God, yet he shows himself to be reconciled to the whole world, when he invites all men without exception to the faith of Christ, which is nothing else than an entrance into life.'' John Calvin, Commentary on the Gospel According to John (Grand Rapids: Wm. Eerdmans Publishing Co., 1949), I, p. 125 The fact is the limited view of atonement was not popularly held until the Synod of Dort (1619) and the Westminster Confession of Faith (1647) long after Calvin’s death. I also don't consider myself to be an Arminian or a Calvinist. I would prefer to be called a Christian Bibilcist. one says I'm an Arminian, another says I'm Reformed, still another says I'm Baptist, another I’m Wesleyan. Was Christ divided, or were you baptized in the name of Calvin, or Arminius (my paraphrase of 1 Cor.1:12-13). Peace in Christ's name zach_† |
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89 | Is Limited Atonement Bibical? | NT general Archive 1 | zach† | 35426 | ||
John; I too hope we can get to better know each other, through this forum and our correspondance. Which denomination did you belong to before joining the PC USA? I agree the Holy Spirit is the only teacher which is referred to as the Spirit of truth and He has promised to guide us and teach us (John 14:26 and John 16:13 Also: "ye need not that any man teach you" 1 John 2:27 Below are a few questions we need to ask ourselves: Are the Holy Scriptures or the majority of popular teachers who hold to a particular doctrine the deciding factor that makes that doctrine correct? Are the notes in a study Bible inspired, like the actual Scriptures, or can these notes reflect the erroneous views of the commentator(s)? Are religious creeds and confessions man-made and, therefore, possibly in error? If a creed, confession, synod, etc. is contradicted by Scripture should we immediately reject it? Since many with an earned doctorate degree contradict each other and themselves, doesn't this further prove spiritual understanding doesn't come that way? Lastly: a quote by my favorite Christian writter: “The Scriptures, to be understood, must be read with the same Spirit that originally inspired them.” A.W. Tozer Grace and peace zach_† |
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90 | tribulation vs. wrath | NT general Archive 1 | zach† | 35366 | ||
Makarios; Thank you brother. Yes i am familar with that web-site, and have read Van Kampen's, "The Sign" and other publications of Robert Van Kampen as well. I guess that is part of the reason for asking the question. Shalom zach_† |
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91 | tribulation vs. wrath | NT general Archive 1 | zach† | 35360 | ||
Mommapbs; Thank you for you reply. I appreciate the fact that you expreesed your thoughts on this topic. And the following verse you posted is a good one. "For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ" 1Thess. 5:9 In that verse I see that "God has not appointed us for wrath" and I believe thats so. The problem I have is that I don't find a verse that says: God has not appointed us for tribulation. Actually when reading Matthew 24, I see it says: Mt 24:29 IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE TRIBULATION of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: 30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other. In the above verses, the order of things I notice is: 1) tribulation vs. 29 2) they shall see the Son of man coming vs. 30 (see Acts 1:11 also) 3) they shall gather together his elect vs. 31 (the gathering of the elect, comes after the tribulation) To put the rapture before the tribulation, would seem to put it out of scriptural order. With Christ's love zach_† |
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92 | Is Limited Atonement Bibical? | NT general Archive 1 | zach† | 35348 | ||
Dear brother John; If you go back to the initial post, where I asked this question that started this discussion, you will see that I gave personal background information about my self. In that, I shared, how I began my life with Christ as a Calvinist. I accepted and believed in all the 5 points of Calvinism. I read Calvin. I was taught Calvinism, I fellowshipped 2 or more times a week with Calvinist's. It was only after a long period of time spent in God's word, that the teachings of Calvinism became to appear more and more unScriptural to me. These days, the more I look into God's word, the more I personally see the errors of that teaching. So it's not as if I haven't looked at or ever studied Calvinistic teachings, because I have. These days I get accused of being an Arminian. I have not yet come to the point where I can personally say I am an Arminian. If any of my thoughts seem to reflect the Arminian position on this topic, it is not because I have studied Arminian teaching, rather my thoughts have been formed about this soley due to God's word. Currently I attend and am a member of a Christian Missionary Alliance Church. Now if you check into what they believe, I think you will see that they are not considered as being Arminian. At this time I enjoy attending there, and have felt I have the liberty at this church to express my conclusions drawn from Scripture. In the past seven years, I have taught adult Sunday school classes, and continue to lead an in-home small cell group. Even within the church I attend, we don't all agree with each other on all topics. Among the attenders and members, we have disagreements on things like the timing of the rapture, eternal security, etc. etc. But we do agree that each of us must be convinced about the truth, not through denominational creeds or catechism's etc. but rather be convinced about what we each believe through Scripture, which is our final authority for all faith and practice. I hope this helps you to understand me a bit better. In your reply, you mentioned "Unconditional Atonement" Did you mean Unlimited Atonement. Was that a mere typo? Finally, scripture says: "He died for all" 2 Cor. 5:15 Savation has been made universally available to all. Being made universally available doesn't mean all will be saved. Only those who appropriate that free offer of salvation by faith will receive it. He is the propitiation for our sins, but NOT FOR OUR SINS ONLY, but also for the sins of the whole world. 1 John 2:2 Let me finish my reply to you with something I agree with that Calvinist, Charles Spurgeon once said: In his sermon on Sunday morning, March 24, 1861, on Isaiah 1:18, Spurgeon said: Some of my brethren go to the length of asserting that there are no universal INVITAIONS in the Word of God. I have a big net this morning -- Oh, that we might all be caught in its meshes! There is not one of us today who can be exempt from this INVITATION; NONE ARE EXCLUDED hence, BUT THOSE WHO DO THEMSELVES EXCLUDE; With Christ-like love zach_† |
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93 | Halting short of faith in Christ. | Heb 6:4 | zach† | 35311 | ||
Just looked in Strongs Greek for the word "partaker" Here is what is found: 3353 metochos (met'-okh-os) from 3348; TDNT - 2:830,286; adj AV - partaker 4, partner 1, fellow 1; 6 1) sharing in, partaking 2) a partner (in a work, office, dignity) Shalom zach_† |
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94 | tribulation vs. wrath | NT general Archive 1 | zach† | 35310 | ||
I have heard it said that the difference between tribulation and the wrath of God is: Tribulation is Satan's wrath The wrath of God is God's anger which will come upon the ungodly. Anyone care to comment? Here is a few verses with the words "tribulation" and "wrath" Mt 24:21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. Rev. 7:14 And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. 1Thess. 1:10 And to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, even Jesus, which delivered us from the wrath to come. 1Thess. 5:9 For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ, Rev. 6:17 For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand? Rev. 16:1 And I heard a great voice out of the temple saying to the seven angels, Go your ways, and pour out the vials of the wrath of God upon the earth. In Christ zach_† |
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95 | Is Limited Atonement Bibical? | NT general Archive 1 | zach† | 35264 | ||
Dear brother Adams: I myself have not even scratched the surface of this topic. So I posted it to discuss my findings, wait for correction when needed, and learn from everyone. Brother Tim Moran has made excellent points in this discussion and I too appreciate him very much. We can all benefit from a discussion of this sort. With Christ-like love zach† |
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96 | O.T. Israel salvation? | John 6:49 | zach† | 35228 | ||
Joe; I have heard of Mr Shank, but haven't read anything by him as yet. Maybe Tim Moran can help you with other questions concerning him. Tim is more familar with him. As for the quotes. They are not my words, rather the words from a review of the book I found. The web site that quote can be found at is: http://www.crisispub.com/greek/RECOMMENDED(add a pertcent sign here the forum doesn't allow them)20BOOKS.htm The other quote came from the back cover of the book and can be found at Amazon.com Just type in book title which is Life In The Son by Robert Shank. Who knows; Maybe you could be the first one to prove him wrong :) In Christ zach† |
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97 | O.T. Israel salvation? | John 6:49 | zach† | 35145 | ||
charis; I don't totally disagree with you but still need to go yet another step further in my discussion with you if you don't mind. Look at the following portions of scripture: Acts 5:32 And we are his witnesses of these things; and so is also the Holy Ghost, whom God hath given to them that obey him. Heb 5:9 And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him; 1Pet. 1:22 Seeing ye have purified your souls in obeying the truth Don't these verses teach us something about the importance of our responsibility to obedience to the faith? Especially Heb. 5:9 I could use many other verses on this topic, but at this time won't. Even Jesus Himself said: "John 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments." So to me that would seem to indicate that non-obedience would necessarily give evidence of our lack of reverance and love for the Lord. Do you see what I mean. And by the way: You didn't indicate this but I will still state the following. I have no intentions of trying to trick you or trap you with my questions. In His name zach† |
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98 | O.T. Israel salvation? | John 6:49 | zach† | 35144 | ||
Brother Tim; Thank you for the information; This discussion will hopefully help both me and others come to a correct understanding of this text. Last night I was just reviewing a book by Robert Shank entitled "Life in the Son" Here is a review of Mr. Shanks book I found on the web. This is probably the greatest book ever written against the doctrine of Calvinistic perseverance. 41 years ago Dr. Robert Shank destroyed the Calvinistic doctrine of perseverance/eternal security, arguing from the Greek text. No Calvinist has dared to refute him, but all continue to philosophize, theologize-empty of objective facts from the Greek text on the real issues. June 19, 1959, Professor William W. Adams of The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, wrote the Introduction to Shanks work, saying: "If Mr. Shank is right in his interpretation and thesis, it is of the utmost importance for time and eternity that we come to understand his understanding of the Scriptures. If he is wrong, it remains for us to refute his thesis..." [bold print added]. And it still remains...the Christian world is still waiting for the Calvinist to affirm his position grounded in the Greek text of the New Testament. And here is an actual comment found on the back cover of Shank's book: "Internationally known among Bible scholars for his significant books in the field of biblical theology, Dr. Robert Shank here offers a penetrating study of all the pertinent New Testament Scriptures on the doctrine of perseverance. In doing so, he calls into question the popular doctrine of "eternal [unconditional] security." Are the proof passages used to support eternal security possibly misconstrued? Dr. Shank convincingly argues that the question confronting us is not, Is the believer secure? but rather, What does it mean to be a believer? If apostasy is an actual peril for every Christian, the Scriptural warning passages must be frankly accepted rather than interpreted into irrelevance or circumvented by theological hypothesis." Brother Tim have you ever read this book? I may order a used copy from Amazon for 6 dollars to add to my library. Also have you ever heard of Dan Corner? He has a web site at .... http://www.evangelicaloutreach.org/ and he has wriiten a book entitled: "The Believers Conditional Security" In Christ zach† |
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99 | O.T. Israel salvation? | John 6:49 | zach† | 35141 | ||
charis; Once again my brother in Christ, I feel compelled to continue this discussion. But this time using a slightly different approach. I begin by quoting from your last reply, because certain statements you posted seem to stand out. And this small one seems to contradict what I hear from you. Let me now quote you if I may. "This reward is something that God desires to give, but He will not without our submission" After reading that, I ask, when you say "not without our submission" that makes me believe that individuals must take some responsibility in the surrendering and yielding process. Your thoughts? To be brief I will finish with a quote on victory; "Victory is a by-product of obedience." (Jerry Bridges) Your thoughts In Christ zach† |
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100 | O.T. Israel salvation? | John 6:49 | zach† | 35100 | ||
dear charis; Your well wriiten reply reflects your full confidence and trust in our Lord and Savior, and I too believe that we have more in common, especially in the essentials of our salvation. I think it may possibly be that in some of the non-essential's is where we have disagreements, and in these instances we each have liberty, but in all things charity. Once again it seems to me from the entire message of scripture, that God's agape love for all is unsurpassable, and unmatchable. God is love (agape) that is His nature. Again it seems to me that we have to distinguish God's love from the kind of love man is capable of. That is why in my previous post I stated that God's love is unconditional, and I think you agree with that, if I read you correctly. The second point I made was our reationship with him is conditional. Look at this verse: Jude 1:21 Keep yourselves in the love of God, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life. I don't believe that salvation is obtained by works, however I do believe that true saving faith will produce works which is the evidence of our salvation, for even James says that "faith without works is dead." James 2:20 So if Jude 21 says we are to keep ourselves in the love of God, does that not then speak of some sort of responsibility on each believers part to remain in close constant cleaving abiding relationship with Him who called us out of darkness into His marvelous light? With the love of Christ zach† |
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