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61 | psalms... judgement chapter 1 verse 5 | Rev 20:15 | ariel levin | 225668 | ||
"...and punished with everlasting destruction, from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of His power (Matthew 25:46; Mark 9:48; 2 Thessalonians 1:7-10)...." So it's not an eternal punishment of torment, for 'destruction' means there's an ending, not a particularly good ending but an ending...?? |
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62 | psalms... judgement chapter 1 verse 5 | Rev 20:15 | ariel levin | 225676 | ||
My question marks were just that. I was questioning the point that was stated. Destroy - to tear down; demolish; to break up or spoil completely; ruin; to bring to total defeat; crush; to put an end to; do away with; to kill ... (www.yourdictionary.com) - so Destruction is to have (been) destroyed, to have (been) torn down, to have (been) demolished, etc. Everlasting - Lasting or enduring forever; exsisting or continuingwithout end (www.dictionary.net) So that which was stated in the creed, reads like it's a destruction in totality at one time of something that has nothing left to be revived or rebuilt, not something going on forever but something no longer there. That's what I was questioning. |
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63 | psalms... judgement chapter 1 verse 5 | Rev 20:15 | ariel levin | 225677 | ||
BradK, please check my response prior to this one. I was questioning the wording of the creed that had been shared. The words chosen have meanings that are different from what is normally taught. | ||||||
64 | psalms... judgement chapter 1 verse 5 | Rev 20:15 | ariel levin | 225696 | ||
Beja, I've been following your discussion with Ed and I think you're missing the fact that what Ed is saying is not that there's not a future judgment, but that there is no need of one. I think he agrees that scripture clearly states that there is a Throne judgment of all the unsaved, he's just simply stating what scripture also says, when the unrepentant dies in his/her sins, judgment at that moment is passed, the day of salvation for that person has come and gone. Because he is right in that there really is no need of a judgment and because you are right in that there is indeed a future judgment it gives me hope to think that because the latter judgment is on the "deeds" of the unrepentant, that perhaps there are levels of punishment, that the "good person" who just happened to not be a saved person is not judged or punished equally with the truly evil unrepentant. (As there are different rewards and crowns to be handed out to His own according to their works or deeds, hopefully there will be lesser and greater degrees of punishment for the unsaved also according to their works and or deeds. There are some mighty fine unsaved people who have lived in this world and done wonderful things for humankind.) |
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65 | psalms... judgement chapter 1 verse 5 | Rev 20:15 | ariel levin | 225733 | ||
Beja, It seems that Ed cleared up the confusion himself. I'm sorry, but I was able to take his references and understand what he was trying to say. :o) |
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