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61 | what God says about divorse/remarriage | Matt 5:31 | GeorJoy | 92550 | ||
"if the unbelieving depart, let him depart. A brother or a sister is not under bondage in such cases:" "if the unbelieving depart" AMAZING! I have read that many times, yet this is the first I have actually seen it. George |
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62 | Should a divorced person remarry? | Matt 5:31 | GeorJoy | 92617 | ||
Justme, I am not the originator. Only a messenger. If you don't like what I have stated, take it up with the originator. Bottom line; A Christian who is walking in the spirit will not (intentionally) commit adultry, and continue to live therein. If he does, he IS NOT walking in the spirit, for the spirit does not lead contrary to the word. If he thinks he is, he is only fooling himself. He is NOT living in Gods favor. I have only quoted the word, and my determination based thereon. Gods word is not always flowers and roses, as some would have it. The word in it's simplist form, a babe could understand. When our minds are clouded by lifes excuses and desires, the word often becomes incomprehensiable. Even Jesus stated that there would be those who would have a hard time accepting what He had stated on this topic. It's either in Matthew or Mark, possiably in the other two Gosples as well. See for yourself what he said. God's word never changes. No matter what the circumstance. George |
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63 | Should a divorced person remarry? | Matt 5:31 | GeorJoy | 92686 | ||
I will not argue the point my friend. If you are so offended by the scripture I quote from the word, and insist on "twisting" it, and "nit picking" my typo's as well, then so be it. You opted in to this conversation where I was concerned, I would suggest you opt out of my further conversations if you are so offended by the truth. If you don't want to hear it, don't ask. If you want to live by OT law, rather than accepting Christ's covenant, I would suggest you live it, for by it you will also be condemned. I make NO APPOLOGIES, for what you consider rude. It is the word of God and it IS THE TRUTH. And all who twist it are ANTICHRIST'S. I make no (it is spelled,) "INSINUATIONS." I would state though, that "he who yells the loudest is the one who is hurt most. Please, Justme. Read the word! Study the word. It's there. If only we will open our eyes and see it. Justme, it is apparent you can't or don't want to understand the "specifics" I did quote. I'm truly sorry you can't do a little research on your own and find some "specifics" which haven't been tanted with such as is apparent by so many of your reprisals where my posts are concerned. IF YOU COULD UNDERSTAND WHAT I HAVE QUOTED, THEN SURELY YOU WOULD HAVE UNDERSTOOD WHAT YOU READ, for whether you, I OR ANYONE ELSE like it or not, the answer is therein. I understand you, (and more and more, what appears to be your goal,) my friend. I could care less whether you understand me or not. As I have said, "if you have complaints concerning the scripture I have quoted, don't blame the messenger. Take it up with the Originator." I will respond to you my friend, no more on this topic. May God Bless, protect, watch over, and be with you and yours, and may He open yours, (and my) eyes as well, to the TRUTH CONTAINED IN THE WHOLE OF HIS "UNCLUTTERED, UNFOGGED, AND UNDEMENTED LIVING WORD. George |
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64 | Should a divorced person remarry? | Matt 5:31 | GeorJoy | 92781 | ||
Justme, when have I iniated a dispute between the two of us? I should think you would consider not taking what I have quoted and paraphrased from the word as a personal attack. Please reread all corespondence between yourself and me, with open eyes. You may learn something about someone very close. Kindness, I have for all. Where the Word is concerned, I can not help if someone considers it unkind. Respect, I have for "no one" who sugar cotes and changes the meaning of the word" out of what they consider "kindness" to others. I would suggest that anyone who has taken the time to read, knows at least some of the word. If they can't spread the Word without deluting and sugar coating it, it would be wise of them to keep their mouth shut, for that very Word speaks of their wages. Take care George |
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65 | Should a divorced person remarry? | Matt 5:31 | GeorJoy | 92782 | ||
Chriatian, my post dated 8/11 at 8:59pm was actually intended to address your note. For some strange reason, I thought "justme" had written that note. My appologies to "justme." Please Chriatian, replace justme's name therein with Chriatian. I'd like to ask out of curiosity. Is there a significance in (what appears to be a) typeO in your screen name? George |
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66 | Should a divorced person remarry? | Matt 5:31 | GeorJoy | 92783 | ||
My sincere appologies, Justme. I am at fault. I was mistaken in having used YOUR name in the post dated Mon 08/11/03, 8:59pm. George |
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67 | Should a divorced person remarry? | Matt 5:31 | GeorJoy | 92926 | ||
charley, against my better judgement, I will address this topic once again. If you desire scripture, go back and review my notes on this topic. If a child of yours is, lets say, cheating on tests in school, and that child comes to you and asks your forgiveness, what are you going to do? You love that child dearly. You may insist that that child admits his dishonesty to his teacher, you may not. Either way you are going to forgive that child. Now, what happens when two months later you find out that that same child is "still" cheating on tests. What are you going to do? Does the fact a your child was forgiven the first time give that child a free ticket to continue in his or her dishonesty? IT IS CALLED REPENTANCE, PEOPLE! REPENTANCE. R E P E N T A N C E. . . . . Does no one responding to this topic wnderstand the meaning of that word? Or does everyone think that salvation means they have a "free to continue in sin" ticket? Does salvation change the fact that a sin is a sin? It washes the sinner, but they dirty themselves immediately again, and if there is no real repentance, where is salvation? Why did the originataor of this topic make his post in the first place. Can no one see the Holy Spirits conviction apon that person? Remove the motes from your eyes. And then, read your bibles. You will find that your ignorance has already been discribed in the NT. If I seem blunt, it is only due to the fact that I am sick of the "sugar coated" non scence that I am seeing and hearing concerning scripture. If I answer a question, I will quote scripture. If pressed, or if I feel the need, I will give my biblically based interpritation thereof. The more I am pressed, the more "scripturally blunt I will become. I have quoted scripture. Everyone seems to want to argue what I have quoted. Argue all you want folks. But, as I have said at least three times in in this topic alone, "if you want to argue scripture, take your arguments to the originator. I am only a messenger." Too many today just want to hear what it is they want to hear. Why do you think there are so many different denominations? Good Night dear bretheren, and God rest this topic. George |
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68 | Should a divorced person remarry? | Matt 5:31 | GeorJoy | 92928 | ||
Aren't we all? George |
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69 | Should a divorced person remarry? | Matt 5:31 | GeorJoy | 93004 | ||
Well thank you my friend. Do I read your note correct in saying that I was responding to you as "Chriatian." Perhaps I'm not as senile as I was beginning to think I mah have been. George |
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70 | Should a divorced person remarry? | Matt 5:31 | GeorJoy | 93007 | ||
Thanks for what I will consider a compliment, for personally, I like onions. They come in various varietys. Some strong, some weak. They tend to add flavor to the stew, and often highlight the dish. Some can't stomach them. Others know just how to take them. Unlike Onions however, figs tend to churn up the stomach and often cause a digestive movement that tends to create a seriously bad smell. With a real rose comes thorns. When one is afraid of getting pricked and removes the thorns, he no longer has a rose bush, and it eventually dies. I see too many "thornless rose gardens." They tend to create the same stinch as does the final movement caused by the fig. Take care George |
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71 | Should a divorced person remarry? | Matt 5:31 | GeorJoy | 93011 | ||
Under the circumstances......... And considering previous discussions...... Who knows and who is to say. It almost sounds erie though. I quit trying to figure such things a long time ago. There is no common sense approach to things any more. I sometimes think that my greatest mistakes are in having thought that I was mistaken. "JUST JOKING. I once heard "The Fonze" say that on Happy Days. George |
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72 | Should a divorced person remarry? | Matt 5:31 | GeorJoy | 93012 | ||
None interprited. There were no insinuations intended in my response. I simply felt that it rightly discribed what is the general state of mind today. I'm not speaking of the Christian in general. Simply the mind set of many who call themselves Christians and many who are sucked into believing that salvation is without repentance, giving them a "free to sin ticket," and thus the word is deluted to a state of stinch. George |
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73 | Should a divorced person remarry? | Matt 5:31 | GeorJoy | 93105 | ||
Since I was just about to enter my teens. I am nearly over the hill now. The answer to your second questions depends on what you mean by active. I am an active church goer. I strive to let His light shine through me where ever I go and what ever I do. Although I currently attend a Penticostal Church Of God, I consider myself "non denominational." If they preach the Holy Bible, what difference does denomination make? I am an active bible student and have been since my late teens. You have read my profile, haven't you? It is a concise picture of my way of thinking, along with a smidgen of personal history. I am in the process of completing a degree in theology. I have a goal to be in full service of our Lord before I get "over the hill." As I recall, you said you went "over the hill" about 8 years ago. I'm looking forward to seeing if the grass is really greener on the other side. "I'm using the over the hill thing in jest." George |
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74 | Should a divorced person remarry? | Matt 5:31 | GeorJoy | 93109 | ||
My friend, you can play your word games all you want. I am not interested in a debate with anyone who, in a botched attempt to display intelligence, pens such a flowery, meaningless use of words, and twisting of scripture, as what is displayed in your post. Eph 5:6 Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience. Where scripture is concerned, I know many facts, and one is that your tactics are described therein as well as others I have noted. Col 2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, “after the tradition of men,” after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. 1Ti 6:3 If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness; 1Ti 6:4 He is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof cometh envy, strife, railings, evil surmisings, 1Ti 6:5 Perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness: from such withdraw thyself. As I have stated in previous posts; “even Satan can quote scripture, when it appears to serve his purpose, and desire.” I thus withdraw myself from any further debate on this particular topic, for I have presented the truth of the word. If anyone will accept it, Praise the Lord, otherwise, Lord forgive them, for they know not what they do. With respectful prayers toward all who have participated and, or read these notes on the topic of a “33 year old ongoing sin” of adultery; “is it justified or no?” Scripture says NO. Scripturally, the marriage was never recognised in the eyes of God from the first day, and though the sinners may have been forgiven, they have by no means been granted a “free to continue in sin” ticket. Like it or not; IT IS THE WORD…. IT IS CALL ED (REPENTANCE,) PEOPLE! REPENTANCE… Once again, per Mr. Webster it means intransitive senses 1 : to "turn from sin" and dedicate oneself to the amendment of one's life 2 a : to feel regret or contrition b : to change one's mind transitive senses 1 : to cause to feel regret or contrition 2 : to feel sorrow, regret, or contrition for –repenter noun R E P E N T A N C E… George |
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75 | Should a divorced person remarry? | Matt 5:31 | GeorJoy | 93112 | ||
justme. I am so thankfull you are just you and I am me. Please do not respond to any more of my notes. I will do likewise. Should you choose to ignore this request again, you can expect more of what seems to insult you so much, "undeluted Word." Charlie, my quotes are dirrectly from scripture. My paraphrases are based thereon as well. You have every right to disagree with me, but when I quote scripture dirrectly, and you or anyone disagrees, it is not my place to argue the point. I may attempt to clarify, but some have no desire for clarification. They only desire justification. If I am harsh, forgive me. If I am quoting dirrect scripture and being attacked for doing so, I am going to put it like it is, whether it offends or not. God Bless George |
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76 | adultrus marriage, a "marriage" in Gods | Matt 5:31 | GeorJoy | 93196 | ||
Thanks Mommapbs for your mature response on this topic. I only reciently discovered the truth of your statement “if the immoral partner chose not to repent I would say that divorce is justified in the word." I can’t remember where it is, but as best I can, I will paraphrase what I can remember of the scripture. “If the unbelieving partner chooses to leave, the believer is not bound.” “(deeply loved, completely forgiven, totally approved, accepted and reconciled as a new creature in Jesus,)” is a fact. However, I will admit that I may be wrong, but it is my stern belief is that “repentance” is an absolute necessity, not an optional choice. And how can one have "repented" if they are cintinuing in the sin? Forgiveness is for past and present sins, not a free ticket to continue in sin or a changing of the fact that a particular sin is a sin. Your note makes me ponder my belief deeply. You asked, “Don't you think that some might use this notion (not a marriage in God's eyes) as an excuse to dishonor the very relationship that God created and affirmed in the Garden?” I don’t know where the relationship that God created and affirmed in the Garden comes into play concerning my statement, for there most assuredly was no adultery therein, however I don’t doubt that not some, but many would use my notion, as they would any other biblical notion, to dishonor anything that God created, particularly His living word. I know that many do it through ignorance, but there is a point where ignorance has to either take the path of knowledge, or remain in their ignorance. I will not bend to their play of words and insistence on spreading their ignorance. Would God reconise a marriage between two men? I am sure there are just as many who will argue that point, for I was also flamed for my notes on homosexuality. If I am not mistaken the major flamer on this post, had some flames to throw therein as well. What is the difference between a homosexual and an adulterer? Are they not both sins against the flesh? As to Hosea 3:1. That took place during the 1st covenant. Christ, you will remember, stated in Mat 5:31 It hath been said, Whosoever shall put away his wife, let him give her a writing of divorcement: 32 But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: -----and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery.---- As I said in my very first note concerning this subject, “Dear friend, I can not answer your question. Nor can any other man. Many will voice their thoughts, including myself.” It is with deep sorrow and pity that I read the blasphemy and insults heaped upon myself for having quoted scripture and voiced my thoughts on this subject. Perhaps I myself have been overly blunt, but what I have stated is biblical and I therefore make absolutely no apologies. If what I say offends anyone, and it seems that there is at least one in this forum that everything I say offends, I can only say that if I have stated anything that I can not back up with scripture, then I am a liar, otherwise it might be wise of those who disagree to either do some deeper study of the word or simply keep the insinuations to themselves, for though I pray constantly about it, even I am not immune to anger and an occasional improper response. Can’t we agree to disagree? Thanks for your mature response on the point my friend. God Bless George |
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77 | Should a divorced person remarry? | Matt 5:31 | GeorJoy | 93198 | ||
Praise the Lord. Thank you newoldstock for your final response. I wish that others could read as well as yourself, for it is evident that you have read and understood my original note which has sparked an inferno of misinterpritations, insinuations, and downright childishness on the part of many respondants. God Bless, and thanks for the study of the word that that your note has generated where I am concerned. George |
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78 | Should a divorced person remarry? | Matt 5:31 | GeorJoy | 93199 | ||
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79 | Should a divorced person remarry? | Matt 5:31 | GeorJoy | 93201 | ||
I never made such a statement. However, does 2 pluss 2 equal 4? Add it up. ....... If one is living in sin. (pluss) one is forgiven of sin (equals) one does not continue in sins of the past. Forgiveness clenses one of sin. Continued sin dirties. Forgiveness does not come without repentance. Forgiveness does not change the fact that sin is sin. God Bless George |
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80 | Should a divorced person remarry? | Matt 5:31 | GeorJoy | 93204 | ||
You assume much. Too much... You understand little. Again, For the 3rd time I will ask you, PLEASE do not respond to my posts. George |
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