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561 | Slight historical skew? | Bible general Archive 1 | charis | 5808 | ||
Dear orthodoxy, We agree that we are both Christians, and disagree on the method and timing of baptism, but not the necessity. I prefer the baptism of a believer, and think that the leading of the Holy Spirit should guide the individual to decide whether to be baptized as a believer or not. You prefer the tradition of your church, which needs no restatement here. Fine. I have no further arguments, I think it would be unfruitful. Your statements are abrasive and your attitude toward the me is patronizing and offensive, not caring or loving. You know almost nothing of my salvation experience, my environment, or my walk in Christ, yet insist that you must offend. The whole thing about Rome has nothing to do with Biblical faith, yet you are bigoted and stiff-necked. I know that you think that you have no need of 'people skills,' but I think you do if you are to serve the body of Christ. Shu Iesu Kirisuto no shukufuku ga yutaka ni anata no ue ni arimasu you ni. Douka, kono kudaranai arasoi wo ato ni shite, sei naru majiwari ga dekimasu you ni. Kami no megumi ga kyoukai no ue ni sosogaremasu you ni. Shu Iesu no na ni yori, karisu May the Lord Jesus Christ put His abundant blessings upon you. O, that we may put this meaningless argument behind us, and engage in holy fellowship. May the grace of God be poured upon His church. In the name of the Lord Jesus, charis |
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562 | Slight historical skew? | Bible general Archive 1 | charis | 5801 | ||
Dear orthodoxy, I am not 'denounced' but my faith is 'rooted in heresy.'(?) Why don't I feel better about this? Friend, I am not an Anabaptist or Baptist. Never have been. I am not influenced by them. I am not just a product of someone's teaching, who is a product of someone's teaching, back to Rome. I am a believer in the Bible, and have come to my conclusions after reading and studying the Bible, Seeking the direction of the Holy Spirit, and studying the history of the church. I take offense at the suggestion that I could not come to some conclusions on my own. (and I don't take offense easily) "When therefore the Lord knew how the Pharisees had heard that Jesus made and baptized more disciples than John,(Though Jesus himself baptized not, but his disciples,)" John 4:1,2 NASB 'Then Peter said unto them, "Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost."'Acts 2:38 NASB I believe the above Scriptures speaks of baptism of believers. "Household" includes goats and camels. Please continue to sprinkle or pour water on you children, at your convenience, and believe that you have performed a work in their heart. I choose to wait, believing that God will keep them until their own faith comes forth. I believe that you are a Christian brother, and would hope to receive reciprocal courtesy. "Truly, you have a dizzying intellect" -Wesley Blessings in Jesus' name, charis |
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563 | Slight historical skew? | Bible general Archive 1 | charis | 5766 | ||
Dear orthodoxy, Please tell me who is being insulting? You have denounced every Christian that has Anabaptist, Baptist, or Pentecostal roots, and thrown in 'some' Charismatic, Methodist, and independents on the side, and declared them heretic for their non-traditional view of Scripture. Once you have aligned your tradition with the Roman Catholic Church and the Eastern Orthodox Church, you are indeed in the majority, and state that 'majority rules, and others drool.' What a bigoted form of faith.(bigot-a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices-Webster) When you state that 'we all come from Rome.' you are saying that every Christian's faith rides upon tradition. I prefer to believe that personal faith in Jesus Christ and the personal revelation of the Bible by the unction of the Holy Spirit are still working in the church. Am I wrong to believe this? "...Almost exclusively in the US." Please tell me, how much have you travelled, and how many years of study brought you to this conclusion? We finally come to Scripture. Your doctrine is based wholly on the assumption that 'household' MUST include infants and children, and that NT circumcision is baptism, and must be done on the eighth day (or whenever it is convenient for infant-parents-church facilities). Is this generally correct? I am sorry to ask the 'utterly impossible' of you, but don't you think that a reference that Jesus instituted this rite, or the apostles practiced it is in order? Your extrapolation of Scripture is strained. Does not the Old Testament promise of a 'circumcision of heart' (Deuteronomy 10:16 and 30:6, Jeremiah 4:4) speak of faith on the part of the individual, as compared to a rite performed by religious officials with the parents consent? What I am saying is that the bulk of you argument rests on majority and tradition, not the Bible. You state that you "...cannot detect anything offensive..." in "proclaiming the truths of Scripture." I, the minority, heartily disagree. This Bible Study Forum is not a 'soapbox' for denominations, but a place for research of the tenets of Christian faith. I would be glad to discuss with you the doctrine of baptism in it's various forms, but please keep your label of 'heresy' and the like to yourself. If I 'cross the line' by denying the virgin birth, the Triune nature of God, the efficacy of the name of Jesus, the Blood of Jesus, or the like, then bring out your accusations, dear brother-in-Christ. Peace upon you in Jesus' name, charis |
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564 | Slight historical skew? | Bible general Archive 1 | charis | 5695 | ||
Dear orthodoxy, You are perceptive! I am not an adherent of man-made tradition, no matter how old it is. But, you do me an injustice. The first paragraph was not all sarcasm, though I admit that a bit creeped in :-) I do admire people with definite beliefs. I admire more those whose strong beliefs are tempered with humility, breadth, and clear Bible foundation. Perhaps I did not construe your words correctly. You did make a very strong statement that had a 'us and them' 'we are right, they are wrong' quality to it. And 'they' are not just a pitiful little minority. You make it sound as if anyone that has forsaken the tradition of infant baptism is but a deceived follower of Anabaptist heresy. Your view of historical 'offshoots' is terribly over-simplified. My friend, this is hardly the way to 'make friends and influence people.' "Only churches that have come out of traditions that have been influenced by the Anabaptists refuse to baptise infants." Well, believe it or not, there are a good number of saints that read the Bible and came to that conclusion as a result of conviction by the Holy Spirit. Your 'compartmentalization' of Christian belief and history is astounding. I do 'look around,' and I do not see that "we all came from Rome at one point." I know that I didn't! "Ceasing to baptise infants into the covenant is not the norm, but an anomaly in church history." I order to prove that, you will have to come up with incontrovertible proof that Jesus taught infant baptism and the apostles and new testament saints practiced it. As yet, you have not even started to do so. Thus far, you have only potificated your denominational bent. Give us some Scripture! Bless you in the name of Jesus, charis |
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565 | Am I being censored? | Bible general Archive 1 | charis | 5670 | ||
Dear Cephas, I can call you 'dear' and 'friend' and 'fellow' because you have confessed Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior. I made no accusations, but simply used your word 'weird' in accord with Websters Dictionary. I use censure in the manner of 'appraise' or 'critique,' which should be acceptable usage. I meant only to clarify the difference between useful discussion and useless speculation. My posting, though connected to your comments, was for a forum of believers in Christ, not a personal attack on your character. I don't know enough about you to do that. I replied to your (several) postings, with the motive of expounding my absolute faith in God as a good God. I thank you for your forgiveness. In fact, I treasure it, if it is genuine. Peace upon you, Cephas, in Jesus' name, charis |
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566 | Is infant baptism Biblical? | Bible general Archive 1 | charis | 5656 | ||
Dear orthodoxy, Sorry, I meant "Your claim that the Anabaptists are the only ones that practice re-baptism of a believer is outrageous." Bless you, dear fellow believer, in Jesus' name, charis |
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567 | Is infant baptism Biblical? | Bible general Archive 1 | charis | 5655 | ||
Dear orthodoxy, Your claim that the Anabaptists are the only ones that practice baptism by a believer is outrageous! Also, your 'soteriology' does not allow or disallow anything. It is simply your opinion. We came to share and discuss, not pontificate :-) Bless you, dear fellow believer, in Jesus' name, charis |
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568 | Does God have free will? | Bible general Archive 1 | charis | 5649 | ||
Dear Cephas, As with your namesake, please do move on to other, more uplifting things. I do not say this in anger or exasperation, but for your own sake and ours. Peter walked with the Lord Jesus, yet doubted and left Him and even denied Him. He later was filled with the Spirit and this took away every doubt, every bit of skeptisism. He trusted God completely from that time to his death. To speculate that "maybe God this..." or "maybe God that..." is not giving due glory to God, or honoring Him. "What if God made evil?" is a worldly, humanist idea for a new 'Star Trek' movie, or a new 'fantasy' bestseller. This is a forum for sharing our thoughts about a glorious God, full, completely full of goodness and lovingkindness. To investigate His holy Bible for truth and love. I don't know about others, but I find speculation about God's intentions and motives to be peace-robbing, not edifying or peace-giving. Bless you, dear friend, in Jesus' name, charis |
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569 | Why do you continue to ask? | Bible general Archive 1 | charis | 5513 | ||
Dear orthodoxy, Welcome to the forum. I am aware that my solution to this problem has serious logical, philosophical, and theological problems. But, to be honest, I don't deal all that often with logical, philosophical, and theological people. Most saints are not as deep as this question has become. (I, personally, think the discussion has become inane) Most saints trust that God is absolutely good, and know that satan is the author of our troubles. Your answer, though perfectly acceptable, is more mystical (somehow) than plain. It is, however, better than saying that God is (ultimately) responsible for evil :-) (btw, is it truly logical to assume that because God made Lucifer, God made evil?) Blessings to you in Jesus' name, charis |
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570 | What was Eve's sin? | Gen 3:6 | charis | 5501 | ||
Dear Hank, As usual, your insight is a pearl of wisdom. Thank you for always sharing with us the faith that God has blessed you with. I receive this gift of peace, fully believing it to be from the Lord by His Spirit through His servant. Peace upon you in Jesus' name, charis |
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571 | What was Eve's sin? | Gen 3:6 | charis | 5498 | ||
Dear Lionstrong, Indeed, iron sharpens iron! If I may be allowed, I will share a personal experience. I worked at a Japanese steakhouse years ago, and learned a lot about fine cutlery and it's maintenance. Some chefs would go out to their station and put on a fine show of 'swordsmanship' and skill with a knife. Their blades were honed, but the skill was in their wielding of the tool. Other chefs were constantly making a public show of sharpening their knives, so much so that their expensive blades were soon reduced to a nubbin. But their job of cutting and serving food was subpar. Also, as a former carpenter, I can testify that an ultra-sharp saw doesn't necessarily cut any straighter :-) As Nolan Keck said, "We should examine ourselves to see what our motives are before logging onto the Forum." I will try to do so. In Christ Jesus, charis |
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572 | What was Eve's sin? | Gen 3:6 | charis | 5497 | ||
Dear Joy, Amen and Amen! I join Hank and Nolan Keck in saying thank you! In Jesus' name, charis |
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573 | A silly question? | Josh 10:12 | charis | 5496 | ||
Dear Lionstrong, I did go to irc.org and found the basic assertions of geocentricity: a. the earth is the center of the universe b. the earth is fixed (i.e., immobile) in space c. the earth is unique and special compared to all other heavenly bodies I have no problem with 'c' at all, and the article focuses on this. We agree. In the same article, regarding 'a' and 'b' it states: Evidently, while the physical form of the universe is an interesting scientific issue, it is not of very great importance Biblically. The lack of explicit Biblical teaching on this whole matter makes it impossible to call any conceptual model of the form of the universe "the Biblical view." Also quoted was Einstein's General Theory of Relativity. It asserts that it is impossible for a human observer to determine whether any material body is in a state of absolute rest. I agree with sola scriptura, but am at peace not to speculate where the Scripture is silent. My basic understanding of physics (not Ph.D stuff, mind you) does not interfere with my understanding of the Bible, my faith in God, or my life in Christ Jesus. Blessings in Jesus' name, charis |
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574 | Why do you continue to ask? | Bible general Archive 1 | charis | 5440 | ||
Dear Cephas, If all you can conclude thus far is that God made angels and men capable of evil(and good), that is slightly better that holding God personally responsible for evil. Does it not seem to you that this entire line of hypothesis is quite negative, even disrespectful toward God? Delving deeper than the universally accepted and Biblically-confirmed idea that Lucifer is the author of all our troubles seems counter-faith to me. The Lord Jesus has ordained the church and His chosen servants to disciple and nurture His people. Please avail yourself of this gift and see if your pastor can give you guidance. I must admit that I cannot fathom any reason for pursuing the 'ultimate root' of evil if you presuppose that the culprit is God. Because if one does not accept that it is Lucifer(satan), it must be his Creator. I personally cannot see God having anything to do at all with the introduction of evil into this world. Peace in Jesus' name, charis |
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575 | Is whate'er my God ordains right? | Bible general Archive 1 | charis | 5439 | ||
Dear Lionstrong, The point of all of the above string of postings was to say that God is right? Well, I agree that He is absoulutely right. Logic would dictate, then, that He could not cause or be responsible for wrong, or evil. Perhaps I am too simple for this discussion. Pardon me if I have misjudged you or misinterpreted your words. Blessings in Christ Jesus, charis |
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576 | Is God responsible for evil? | Bible general Archive 1 | charis | 5421 | ||
Dear forrest, Fear not, Radioman's bark is worse than his bite :-) Though I am not affiliated with the Lockman Foundation in any way, I am sure that they are trying to make this Forum the best it can be. Any user interface has its problems, and this one is still teething. Don't worry too much about the spell-checking, we all make some mistakes, some several magnitudes more than others :-) Blessings upon you for your participation in this Bible fellowship. In Christ Jesus, charis |
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577 | Folks, It's Time for A Change! | Phil 2:14 | charis | 5048 | ||
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578 | Who are the scribes? | NT general Archive 1 | charis | 5003 | ||
Dear prayon, Sorry, I dind't mean to be confusing. Hank was asking who the scribes were, and you answered beautifully. I am asking who they are today. What would characterize the modern version of a scribe? Blessings in Christ Jesus, charis |
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579 | Will you join me? | Acts 2:33 | charis | 4966 | ||
Dear RevC, These discussions have not borne fruit. I do not lambaste you, personally, and I admit that you have been a gentleman. However the Tri-Une nature of God is an integral part of virtually every Christian creed, and is not food for debate, any more than a denial of the Virgin Birth, the infallibility of the Bible, or the work of the Cross. A 'oneness' or 'Jesus-only' God is not merely a 'matter of discussion,' but divisive, and inherently destructive. This is the reason for my boycott. Indeed, you are free to discuss anything you like, but I cannot participate. With Love in Christ Jesus, charis |
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580 | Pre-Forum thinking? | Acts 2:38 | charis | 4954 | ||
Dear Buf, The original question has to do with water baptism, and the discussion that followed was centered on the name into which a believer is baptized. Concerning this issue, I am no longer 'hung up' on the controversy between the two camps, which some call a 'formula.' However, I take very seriously, as a Christian, the words of encouragement from the apostle Paul, "And whatever you do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks through Him to God the Father." Colossians 3:17 NASB. I do not consider this to be a legal 'commandment' to be adhered to by the letter, but an attitude of heart, to be pursued with joy and faith. If you find my usage of the name of Jesus amusing or are implying something, please say so. My stance in this issue is clear, and anyone who has read my previous postings would find the answer to your question obvious. Finally, I was addressing my colleague Ray concerning his distress concerning water baptism. In Christ Jesus, charis |
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