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41 | Was it complete? | Bible general Archive 1 | Grace and Truth | 51377 | ||
I understand her point about time, but my point is from the time Saul heard the gospel to the time he was baptized was the same hour. Yes he met the Lord three day earlyer, but my point was all those who believed after they heard the gospel were baptized the same hour! What I first stated my question it was show me someone who believed the gospel and was not baptized in the same hour? | ||||||
42 | Mark 16:16 what does it say? | Bible general Archive 1 | Grace and Truth | 51382 | ||
You ask about Gal 3:15-17, which is the promised seed! Which is Christ! vs.2 is what Paul is addressing: "This only would I learn of you, Recieved ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith (Gospel)? And the verses are talking about the Law of Moses and the faith of Abraham I agree! vs.11 "The just shall live by faith (Gospel)". | ||||||
43 | Was it complete? | Bible general Archive 1 | Grace and Truth | 51387 | ||
Just as the Lord spoke to him on the road to Damascus, the Lord told him what to DO! (Mark 16:16 is what the Lord told the apostles to tell us). Here's a thief question, why didn't the Lord save Saul right there? Why did he send him to Ananias? Why did Ananias tell Saul get up and be baptized and wash away his sins? I know you're going to say he was already (saved) but a saved person doesn't need to be baptized and wash away his sins, as did Saul. I'm glad we stop by this scripture! Here we have the Lord himself telling Saul to go hear the gospel and believe it and be baptized and wash away his sins through Ananias! This something that can't be denied, this takes care of the thief question and all other question concerning salvation. This is the Risen Christ telling someone what they MUST DO to be saved! We know Jesus could have saved Saul right there, but He sent him to Ananias a servant of his to tell Saul what he MUST DO to be SAVED! Now if Jesus told Ananias what to tell Saul, and He did! Who on this forum can say that baptism is not in God's salvation plan? Or did Ananias say anything about baptism? And if he did, what did he say, and who told him to say whatever he said? And Why? | ||||||
44 | Was it complete? | Bible general Archive 1 | Grace and Truth | 51394 | ||
I posted it that way, it was from the christiancourier.com on Cornelius. | ||||||
45 | Do we as men dictate the terms of Salv? | Bible general Archive 1 | Grace and Truth | 51418 | ||
Let me see if I'm understanding you correctly, The book of Galatians, ;1,2Cor.;Eph;Col;Phil;Romans;etc. were written to baptized believers or unbaptized believers? You put what Jesus tells us to do to be saved, (to be baptized) in the same category as the Law of Moses! 1 John 2:4 "He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a lair, and the truth is not in him". How can John say this about believers, and you say Paul in his writing is excluding baptism, when Jesus is the one who told his disciples to preach and teach men what to do to be saved. Jesus told Ananias to tell Saul to "arise and be baptized and wash away his sins" Acts 22:16. 1 John 5:4-12 mainly vs.6-8 "This is he that came by water and blood, even Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood, And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth. vs.7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit: and these three are one. vs.8 And there are three that bear witness in earth, the spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one. vs. If we receive the witness fo men, the witness of God is greater: for this is the witness of God, which he hath testified of his Son. From the above passages what do we learn, We need to have faith in what God tells us to do, and do it without questions! Why do you look for a way out of what Jesus said? Do we as men dictate the terms of salvation or does God dictate the terms? | ||||||
46 | Was it complete? | Bible general Archive 1 | Grace and Truth | 51481 | ||
B. OBSERVATIONS REGARDING THE RESPONSE... 1. People responded in three different ways - Ac 17:32-34 a. Some mocked what they heard b. Some put off making a decision until later c. Some decided to follow with Paul and believed -- Since we have no promise of tomorrow, the only safe course is the last! 2. Of those who responded favorably, it is only said that they "believed" - Ac 17:34 a. Are we to conclude from this that was all they did? b. Did they not also "repent", as commanded in Ac 17:30? c. The term "believed" encompassed more than simply an acceptance of the facts that had been proclaimed 1) It involved a complete reception of the message preached 2) It included an obedience to whatever conditions had been proclaimed by the apostles (such as repentance, baptism) d. Just as faith was not explicitly mentioned in Acts 2, or repentance in Acts 16, but is fairly inferred from what we know from other passages, so also with baptism here 1) "There is, indeed, much to be said for the contention, independently advocated by theologians of varied schools, that in the New Testament faith and baptism are viewed as inseparables whenever the subject of Christian initiation is under discussion, so that if one is referred to, the other is presupposed, even if not mentioned." - G. R. Beasley-Murray, Baptism In The New Testament, p. 272 2) "Baptism and faith are but the outside and inside of the same thing" - James Denny (as quoted by Beasley-Murray, ibid.) 3) "Where baptism is spoken of faith is presumed, and where faith is spoken of baptism is included in the thought" - N. J. Engelsen (as quoted by Beasley-Murray, ibid.) CONCLUSION 1. Whether Jew or Gentile, philosopher or simpleton, the gospel of Christ is for all... a. Where we begin may vary with the spiritual condition of our audience b. Where we end must always be the same: 1) Proclaiming the reality of sin, judgment, and the need for repentance 2) With Jesus as the only way to salvation! 2. When one becomes convicted of their sinful condition and their need for Jesus, the proper response should also be the same no matter who we are... a. Faith in Jesus as the Son of God, who died for our sins and was raised from the dead, whom we are willing to confess before men b. Repentance from sin d. Baptism into Christ for the forgiveness of sins through His blood One's reaction to the gospel will always be one of three ways: * Rejection ("some mocked") * Reluctance ("others said, we will hear you again on this matter") * Reception ("some men joined him and believed") In Athens, people such as Dionysius and Damaris exemplified the proper response; are you willing to imitate their example? |
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47 | Do we as men dictate the terms of Salv? | Bible general Archive 1 | Grace and Truth | 51509 | ||
I have a problem with what you teach because you ignore plain bible teaching, James 2:22 says Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and (by works was faith made perfect)? vs. 24 Ye see then how that by works a man is (JUSTIFIED), AND (NOT BY FAITH ONLY). So what you are telling me is to ignore what the bible is teaching, but I can't do that. So where do I get my understanding? From the word of God. You state that if we include baptism in water with God's plan of salvation we are wrong in doing so, But if God included baptism in water with HIS plan of salvation is HE wrong in doing so? Baptism in water came from God and not us who teach it. Matt.21:25 can you answer Jesus's question? |
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48 | Do we as men dictate the terms of Salv? | Bible general Archive 1 | Grace and Truth | 51516 | ||
It doesn't contradict Mark 16:16, Acts 2:38;8:38-39. When you read Gal,Eph and other text you are missing the fact the people being spoken to had already been baptized in water and they knew the reason why. Follow Paul's missionary journey in the book of Acts and you will see this to be true. | ||||||
49 | Do we as men dictate the terms of Salv? | Bible general Archive 1 | Grace and Truth | 51525 | ||
Roman 4 does not contradict the need for baptism because Paul in the 6 chapter explains how we are buried by baptism into the death of Christ! Eph 2:8-9 does not contradict because in chapter 5:26 tells us we are cleanse with the washing of water by the word. Galatians does not contradict because in chapter 3:27 tells us we are baptized into Christ and have put on Christ. I know you refer to these passages as Holy Spirit baptism, but that's not what Paul is saying. I don't know if you notice that all of the places you were seeking justification by only, water baptism is there with faith. Finally, in each book that you referenced, who was the book written to, those who have already been baptized for the remission of thier sins. |
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50 | Do we as men dictate the terms of Salv? | Bible general Archive 1 | Grace and Truth | 51527 | ||
Roman 4 does not contradict the need for baptism because Paul in the 6 chapter explains how we are buried by baptism into the death of Christ! Eph 2:8-9 does not contradict because in chapter 5:26 tells us we are cleanse with the washing of water by the word. Galatians does not contradict because in chapter 3:27 tells us we are baptized into Christ and have put on Christ. I know you refer to these passages as Holy Spirit baptism, but that's not what Paul is saying. I don't know if you notice that all of the places you were seeking justification by faith only, water baptism is there with faith. Finally, in each book that you referenced, who was the book written to, those who have already been baptized for the remission of thier sins. |
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51 | Do we as men dictate the terms of Salv? | Bible general Archive 1 | Grace and Truth | 51807 | ||
"I don't put baptism in the category of what Jesus tells us to do in order to be saved. I know: Mark 16:16. Please cite for me ANY other verse where Jesus links baptism and salvation. As has been clearly pointed out, that section of Mark may not be the divinely-inspired writing of Mark. You believing it was definitely in the autographs is a an article of faith on your part and not an extablished fact". This is my whole point to you. You want someone to produce another, verse in the bible, but you know you would have to add to God's word to do it. But yet you wish to take Mark 16:16 out of all bibles and trying to say it's not inspired. I believe you and your friends want to take this verse out because it doesn't support your view of salvation. As I told Hank, Mark 16:16 is here to stay. You mentioned John 6:53, the people's reply to it, was, "this is a hard saying who can hear it" Mark 16:16 is viewed the same way today, by those who want to throw it out, instead of obeying what it says! "The water in baptism is a sign of washing away sins, just like the bread and the cup are the sign of Christ's body being offered for His people. The sign of baptism accompanies the reality of regeneration, but it is not the same thing as regeneration" Your above statement says baptism is a sign, baptism takes faith just like all spoken words from God's book, you have to believe in the power of what God said it for. Your last statement to mouse2, "that statement makes no sense" it made sense to Abraham! |
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52 | Do we as men dictate the terms of Salv? | Bible general Archive 1 | Grace and Truth | 51823 | ||
"Q: If someone repents, and accepts Jesus as his Saviour on their deathbed, without the chance to be baptized, are they saved? A: Yes(Matt 20:16 "So the last shall be first, and the first last." (NASB)) You used (Matt 20:16) but you neglected verse 1 For the kingdom of heaven is like unto a man that is an householder, which went out early in the morning to (hire LABOURERS) INTO HIS VINEYARD. To do what? Mark 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved, and he that believeth not shall be condenmed. Yes Jesus completed his work on earth, now it's our turn. Remember the new covenant started when Jesus went back to heaven, after sending the 11 to Jerusalem, to wait for the coming of the Holy Spirit. |
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53 | Do we as men dictate the terms of Salv? | Bible general Archive 1 | Grace and Truth | 51824 | ||
Did Hank also tell you that parts of Revelations are missing and parts of Timothy are missing from these manuscripts! Does that make the ones that do have it, invalid? | ||||||
54 | Do we as men dictate the terms of Salv? | Bible general Archive 1 | Grace and Truth | 51828 | ||
I will gather the information,and share it you soon. | ||||||
55 | Do we as men dictate the terms of Salv? | Bible general Archive 1 | Grace and Truth | 51900 | ||
Wasn't it you who brought up the thief on the cross, to get around being baptized, and those on their death bed. I stated that baptism is a (part) of not the whole, of God's salvation plan; you stated, it was not! I'm not in the dark about anything, I just stated a fact about what JESUS SAID! You mentioned that Mark 16:16 was not in (many) of the older manuscripts and therefore its inspiration is questionable, if its in just one, does that mean we throw it out? Back to being in the dark, and out-of-touch, the things were talking about are nearly two thousand years old, like the christian faith, so how can someone be out-of-touch as you call it. Is it because I won't go with the flow of new-age teachings? Then you want to attact the church of Christ, what's up with that? No one attact the church you go to! Last thing, you mentioned that you are making your last post on this subject, but it is the most important subject in life itself, and people need to hear and understand what God's word teaches on this subject, so why stop now? You ask what Christian does not want to obey the command to get baptized? All true christians have been baptized for the remission of their sins! And I mean it when I say All true christians, because they understand what they heard, and believed, they repented of their sin, they confess the name of Jesus Christ, and were baptized for the remission of their sins, and God added them to the church that Jesus purchase with his own blood, and we are living for Him every day. | ||||||
56 | Is denominatalism a sin? | Bible general Archive 1 | Grace and Truth | 51968 | ||
Is denominatalism a sin? What I mean is we have hundreds of different churches in this country alone, is that type of division pleasing to God? | ||||||
57 | what is covenant? | Bible general Archive 1 | Grace and Truth | 51951 | ||
Read Hebrews chapter 8,9. | ||||||
58 | Was it complete? | Bible general Archive 1 | Grace and Truth | 53953 | ||
"Tim, if only there was some way to cut and paste Ephesians 2:8,9 so that it appeared to be an integral part of either Mark 16:16 or Acts 2:38! Perhaps you could sneak it in and catch the baptismal regenerators by surprise. No? Well, it was just a thought, the only remedy that we haven't tried to get their attention off Mark 16:16 and Acts 2:38". --Hank Here's one of your post in agreement with Tim! ID#51241 6/11/02 at 11:09pm. |
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59 | Was it complete? | Bible general Archive 1 | Grace and Truth | 54030 | ||
FORUM MEMBERS: My point about this issue is in reguards to Mark 16:9-20, Hank, tells me that he and members of this forum believe that this portion of scripture are not in the origional manuscrips, therefore (not inspired) He's in agreement with Tim Moran on this issue, therefore I stand on my word! | ||||||
60 | Was it complete? | Bible general Archive 1 | Grace and Truth | 54048 | ||
Is Mark 16:9-20 in your bible? | ||||||
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