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41 | question to smoke pot or not | Gen 1:12 | Jeshuafreak | 54843 | ||
I sympathize with you about your son. Young people are very impressionable. I believe that if it was lagalized for those 21 and over, like alcohol, it would help to keep it out of the hands of our maturing teens. I will still say that I believe there is nothing wrong with marijuana... it is the person who takes it to extremes. It is our sinfulness that prompts us to seek after the counterfeit. We end up worshipping the creation rather than the Creator, and that is idolatry. Would be having this discussion if it were about whether or not we as Christians can drink wine? -Jeshuafreak |
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42 | question to smoke pot or not | Gen 1:12 | Jeshuafreak | 54845 | ||
Joe- I am agreement with you on the fact that what is said in scripture is truth and there is no budging on that which is plain. Obviously we can't cheat on our wives or rob banks . I am only comparing a small amount of pot to a glass of wine. In my homble opinion I see no difference. Both are harmless in small amounts. This is my opinion and I don't think scripture speaks against this. We are to be soberminded and not drunk with wine. The application is obvious. We are not to be stoned on pot either. Well I can tell you that for some individuals can smoke it or eat without it making them "drunk". Let each man decide whether they can or not. -Jeshuafreak |
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43 | question to smoke pot or not | Gen 1:12 | Jeshuafreak | 54846 | ||
"Go to the root of the sin nature, the rest will be taken care of. " Yes this is very true. We are changed from the inside out. By the washing of the Word. -Jeshuafreak |
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44 | question to smoke pot or not | Gen 1:12 | Jeshuafreak | 54848 | ||
Indeed...I apreciate your comments. I appreciate your objectivity. I am trying to get us to all think about the big picture and the real issue. The issue is not I want to smoke pot so I need a good excuse. I will smoke it whether or not it is illegal. I have access and I don't have to support the black market. The point is and has been from the beginning is ..what is the motivation? Is it beneficial for some to use ? Regardless of what we have been brought up to believe there remains a choice. If it causes a person to stumble it is not good for them. I wouldn't invite a vegetarian over to have shepherd's pie or meatloaf. THIS HAS BEEN AN INTERESTING DEBATE, NONE THE LESS....-jeshuafreak | ||||||
45 | question to smoke pot or not | Gen 1:12 | Jeshuafreak | 54850 | ||
I am trying to...but I keep getting postings ... -Jeshuafreak |
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46 | question to smoke pot or not | Gen 1:12 | Jeshuafreak | 54851 | ||
Tim Moran you wrote "One can claim all kinds of legitimate uses for pot, but the simple fact is that when smoked it is a mind altering and addictive drug. It also is a gateway drug, breaking down the barriers to even harder drugs." My friend I am sorry bout your daughter , I posted earlier about impressionable youth. This is quite unfortunate. I have a sister in law that is hooked on that drug...I am not promoting drugs here. I am attempting to get us to look at this God made plant in a different light. The enmy has perverted all of God's creation in one way or another. Again i am sorry for offending you if I have. -Jeshuafreak |
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47 | question to smoke pot or not | Gen 1:12 | Jeshuafreak | 54852 | ||
I thought I should comment that this debate has been interesting...as I know many confessed Christians who do smoke it, eat it and drink tea from it for various maladies. I wanted to see if this forum would be able to give me any objective council and tellme something I had not already said or discussed with these individuals. So far I have not heard anything new. I believe my point was missed also. thatis fine though. There are more noble discussions than this one. -Jeshuafreak | ||||||
48 | question to smoke pot or not | Gen 1:12 | Jeshuafreak | 54853 | ||
No abortion is murder.... wine is legal is it ok? | ||||||
49 | question to smoke pot or not | Gen 1:12 | Jeshuafreak | 54856 | ||
I am not defending pot use I am trying to discuss it objectively...yes I am a former abuser of many drugs. I wanted to put this discussion out here to see how we viewed it compared with wine. I am only putting down the arguments which I have been engaged in with friends and family who regularly use marijuanna. I would also like to end this discussion as i have exhausted my point many times and still have been misunderstood. My intent is not to glorify pot... my intent was to compare it to wine. -Jeshuafreak | ||||||
50 | question to smoke pot or not | Gen 1:12 | Jeshuafreak | 54890 | ||
Lord God we thank You for Tim Moran's heart for his daughter. We also know that You love her too and You Father know where she is and how she is as well as her baby. Lord I ask that You watch over her and her Child. Put Your hand on her , Lord, and guide her back to her loving family. Lord , they miss her and are worried about her. I pray Lord that You send Your Holy Spirit to comfort my friend Tium and his wife. I pray that You get her cleaned up from the inside out. I pray that she come to know Your Son Jesus Christ. I pray all this in the matchless name of Jesus Amen |
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51 | question to smoke pot or not | Gen 1:12 | Jeshuafreak | 54891 | ||
Yes please send the article to jeshuafreak@yahoo.com | ||||||
52 | question to smoke pot or not | Gen 1:12 | Jeshuafreak | 54892 | ||
As it is here....assuming it was lagalized. | ||||||
53 | question to smoke pot or not | Gen 1:12 | Jeshuafreak | 54893 | ||
A little smoked is not the same as alot....just like drinking. | ||||||
54 | question to smoke pot or not | Gen 1:12 | Jeshuafreak | 54896 | ||
The folowing is a quote from a larger article at: ******http://www.christkirk.com/images/Marijuana.html********** One Toke Over the Line By Douglas Wilson "In some places, the standards have simply collapsed. This is nothing other than old-fashioned backsliding, and it is common in modern evangelical circles. But in the midst of this general ethical slide, another phenomenon has appeared, one which is still comparatively rare. In the Reformed world, some have taken the banner of Christian liberty and have begun to wave it in favor of certain practices that would once have been rejected out of hand. One prime example of this is the idea (now current with some) that smoking marijuana in moderation is part of Christian liberty and no more to be rejected than enjoying a glass of wine at dinner." "Christian Liberty A classic statement of the meaning of Christian liberty is found in Chapter XX of the Westminster Confession of Faith. Because the "Christian liberty defense" of marijuana smoking is coming from what might be called the flotsam and jetsam of the Reformed world, I am beginning with the historic Reformed statement of the doctrine. At first glance, this might seem like an odd place to begin a discussion of smoking dope, but it actually makes a good deal of sense. Christian liberty is a fine-sounding phrase and rolls easily off the tongue. But our fathers in the faith were not as enamored of slogans as we are and have dealt thoroughly with the deeper ramifications of all this. We should consider their words carefully and learn from them when we ask, "What should we mean, exactly, by Christian liberty?" The first paragraph of this chapter in the Confession establishes the doctrinal foundation of all that follows. The liberty which Christ hath purchased for believers under the Gospel consists in their freedom from the guilt of sin, the condemning wrath of God, the curse of the moral law (Tit. 2:14; 1 Thess. 1:10; Gal. 3:13); and, in their being delivered from this present evil world, bondage to Satan, and dominion of sin (Gal. 1:4; Col. 1:13; Acts 26:18; Rom. 6:14); from the evil of afflictions, the sting of death, the victory of the grave, and everlasting damnation (Rom. 8:28; Ps. 119:71; 1 Cor. 15:54-57; Rom. 8:1); as also, in their free access to God (Rom. 5:1-2), and their yielding obedience unto Him, not out of slavish fear, but a child-like love and willing mind (Rom. 8:14-15; 1 John 4:18). All which were common also to believers under the law (Gal. 3:9, 14). But, under the new testament, the liberty of Christians is further enlarged, in their freedom from the yoke of the ceremonial law, to which the Jewish Church was subjected (Gal. 4:1-3, 6-7; 5:1; Acts 15:10-11); and in greater boldness of access to the throne of grace (Heb. 4:14, 16; Heb. 10:19-22), and in fuller communications of the free Spirit of God, than believers under the law did ordinarily partake of (John 7:38-39; 2 Cor. 3:13, 17-18)." |
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55 | question to smoke pot or not | Gen 1:12 | Jeshuafreak | 54973 | ||
You said, "Of course, the problem comes only if the actions are sinful. I understand that this is precisely the question you're asking in regard to smoking pot, and my point is that experience shows time after time that drug abuse interferes with one's relationship with God" I say AMEN!!! http://www.christkirk.com/images/Marijuana.html Did you take time to read this article? Thank you for your comments though unnecessary The talk was a great argument on why Christians should NOT smoke pot. Again thank you for your comments. -Jeshuafreak READ IT THEN MAKE A COMMENT PLEASE *****http://www.christkirk.com/images/Marijuana.html |
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56 | question to smoke pot or not | Gen 1:12 | Jeshuafreak | 54974 | ||
Hmmmm... good point. -Jeshuafreak *** not too sure bout the left wing in politics...they have a different "head" and father |
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57 | what is your point? | Gen 1:12 | Jeshuafreak | 55084 | ||
I have made many breaks from pot.....I am not the personality that can't handle it on his own... I end up becoming legalistic and judgemental on those who still smoke it. They know how I get when I don't smoke it. I don't come around I don't call them....I hardly leave my home. I wrap myself up in a protective security blanket of Christian friends and church. This is in part wrong to do.. Christians have an obligation to the lost, misinformed and immoral brother. We need to be salt and light. thank you for the advice though. |
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58 | what is your point? | Gen 1:12 | Jeshuafreak | 55087 | ||
You said, "No, you can only quit once. Temporarily not using is not the same thing as quitting." AND I AGREE...but what I said was- "I have made many breaks from pot." Sometimes long for 3 years and shorter 1 year.. YOu also said**** "You are correct that you must leave behind your old life, especially your party friends, not because of your harsh judgement of that lifestyle and those you share it with, but rather because you see that you cannot survive their company nor withstand the forces that drive their using." With all due respect you don't know me or my freinds...I have tight friends who have known me for years and would do anything for me...they just happen to be ocasional pot smokers.. I will not judge them for that they will have to stand before the Lord one day , just like you and I , and give an account for the things done in the flesh... Think real hard and search deep in yourself...maybe there is something similair in your life that your flesh likes alot AND MAKE APPLICATION. Don't sit there an piously make your assumptions.. it is not atractive, nor uplifting. I know where I satnd...like David said in Psalm 51 my sin is ever before me.. AND GUESS WHAT? WE all sin. Confess it to the Lord and ask Him to do the changing and He will . No matter what happens He is the one that is causing all things to work together for good in the lives of genuine believers.. those of us who know Jesus personally. Thank again for advice.... You said at the end of your post**** "You must not think that you can help them while you are still in bondage to this. Yes, we are salt and light, but don't deceive yourself into believing you are either until the Lord delivers you from this. Many have fallen because they underestimated how deeply the hook is set." This is very true... my case in point.. one day I will be able to go into a smoke filled room and not be drawn to it or adversaly affected by the temptation.. but I will be able to share the goodness, mercy and grace with them that Jesus has for them. -Jeshuafreak |
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59 | what is your point? | Gen 1:12 | Jeshuafreak | 55112 | ||
"1 Cor 5:11 But actually, I wrote to you not to associate with any so-called brother if he is an immoral person, or covetous, or an idolater, or a reviler, or a drunkard, or a swindler--not even to eat with such a one. " I know this verse well and I do sense your genuine heart felt emotion and love for me in Christ. I feel as Paul at times, "wishing that I were accursed , for the sake of the salvation of my brothers and sisters who still smoke pot." my paraphrase and I couldn't tell you the address either. You know brother, I do know alot about the Word... but honestly I don't have too much practical experience living this Christian life. I know more about living life on its terms instead of on God's terms. I did stay clean and sober for 3 and a half years. I was in N.A. along with my mom. She was a heroin addict (on methadone now). I was in N.A. first to support my mom and started to get to some of them and it was good for me ...to a point. I learned that I could do life without drugs, and booze or anything else. I did not know the Lord then . I prayed to a higher power. God as I created him. See my God was a blender mix of evrything I thought was spiritual. I didn't want to go to church because I was living a sinful lifestyle. Though I didn't know it then. I was learning secular humanism and the human potential movement first hand. I was indoctrinated with all that stuff. I was the same person at the end of the three years. I was just aware of my ability to not have to do dope. I saw many people go in and out of those rooms and the sob stories and year after year it was the same thing...boring. I learned how to be a user of women. I was addicted to sex as well. I was is sick denial there... cause I thought I loved them. ***incidently this is all going to be in the book....the Lord is helping me put it together.*** I was and am now ADD growing up. And very hyperactive. They startedme on Ritalin, which is amphetamines (speed). This would make me mellow because it "over-amped" my system and I became the opposite of what I normally was. Gramma got me off those , thank God. In later years (H.S.) I expiremented with speed a little and didn't like it because it made me quiet....lol..not my nature to be quiet. I believe God made e the way I am and wants me to be completely free of substances. I was conditioned to party when I was growing up. Then from 16 to 19 I was conditioned to live clean and sober and be a self centered individual. From 19 to 24 I condoitioned my self to party constructively. I was a functional drug user. I worked 40 hours a week..sold a little pot to support my habit. I was smoking free weed...then I stopped selling it and bought it. It is very expensive , and I was spending quite a bit of money... I shudder to think how much I have actually spent on getting high... Thank You Lord for Your forgiveness. Thank You Lord for sending Your Son on ahead of me to pave the way on that via dela Rosa.. Thank You Jesus for laying down Your life for mine...that YOu chose me to be found in YOu even before time. I prais e You and honor You and glorfy YOur name forever AMEN******Sometimes I just want to shout JESUS!!! |
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60 | what is your point? | Gen 1:12 | Jeshuafreak | 55114 | ||
Thank you ...and no.. I am pretty sure that I need spport from my wife, my Christian brothers and all of you. Please pray for me to have the strength from God to deny my flesh. There is no temptetion but that which is common to man.. He will not let us face the temptation w/out also giving us a means of escape. There is therefore no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus. I am a blood washed pilgrim and I am a soldier of Christ .. Lord keep me growing into the fullness of the man You want me to be . Thank YOu Lord. Amen | ||||||
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