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41 | is jesus god? | John 1:1 | Greg Martin | 44897 | ||
There is Thomas' confession John 20:28 And Thomas answered and said to Him, "My Lord and my God!" Did Jesus rebuke Him? No. Rather, He replied 29 Jesus said to him, "Thomas, because you have seen Me, you have believed. Blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed." Thomas: "My Lord and My God" Jesus: "You believe" |
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42 | is jesus god? | John 1:1 | Greg Martin | 44898 | ||
Sidebar: Ye olde Pilgrim, Ye! Just reading the name Congregationalist brings me home. I love that Church. I have been led to serve in a very small non-denominational Bible Church in a highly liberal, non-church going city. I don't question God's plan for my life or His leading. I just miss my home church. |
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43 | O.T. Israel salvation? | John 6:49 | Greg Martin | 36557 | ||
You can be backslidden once saved, but you can not ever be lost, or "unsaved" John 10:28 And I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; neither shall anyone snatch them out of My hand. 29 My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of My Father's hand. Not even your own self! No one and no thing has the power to take them from God's hand. It is the power of God Almighty behind your salvation! |
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44 | O.T. Israel salvation? | John 6:49 | Greg Martin | 36564 | ||
Zach, Charis, Regarding your thinking about losing your salvation, This can not be done. Neither of you have the power to overcome God. (John 10:28,29) Now take the lesson of Abraham. Genesis 12:1 Now the LORD had said to Abram: "Get out of your country, From your family And from your father's house, To a land that I will show you. 2 I will make you a great nation; I will bless you And make your name great; And you shall be a blessing. 3 I will bless those who bless you, And I will curse him who curses you; And in you all the families of the earth shall be blessed." So God gave him the promise of land and a large family, and the Savior to come from his seed. But at the first sign of trouble, what did he do? 10 Now there was a famine in the land, and Abram went down to Egypt to dwell there, for the famine was severe in the land. 11And it came to pass, when he was close to entering Egypt, that he said to Sarai his wife, "Indeed I know that you are a woman of beautiful countenance. 12 Therefore it will happen, when the Egyptians see you, that they will say, "This is his wife'; and they will kill me, but they will let you live. 13 Please say you are my sister, that it may be well with me for your sake, and that I may live because of you." He left the land God gave him for a foreign land. He feared for his life even after God told him he would be the father of a large nation. He disobeyed. He lost faith. He bore false witness. Yet God saved him in spite of this because God will work his plan no matter how hard you try to foul it up! You do not have the power to thwart what God has put forward! Shame on both of you for your arrogance! You do not mean to be, I know. But how is it then that you doubt the power of God? Romans 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ, for it is the **power of God to salvation** for everyone who believes, for the Jew first and also for the Greek. |
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45 | O.T. Israel salvation? | John 6:49 | Greg Martin | 36719 | ||
Yes, I know you've argued that you can't lose your salvation, but let me say a couple of things. First, that admonishment is not a condemnation. I think if you heard me think the way it was written you would have heard the tongue in my cheek as I wrote it! But I wrote it to make you think. Second, even though you argued the opposite of Zach (how do you type that cross symbol?), there were words of ambivalence in your posts: "Zach†, I am not a 5,4,3 or 2-point anything, so I have no absolute position to defend. :-) I can see your point about the possibility of losing salvation. " I can't. Not at all. But I apologize, if this was harsh. As I review the posts I see that it was really that one quote that influence me to address my comments to both of you. I was afraid you might be faltering in your direction and wished to prop you up. I guess it wouldn't be the first time I've gotten into trouble on a forum by not explaining myself adequately. I had thought about not addressing the post to you, but I left you on it just in case. So I apologize again, but I hope you took the opportunity of my error to do a self-check. We all need that from time to time. |
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46 | O.T. Israel salvation? | John 6:49 | Greg Martin | 36723 | ||
I can be baptized (which only means submersed) and not have my heart right. Baptism does not precede salvation. It is a result of salvation. If all were saved why would any of them not choose the Lord? Ex 32 especially v 26 and 33. Men can go forward at the alter call, but if it's a "well, just in case..." or "ahh, what the heck..." or "sounds like a good idea..." they are as Cain in their heart and it will not be accepted. Only God knows who was never saved and who was saved but now chooses very unwisely. |
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47 | Was Israel saved, or not? | John 6:49 | Greg Martin | 36731 | ||
Zach, I did not get your point at first but now I see the connection. Not everyone who follows Christ will be saved. Only those who believe with their heart and give it to Him. Thus they may have followed Christ, but most did not obey, and some chose against Him. (Ex 32) Cain gave his offering but it was not acceptable. why? Because it was not with his heart. Many will come saying Lord, Lord but not all will enter heaven (Matt 7:21-24 Luke 13:25) The difference is the heart. |
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48 | O.T. Israel salvation? | John 6:49 | Greg Martin | 37326 | ||
charis, You said that I am saying "We are absolutely saved, BUT if we act like we are unsaved then we were never really saved!" and that this "is a cop-out" I am not saying that at all. A person can be saved and commit sin. As Paul says, when we sin grace abounds. His point is that our sin after salvation proves the great grace that it is. And then of course he adds that we should strive not to sin. If sinners were never saved, no one was ever saved! I am not saying that if someone continues in sin they never were saved. What I am saying is that some that said all the right words and went forward "just in case" or because "I've got nothing to lose (none of my friends are here..)" did not get saved. Their heart was not right and only in total humility and repentance can one be saved. Only God can make this judgement. None of us can ever know this about another person; Only them and God. To say that God can alter His judgement is to say He was wrong at first. This can not possibly be the case. All I can say about someone continuing in sin after being saved is that yes it can happen, but it generally would only happen with tears and repentance after each time. This does not mean they wouldn't continue, but I guarantee God will correct His children, and they will be in torment over it. (This of course ignores mental illness or brain damage, etc). So Once saved, it is permanent and no one can alter it. God did it and He is not ever wrong. Once saved, the Spirit convicts you and continues to witness Christ to you. So sin occurs with considerable anguish and torment. The result is a broken heart in repentance asking forgiveness and a clean heart, to remove the cursed sin. Only God knows whether a person is saved or not. If sin continues without such torment, it is likely that the saving never ocurred because the heart was never broken. The Spirit living in the believer will not allow sin without anguish. And finally, many good people with less sin than some saved, are also not saved because they have not utterly smashed their heart to give to Christ, after all, "they are a good person". |
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49 | O.T. Israel salvation? | John 6:49 | Greg Martin | 37331 | ||
charis, You ask "you seem to be saying that if a person claims salvation, but sins (doesn't have his heart right), then he was never saved to begin with. Is that right? No. The condition of the heart and attitude at that point of salvation is what matters. Our heart is not right several times and we sin several times. There is not a single person fathered by men who has not. So obviously this can not be a condition to prove that you've been saved or no one would have ever been saved. What I am saying is at that point when you ask Christ to come into your heart and rule your life, your heart has to mean it. I can say to my boss, I would love to take that project, and even complete it and excell at it, but not really like it. And when I said I would love to take it, not have meant that, but said it to get on his good side, or because I knew it was right. I can tithe faithfully but grumble as I write that check, 'Boy that sure is a chunk of money. That could pay some bills this month..." That would be Cain's attitude. God does not want this money. He can manufacture his own. He wants your heart. So instead one has to believe "Thank you, Lord, for *allowing* me to give this to You" But if we don't it has no bearing on our salvation, it means that that particular event was not right. Therefore, if this is the case at the moment one prays for salvation, that event is not right. He never takes back His grace. You can not lose salvation. |
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50 | Did the disciples have a choice? | John 15:16 | Greg Martin | 37716 | ||
This is true for us because the Creator of the universe did not command us directly with the spoken Word. These disciples had a very different situation than that which we are in. They were confronted face to face with God speaking a command. If our Creator speaks "Let there be light" and the whole universe obeys and clicks on, how does any other part of His creation do differently? Just as He said "Let there be..." and it was, just as He said "Peace, be still" and it was, He commanded to the disciples "Follow Me." This is not a question or a suggestion. It is a command. He did not say "Would you like to...?" or "If you want to..." and He did not present the option as he did to the rich man, and to others. In the cases I cited, He gave a direct, unambiguous, single option command. Did they then have a choice? BTW, your citing of John 15:16 "You did not choose Me, but I chose you and appointed you that you should go and bear fruit, and that your fruit should remain, that whatever you ask the Father in My name He may give you." seems to be proof opposed to what you are proposing. |
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51 | Did the disciples have a choice? | John 15:16 | Greg Martin | 37749 | ||
In Matt 9:21 Jesus said "If you want to...." In Luke 9:59 We see that Jesus did command "Follow Me" and the man said "yes, but first..." Then v60 Jesus said to him, "Let the dead bury their own dead, but you go and proclaim the kingdom of God." So this could be an example, but it is not a convincing one because we don't know the result. It does, however, bring to mind Jonah. Jonah 1:1 Now the word of the LORD came to Jonah the son of Amittai, saying, 2 "Arise, go to Nineveh, that great city, and cry out against it; for their wickedness has come up before Me." 3 But Jonah arose to flee to Tarshish from the presence of the LORD. He went down to Joppa, and found a ship going to Tarshish; so he paid the fare, and went down into it, to go with them to Tarshish from the presence of the LORD. this would be a better example. |
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52 | Did the disciples have a choice? | John 15:16 | Greg Martin | 37766 | ||
"You said that any time Christ commanded someone directly to follow Him, they had no choice but to obey" Oh, no. I proposed a viewpoint and asked a question. I never once concluded they had no choice. I said the angels and the demons and nature and the universe have no choice. I never said people have no choice. I'm actually on the free will side of this issue. I just don't have an adequate defense of my opinion. And where the Bible is concerned OPINION IS WORTHLESS. But I can't agree with your reasoning on Mt 19:21. The word may be imperative, but the context still is conditional. "ei...thelo ...hupago...kai...deuro...akoloutheo" (IF...you want...go ...AND...come ...follow) So this point is weak, and not convincing proof. The context of the sentence here is "IF YOU WILL THEN GO AND COME FOLLOW" -------------------------------- ei (i) a primary particle of conditionality; conj AV - if 242, whether 20, that 6, not tr 19, misc 3; 290 thelo (thel-o) or ethelo (eth-el-o) in certain tenses otherwise obsolete apparently strengthened from the alternate form of 138; TDNT - 3:44,318; v AV - will/would 159, will/would have 16, desire 13, desirous 3, list 3, to will 2, misc 4; 210 1) to will, have in mind, intend 1a) to be resolved or determined, to purpose 1b) to desire, to wish 1c) to love 1c1) to like to do a thing, be fond of doing 1d) to take delight in, have pleasure hupago (hoop-ag-o) from 5259 and 71; TDNT - 8:504,1227; v AV - go 55, go (ones) way 17, go away 3, get thee 3, depart 2, get thee hence 1; 81 1) to lead under, bring under 2) to withdraw one's self, to go away, depart kai (kahee) apparently, a primary particle, having a copulative and sometimes also a cumulative force; conj AV - and 8182, also 515, even 108, both 43, then 20, so 18, likewise 13, not tr. 354, misc 46, vr and 1; 9280 1) and, also, even, indeed, but deuro (dyoo-ro) of uncertain affinity; adv AV - come 6, come hither 2, hitherto 1) of place, 1a) hither to this place 1b) in urging and calling, here! come! 2) of time, hither to, now |
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53 | Did the disciples have a choice? | John 15:16 | Greg Martin | 37775 | ||
Thanks. I was trying to shorten the sentence without losing anything. The way I did this was not to mean "If you want to then go" but rather "If you want *that* then go and come and follow." And it's still conditional BTW. "Follow Me - If you want to be perfect" You may be satisfied, but I am not. I capitalized the "IF" and the "AND" to show that the sentence began conditional, and the conjuction "AND" is used to join the last clause with the first condition. "IF you want to be perfect then go do this and that AND come follow Me." IF x THEN go and sell and give and come_follow Me Endif |
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54 | Did the disciples have a choice? | John 15:16 | Greg Martin | 37905 | ||
Good point. | ||||||
55 | Do I need to go to church | Hebrews | Greg Martin | 48847 | ||
I certainly hope you read the entirety of my message. The abstract (subject) is misleading and heretical. | ||||||
56 | When will the Temple be rebuilt | Revelation | Greg Martin | 36391 | ||
Interesting note: Did you know the Israeli Supreme court gave the go ahead for a group to lay the cornerstone to the third temple? Answering your question: If you see it being built you know the rapture is near. this kind of makes me think it will not be until the Christians are gone that the Temple will be built. But then again it could be built and last for 100 years. What if the whole world has a white hot revival and the nations repent? Then surely the signs of the times will subside and it would take a few generations to return. |
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57 | God of the living | Rev 6:10 | Greg Martin | 36398 | ||
That's quite all right, Emmaus. As you may have guessed, I have not found my way back to this post until now. I find this Forum fairly difficult to manuver around in. But thanks for your response. |
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