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2361 | Are there any scriptures for the rapture | 2 Pet 3:10 | stjohn | 188225 | ||
Hi Mr Royal Just a thought, ..... But, Jesus doesn't really come to earth in the rapture. please note that he meats us in the air. 1 Thess 4:17 Then we who are alive and remain will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we shall always be with the Lord. This is just a guess, but I think this would qualify as a Scripture that does not relate to his coming in judgment. So, Paul pretty clearly teaches otherwise. What do you think? Could you show me please, where in Matthew, is the rapture? God bless. John |
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2362 | Are there any scriptures for the rapture | 2 Pet 3:10 | stjohn | 188279 | ||
Hi M.Royal Given the message in 1thess 5:8-10, v8 But since we are of the day, let us be sober, having put on the breastplate of faith and love, and as a helmet, the hope of salvation. v9 For God has not destined us for wrath, but for obtaining salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ, v10 who died for us, so that whether we are awake or asleep, we will live together with Him. My friend maybe you haven't taken a good look at what go's on in the Great Tribulation, But the (Wrath of God) is quite frightening, and very devastating, and I don't see much hope, in a post trib view of salvation. God In his Word makes is Very clear that he has NOT appointed His own for the wrath. Unless you can clear up this discrepancy in a post trib rapture, I would have to categorically reject a post trib rapture. and furthermore, I don't see how it carries out what we are told to do in verse 1Thess 5:11 "Therefore encourage one another and build up one another, just as you also are doing." Quite on the contrary, I see a post trib Rapture as very discouraging, and therefore not doing what Scripture tells us to do. I would encourage you, to take another look my friend. Are you in the will of God teaching that he has appointed his children to wrath? We have a very gracious God, and a wonderful saviour in Jesus Christ, Lets look at the entire counsel of the Holly writ before we make a judgment on one part, and especially a part that should hold (hope) for God's Children, and not confusion and dismay. God bless. John |
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2363 | Are there any scriptures for the rapture | 2 Pet 3:10 | stjohn | 188346 | ||
Hi MRoyal, Well, none of the scriptures you have given me indicate a post trib rapture or catching away of the church. This has been a pattern of yours to fail to answer pertinent questions asked by myself and others as well. You keep handing over the same unconvincing Scriptures that not only do not give credence to your view but do not even address the questions that are posed by myself and others. I wish you would give us the respect of answering our questions. Several people now have asked you to answer their questions and you don't bother to answer them. You just keep repeating yourself. That's not a very convincing approach to getting your point across. You have said. "Before we get to the wrath of God, it must be understood that the antichrists/beast must be revealed and reign, and deceive, and also overcome the saints Rev.13:" Agreed. where is the catching away/rapture? you have also said. "it is because of the ac/beasts reign that Gods wrath is promised on those that have worshiped the ac/beast Rev. 14:9-12." Agreed. Where is the rapture/catching away? and where in matthew is a timeline that would indicate a post trib, mid trib or any trib rapture for that matter, I don't see the rapture in there. Where is it? Who are the 24 elders in white raiment that John sees waiting for him after he is caught up in the beginning of chapter 4 in revelation? It looks to me that they represent the Church. Do you have a better answer? If you need more let me know. I'll be glad to help you. I hope this has given you a better understanding of God's order of events God bless. John |
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2364 | Are there any scriptures for the rapture | 2 Pet 3:10 | stjohn | 188391 | ||
Hi MRoyal, The 24 Elders, Represent the Church. And possibly the old testament saints as well, but I would say most definitely, the Church. Look at chapter 3 carefully please, and instead of giving you a list of scripture, I'll put it down for you to read so you don't have to search for it. And first of all, you are correct in saying that they are not those that [came out] of the great tribulation. Notice what Jesus is saying to His Church in Chapter 3, about white garments. [emphases of course is mine] Rev 3:4 'But you have a few people in Sardis who have not soiled their garments; and they will walk with Me [in white], for they are worthy. Rev 3:5 'He who overcomes will thus be clothed [in white garments;] and I will not erase his name from the book of life, and I will confess his name before My Father and before His angels. Rev 3:18 I advise you to buy from Me gold refined by fire so that you may become rich, and [white garments] so that you may clothe yourself, and that the shame of your nakedness will not be revealed; and eye salve to anoint your eyes so that you may see. Now lets look please at chapter 4, and what the elders are wearing. And, we may ask. Where did they get them, and why, are they wearing them? Rev 4:4 Around the throne were twenty-four thrones; and upon the thrones I saw twenty-four elders sitting, [clothed in white garments,] and golden crowns on their heads. Now lets look please at chapter 3 again and see what Our Lord is saying about what is going to happen. Rev 3:3 'So remember what you have received and heard; and keep it, and repent. Therefore if you do not wake up, I will come like a thief, and you will not know at what hour I will come to you. Rev 3:8 'I know your deeds. Behold, I have put before you an open door which no one can shut, because you have a little power, and have kept My word, and have not denied My name. Please take special note of v10 this is very important. [emphases is mine] Rev 3:10 'Because you have kept the word of My perseverance, [I also will keep you from the hour of testing,] that hour which is about to come upon the whole world, to test those who dwell on the earth. Note that He said that he will keep those who keep His word from the hour that is [about to come.] And also note that the [testing] is the first half of the tribulation the wrath comes after the testing, in the second half. Now in v11 please look at what Our Lord is saying about coming quickly, and [the crowns.] Rev 3:11 'I am coming quickly; hold fast what you have, so that no one will take your crown. And now chapter 4. Rev 4:4 Around the throne were twenty-four thrones; and upon the thrones I saw twenty-four elders sitting, clothed in white garments, and [golden crowns on their heads.] The evidence is piling up. Now lets look please at chapter 3 again, and note the open door. Rev 3:8 'I know your deeds. Behold, I have put before you an [open door] which no one can shut, because you have a little power, and have kept My word, and have not denied My name. and chapter 4. Rev 4:1 After these things I looked, and behold, [a door standing open in heaven,] and the first voice which I had heard, like the sound of a trumpet speaking with me, said, "Come up here, and I will show you what must take place after these things." Also note the voice with the sound [like a trumpet.] this is not a trumpet but a voice [like] a trumpet. And it is a voice saying; [come up here!] Sense the voice is not a trumpet but a sound like a trumpet, then it is not a trumpet, and has nothing to do with the last trumpet. And, the [voice] says to John; "I will show you what must take place after these things." Well, after what things? What has Our Lord been talking about in chapter 3? The Church thats what. so chapter 4 opens, with the Church already in Heaven. So, the rapture/catching away, must have taken place sometime near the end of chapter 3. And when John gets there at the beginning of chapter 4 what does he see? Well, It looks to me like the Church, and perhaps including the old testament saints as well. If you need more let me know I'll be glad to help answer your questions, I'm sure this will raise some in other areas. To answer one right now, the saints we find in later chapters are those that are saved because of the witness of the 144000. I hope, this has given you some hope. And cleared up some confusion on when the rapture will take place. God bless. John |
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2365 | earth being burned up | 2 Pet 3:10 | stjohn | 216988 | ||
Hi Scott, Welcome to the forum! Your first inquiry is not found in Scripture. It is unknown where it actually started, but it is not in the Scriptures. If you'd like to read more about this go to: http://www.blueletterbible.org/faq/sayings.cfm The answer your second question can be found in 2 Peter 3:10-12 John |
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2366 | Learning to sit at the feet of Jesus | 2 Pet 3:14 | stjohn | 195126 | ||
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2367 | Sin unto death | 1 John | stjohn | 202290 | ||
Hi Cheri: When we look at 1 John 5:16-7, with an understanding that it refers to spiritual death, there in lies the confusion because John is clearly speaking too and about believers. We know that believers cannot die spiritually, so, John must be talking about physical death. Look what happened to Moses when he sinned and struck the rock; that Rock from which flows the water, that is a picture of Jesus. He died physically didn't he? The Lord took him home. I believe that is what also happened to Ananias and Sophia. So. When John does not recomened praying for them, It stands to reasion, because for the dead, well, their fate is sealed. So why pray? We dont pray for the dead, wether they are saved or not. (my two cents) God bless John |
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2368 | what does with out blemish or wrinkles m | 1 John | stjohn | 227714 | ||
Emphatically, no! That is a doctrine called Moral Perfectionism, and it is heresy. See; 1 John 1:8, 1 Kings 8:46, and John 8:7. Doesn't mean we shouldn't try though! :-) -John "Keep your heart, O believer, much beneath the cross, your conscience in frequent and close contact with the blood, and the slightest touch of sin will make you restless and unhappy until you have confessed, and God has forgiven. This is the secret -- which, alas! few see, or care to know -- of preserving the garments white amid pollution, the mind serene amid turmoil, the heart happy amid sorrow, the life radiant and transparent as the sun, and the spirit, temper, and carriage Christ-loving, and Christ-like. Oh the wonders of the precious blood of Christ! Who can exalt it too highly, adore it too profoundly, love, magnify, and honor it too deeply and exclusively? Will it not constitute the theme of our study, the burden of our song, and the source of our bliss as ages roll on, and never cease to roll? Beloved, the surprise then will be, that here below we should have prized it so little, traveled to it so infrequently, and glorified it so imperfectly, and have regarded it with an affection so fickle and so cold!" --Octavius Winslow |
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2369 | I'm Confused! | 1 John 1:9 | stjohn | 211755 | ||
Rick, I'm very sorry to say I haven't been able to say this more often to you my friend but, I am happy to say it now, though be it ever so bittersweet.... Amen! John |
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2370 | abide | 1 John 2:3 | stjohn | 216903 | ||
Hi Asis, First we need to understand what it means to abide in Christ. --"What does it mean to "abide" in Christ? Answer: Jesus defined "Abiding in Christ" when He likened Himself to a grapevine and believers to its branches: "Abide in Me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, unless it abides in the vine, so neither can you, unless you abide in Me" (John 15:4). That picture illustrates the vital union existing between Christians and Jesus Christ. The word "abide" basically means "to remain." Every Christian remains inseparably linked to Christ in all areas of life. We depend on Him for grace and power to obey. We look obediently to His Word for instruction on how to live. We offer Him our deepest adoration and praise and we submit ourselves to His authority over our lives. In short, Christians gratefully know Jesus Christ is the source and sustainer of their lives. Abiding in Christ evidences genuine salvation. The Apostle John alluded to that when he referred to defected professors who "went out from us, but they were not really of us; for if they had been of us, they would have remained with us; but they went out, in order that it might be shown that they all are not of us" (1 John 2:19). People with genuine faith will remain--they won't defect; they won't deny Christ or abandon His truth. Jesus reiterated the importance of abiding as a sign of real faith when He said, "If you abide in My Word, then you are truly disciples of Mine" (John 8:31)."-- John Macarthur, http://www.gty.org/Resources/Questions/QA161 Jesus fulfilled not only the moral law but also the ceremonial law. As Christians we are commanded to obey the moral law as this is part of God's unchanging character, but the ceremonial law was part of the Old Covenant, that has been fulfilled and done away with by the work of Christ. Because we are now under the New Covenant we are no longer under obligation to keep the Old Covenant, particularly the sign of the Old Covenant. The writer to the Hebrews remarked, "When He said, ‘A new covenant,’ He has made the first obsolete. But whatever is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to disappear" (Heb. 8:13). The Apostle Paul rebuked the Galatians for attempting to add the observance of days to the sufficiency of Christ’s work for salvation or sanctification (Gal. 4:9-11). This shows us that a new order had been erected with the resurrection of Christ (Jn. 20:1, 19). Moreover, note that there was no ceremonial law pryer to when it was given specifically to the nation Israel. Many believers in the coming Christ for redemption of sin and salvation were not required to obey such laws because they simply did not exist. They were justified as we are justified by faith and faith alone, and not by works, especially works of the ceremonial law, e.g. diet restrictions, feast days, etc. The Apostle Paul soundly rebuked the Galatians for there desire to go back to the Old Covenant system, and also said to the Corinthians to: "Be imitators of me, just as I also am of Christ." 1 Cor 11:1, and Paul sure didn't follow the Old Covenant system of ceremonial law. I pray that helped John |
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2371 | abide | 1 John 2:3 | stjohn | 216915 | ||
Hi Jeff, Pastor Tim has answered very well, I have a suggestion though, that I really hope you'll take into advice. Please read from the following websites. I highly recommend them. http://www.obcl.edu/index.php/meditations/105-from-under-law-to-under-grace-part-ii- http://godstenlaws.com/law-grace/new-covenant.html John |
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2372 | abide | 1 John 2:3 | stjohn | 216916 | ||
Dear grafted in, Please read the following. http://godstenlaws.com/law-grace/new-covenant.html http://www.obcl.edu/index.php/meditations/105-from-under-law-to-under-grace-part-ii- it's a short read, and I highly recommend it. :-) One very important note to remember is, the purpose of the law was not as an instruction book on how to live as Christians. But as a teacher to expose to us our sinful nature. Gal 3:24 John |
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2373 | abide | 1 John 2:3 | stjohn | 217094 | ||
Hi MJH I don't recall anyone saying they 'felt' judged. Other then perhaps those who were being directed to Scripture that shows that they were judging by implication. They seemed to feel like they were being judged, and also seemed to be a little offended. So the antipodal of what you are saying is closer to actually being true. Sorry, MJH, but you'll have to show me where that was said, or where it was said that someone was offended. Because I don't recall seeing that in anyones post. Other then, of course the opposite party. I for one am certainly not at all offended. Disappointed, unhappy, sorrowful, tired, sometimes exasperated? Yes. But feeling judged, or offended. No. Not. God bless John p.s. by the way, you've probably already figured out that this particular thread is still on the front page. :-) |
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2374 | abide | 1 John 2:3 | stjohn | 217105 | ||
Hi MJH, You know, MJH, one thing I cant figure out, is why you guys can't see the difference between just doing something because you want to, and compelling others to do it too, by telling them it is following God's command by doing so. After all, that's where Paul drew the line, and opposed Peter to his face. (Gal. 2:11-21) It was when Peter and others compelled Barnabas to follow them in their hypocrisy where Paul was compelled to rebuke him. And too, that is why he (Paul) also writes in (Col. 2:16-17) "Therefore no one is to act as your judge in regard to food or drink or in respect to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath day-- things which are a mere shadow of what is to come; but the substance belongs to Christ." Another thing is, you say we are taking: "a theological perspective and then fit the Texts to meet that understanding." Yes, perhaps, while that may be true to some extent, you are going to extra-biblical and historical books to justify your own interpretation. That seems not a little bit more of a stretch, and does not follow sola Scriptura. You are going 'outside' of the Bible, to Justify your own theological perspective. I have always found, if you look for something hard enough, you can usually find, something, that at least looks like it. :-) John |
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2375 | abide | 1 John 2:3 | stjohn | 217121 | ||
MJH, At least you understand you are in the minority. Just a couple of questions I have that no one from your camp has even begun to answer other then to say you cant build a doctrine on one verse. Just what does Paul mean by Peter's hypocrisy? And what does he mean by saying not to judge in regard to food or new moons or sabbath days? Can you please explain those two small things to me? It should be pretty easy. It sure is from our perspective. |
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2376 | abide | 1 John 2:3 | stjohn | 217126 | ||
Hi grafted in, The only thing wrong with is that the Colossians where not attempting to supplant the law of Moses with laws of pagan religions, Paul makes it clear in this chapter that he is referring to those of the circumcision of which could only mean the Jewish believers that were attempting to bring them back under the ceremonial law. There were no pagan man made religions that were keeping the sabbath, requiring circumcision, nor did they have decries that would forbid the Colossians from partaking in food or drink. Which Paul refers to in verse 20-21 "If you have died with Christ to the elementary principles of the world, why, as if you were living in the world, do you submit yourself to decrees, such as,"Do not handle, do not taste, do not touch!" I rather like Matthew Henry's summation of this chapter: "True wisdom is, to keep close to the appointments of the gospel; in entire subjection to Christ, who is the only Head of his church. Self-imposed sufferings and fastings, might have a show of uncommon spirituality and willingness for suffering, but this was not "in any honour" to God. The whole tended, in a wrong manner, to satisfy the carnal mind, by gratifying self-will, self-wisdom, self-righteousness, and contempt of others. The things being such as carry not with them so much as the show of wisdom; or so faint a show that they do the soul no good, and provide not for the satisfying of the flesh. What the Lord has left indifferent, let us regard as such, and leave others to the like freedom; and remembering the passing nature of earthly things, let us seek to glorify God in the use of them." Matthew Henry John |
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2377 | abide | 1 John 2:3 | stjohn | 217161 | ||
So, you are saying that, circumcision, feast days, sabbath days and dietary restrictions, are 'tagged on' by man? Because thats what Paul is talking about. I don't know what you think the law was given for, but according to Scripture, the law was given as a tutor, a teacher, to show the Israelites, and us, that we are sinners; because no one ever kept the whole law, except our Lord Jesus Christ; and according to Scripture, any part of the law that was, or is not kept, means you are guilty of breaking the whole thing. If you're going to keep it, you cant pick and chose; every line, every dot, every title, every thread and every stitch; nothing must be overlooked. How you doin with that? You'll have to show in Scripture (sola Scriptura) where it says that those commandments and doctrines of men spoken about by Paul, are the extra oral portions of the law. | ||||||
2378 | abide | 1 John 2:3 | stjohn | 217240 | ||
Hi MJH, Since most orthodox Christians believe the law concerning keeping of the Sabbath day and feast days and dietary restrictions, has been done away with and, nailed to the Cross, just like circumcision; option 4) all of the above. If you want to keep doing these things, thats fine, just don't try to tell others they should do it too. Because of course that would by implication be judging them. Thanks for your time. John |
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2379 | abide | 1 John 2:3 | stjohn | 217241 | ||
Hi MJH, Yes, my mistake, you're correct. I see that Doc has answered for me. (Thanks Doc) The only thing I would add to his post is to read Acts 15, through to verse 29. John |
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2380 | abide | 1 John 2:3 | stjohn | 217242 | ||
Hi MJH, Concerning Acts 10. Can you tell me why God, would tell Petter to, "kill and eat" if He didn't mean, "kill and eat"? Wouldn't you think God could or would say what He means, without being so ambiguous? If He only intended to let Petter know He was just talking about the Gentiles being made clean, then He is more then capable of doing so. Don't you think? I mean, if it takes as much explaining as those of your persuasion go through; and I really don't mean to be offensive, but, well, MJH, to be honest, it seems a little silly, really. I think if thats all that God intended to say, He would have been much more clear about it, instead of causing so much confusion. John |
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