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21 | meaning of 1Cor.1:26-31 | 1 Cor 1:26 | xmikx | 136763 | ||
These are great verses of scripture. Paul is showing how God can use what the world thinks is weak or stupid or worthless and do great and mighty things!! When God uses what the world thinks is not worth anything, there is only one reason for the success... and that is so that ALL the glory goes to God where it deserves to go!!! | ||||||
22 | 2 corn. 4:4 the god of this world hath b | 2 Cor 4:1 | xmikx | 135925 | ||
I have a New Living Traslation bible and this is the verse you used: 4Satan, the god of this evil world, has blinded the minds of those who don't believe, so they are unable to see the glorious light of the Good News that is shining upon them. They don't understand the message we preach about the glory of Christ, who is the exact likeness of God. The god of this world is referring to Satan and he has blinded the minds of those who don't believe in Jesus as their personal savior. I hope this helps. |
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23 | 2 corn. 4:4 the god of this world hath b | 2 Cor 4:1 | xmikx | 135939 | ||
Hey Tim. I agree with you on the New Living Translation bible. I know it is not a word for word translation only a phrase for phrase translation. But I do not feel they changed the meaning of the text. This verse is speaking of Satan as being the one who has blinded the eyes of the unbelieving so that the unbelieving will not see the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ who is the image of God. You say they potentially change the meaning of the text, but that is not the case of 2 Cor 4:4. You also state the Living Bible 'adds' it anyway. The way you wrote your post is as if the Living Bible is the only translation/version that has 'added' things. If you will search any verse on this website, it lists both the NASB and the Amplified translations. They are not exact matches for the exact same verse. The Amplified translation has many 'added' words/phrases that do not appear in the NASB or any other version of the Bible. I am not trying to attack you or any other version or translation of the Bible, I am merely stating my opinion as you did about the Living Bible translation. Mike |
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24 | 2 Cor 4:4 | 2 Cor 4:4 | xmikx | 135940 | ||
Every verse below is from NASB. 2 Corinthians 4 4 in whose case (1) the god of (2) this world has (3) blinded the minds of the unbelieving so that they might not see the (4) light of the gospel of the (5) glory of Christ, who is the (6) image of God. Reference point (1) is John 12:31 which is the following: John 12 31 "(1) Now judgment is upon this world; now (2) the ruler of this world will be cast out. John 12:31 lists 1 John 5:19 as a cross reference which is the following: 1 John 5 19 (1) We know that (2) we are of God, and that (3) the whole world lies in the power of the evil one. 1 John 5:19 lists John 17:15 as a cross reference which is the following and this is Jesus speaking: 15 "I do not ask You to take them out of the world, but to keep them from (39) the evil one. Now I ask, who is referred to in each of these verses as being opposed to what God wants for His children? The only answer is Satan. Yes, I know that Satan is not mentioned in any of the above verses, but it is implied that is who each of the verses is referring to. In no way am I trying to compare Jesus and Satan, but 2 Cor 4:4 uses god and not God. There is a huge difference between little g god and BIG G GOD. There are numerous times in the Bible where Jesus is referred to many different words/titles other than Jesus Christ. He is referred to as the Way, the Truth, the Light, the Savior, Lord and many others. Each time we know the author is referring to our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. When the author uses 'the god of this world' with the little g, he is referring to Satan and is using the word god, not calling him God. The end of the verse is as follows: the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God. Here the author uses big G which is intended for the God of the universe. The God that created everything in six days. The God that sent his only son to die on a cross for mine and your sins. The God of love. Have a wonderful day and remember that God loves you more than you can comprehend. Mike |
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25 | 2 Cor 4:4 | 2 Cor 4:4 | xmikx | 136155 | ||
Excellent post pcdarcan. You make the same point as I, but in a much more convincing manner. It is very clear to me that Paul is referring to Satan. You have to read the entire verse to really see how 'the god of this world' is not referring to God. Why would God want to blind the eyes of the unbelievers from the glory of his Son? Please go to the following link for a very detailed explanation of this verse using Robertson's Word Pictures of the New Testament. It will not let me paste the passage here as it contains words or letters (i don't know which) in what I assume is Greek. This is a very good explanation of 2 Cor 4:4. http://bible.crosswalk.com/Commentaries/RobertsonsWordPictures/ and then just click on the book, chapter and verse to see Robertson's commentary. |
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26 | 2 Cor 4:4 | 2 Cor 4:4 | xmikx | 136745 | ||
This is a very interesting point! It does make one ponder this idea. I use www.biblegateway.com as a resource for reading while at work. This website allows the user to choose between 19 different translations of the Bible. Now, I have not looked at each and every one of them, but the ones that I have used for reading/studying have used both god and God. Tim, I now your point about Greek not using capitalization, but each of the translations I have used from biblegateway use both little g god and BIG G God. Tim, how are you able to understand what Paul means each time he uses the word God or god? If Greek has no capitalization, then how do you know the translation you use is correct when it reads: god of this world? All of the 19 translations listed at biblegateway.com use either god of this world or even say Satan or the devil. Not one of them uses God (big G). At the end of this verse, Paul says "who is the image of God." Now, every translation I have ever seen uses big G God at the end of this verse and little g god at the beginning of this verse. Tim, how can you not see the difference? These translations were made by people much smarter than I. They have done the research and study to interpret the old ancient texts that are available to the scholars doing the translation. Some translations/versions (New Living, New Life, Wycliffe) use either Satan or the devil in this verse to further clarify who Paul is referring to in 2 Cor 4:4. You may or may not agree with or even like these three versions of the Bible. That is your choice, but I am certain that Paul is referring to Satan when he says, the god of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelievers so that they cannont see the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God. I have seen on this topic the use of how Moses would veil his face as a reference to how God would blind or veil the minds of the unbelieving. Please read the following which is referenced in 2 Cor 3:13. This is Ex 34:33-35. Exodus 34 33 When Moses had finished speaking with them, (1) he put a veil over his face. 34 But whenever Moses went in before the LORD to speak with Him, (2) he would take off the veil until he came out; and whenever he came out and spoke to the sons of Israel what he had been commanded, 35 (3) the sons of Israel would see the face of Moses, that the skin of Moses' face shone. So Moses would replace the veil over his face until he went in to speak with Him. This tells how Moses' face would shine because he had just spoken to God. He would put a veil over his face because Aaron and the sons of Israel were afraid to come near him. Moses then called to them and they came forward and Moses told them what the LORD had commanded them to do. Moses would speak to the LORD, deliver the message from the LORD (with his face shining to show he was under the LORD's influence if you will) and then put the veil over his face after delivering the message. The veil was to "hide" the fading glory that was on Moses' face. See this mentioned in 2 Cor 3:13. As you all know, Paul wrote this as a letter to the church at Corinth. If you read this as one should read a letter (from the beginning) Paul first mentions Satan in 2 Cor 2:11 and he uses the word Satan for this reference. Please read 2 Cor 4:3 and then verse 4. 3 And even if our (7) gospel is (8) veiled, it is veiled to (9) those who are perishing, 4 in whose case (10) the god of (11) this world has (12) blinded the minds of the unbelieving so that they might not see the (13) light of the gospel of the (14) glory of Christ, who is the (15) image of God. (9) is 1 Cor 1:18 and says how the word of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved, it is the power of God. It is so clear who Paul is referring to in 2 Cor 4:4. He is referring to Satan as the god of this world and not God as the god of this world. |
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27 | 2 Cor 4:4 | 2 Cor 4:4 | xmikx | 136883 | ||
Tim, It is so funny to me how your whole basis for "discussing" this verse is the use of god vs. God. Yet, when you (who knows Greek) type, you use both little g and BIG G. Why the difference? Is it to clarify your point as to who you are referring to in your post? This is 1 John 4:14 (NIV) 1 John 4 14And we have seen and testify that the Father has sent his Son to be the Savior of the world. Who is the Father? and why is it capitalized? who is the Son? and why is it capitalized? who is the Savior? and why is it capitalized? In case you are not familiar or can not find your Greek text to interpret these, I will tell you who each is... the Father is God. the Son is Jesus Christ. the Savior is also Jesus Crhist. Your last post contained the following: Scripture also tells us that God loves the world, that God created the world, that God sent His Son to save the world. Is He not also the God of this world that He created, loves, and saves? :-) Scripture does not support the answer you give to the question... "Is He not also the God of this world that He created, loves, and saves?" What book and verse is that from? Please provide scriptural evidence to support this claim. Mike |
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28 | 2 Cor 4:4 | 2 Cor 4:4 | xmikx | 136934 | ||
Colin, I am not sure what you mean? I completely agree with the Holt Trinity of God the Father, God the Son and God the Spirit. He is three different entities all in the great I AM. My main point to Tim was why did he differentiate between god and God when that is his main position against the use of 'god of this world' not referring to Satan. Even the NASB, which most consider the most accurate translation, uses little g god at the beginning of the verse and BIG G God at the end of the verse when referring to God the Father. I only used 1 John 4:14 as an example where other names are used for God and Jesus. God is referred to as the Father and Jesus is referred to as his Son and the Savior. |
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29 | 2 Cor 4:4 | 2 Cor 4:4 | xmikx | 136936 | ||
Colin, This is James2:19 (NIV) 19You believe that there is one God. Good! Even the demons believe that–and shudder. This verse states only that the demons believe there is a God and "tremble in terror (NLT). It does not say that God is over the demons only that the demons believe there is a God. Mike |
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30 | 2 Cor 4:4 | 2 Cor 4:4 | xmikx | 136940 | ||
Tim, Where did you get that from? Did you even read the verse of scripture? You yourself emailed me and said that when someone says the scripture says something that is not there you would point it out. I did the same thing. James 2:19 just does not say that God is over the demons. It says that even the demons believe there is a God and tremble in terror. Mike |
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31 | 2 Cor 4:4 | 2 Cor 4:4 | xmikx | 136952 | ||
I would not say hostility is the right word, agitated might be a better choice. You are no doubt knowledgeable about the Bible. But, from reading your posts, they come across to me as you are better than someone else when their view/post/belief is different than what you believe. This agitates me. This is an open forum. It is open to any and all who want to post, ask questions, give their view on scripture or whatever as long as they follow the guidlines that had to be agreed upon before creating a user name for this website. First off, I have never asked you to explain anything about 'ho theos' as I had never heard that word(s) before until you first used them in your post since I do not know Greek. 1) capitalization, I get your point. More sarcasim from you on the paragrahs, tabs and what not... 1 John 4:14 was used by me to illustrate an example of God and Jesus Christ being referred to by something other than the words God and Jesus Christ. The comment about not having your Greek handy to translate was a little sarcasim from me, my bad!!! But when reading your posts, you like to add in Greek it says _______ 'fill in the blank'. Well, I don't read, speak or understand Greek. But, I know that I do not have to know any Greek to understand the word of God. the Scriptural references you give do not state that God is the God of this world. If you will go back and read your post from which I took this quote, you will notice you were making a point of how since God created the world, God loves the world and God wants to save the world, none of those verses say, "is He not also the God of this world that He created, loves, and saves?" As for you comment about my email to you. I do not have a saved copy of this email, but if I remember correctly, I think I asked WHY would God blind anyone. You provided scripture that answered that question. I do not hold anything personally against you. I just do not agree with how your posts read to me. Your posts seem to portray yourself as better than others when trying to "defend" your point of view. Have a wonderful day fellow heir... Mike |
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32 | 2 Cor 4:4 | 2 Cor 4:4 | xmikx | 136966 | ||
Please read James 2:14-20 and not only verse 19. These verses are centering around how a person with real faith (in God) will prove this by his good deeds or actions. It does NOT say that you must do this, it merely states that faith without good deeds is no faith at all-- that kind of faith is dead and useless. verse 19) Do you think it's enough to believe there is one God?... (notice it says there IS one God)... Well, even the demons believe this , and they tremble in terror! My opinion: the demons shudder because they do believe there is one God and realize how powerful He really is. Once again, this is my opinion of these verses. |
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33 | 2 Cor 4:4 | 2 Cor 4:4 | xmikx | 136967 | ||
To me, there is a big difference between Satan blinding the minds of the unbelievers so they can't see the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God. and saying God blinds the minds of the unbelievers so they can't see the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God. |
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34 | 2 Cor 4:4 | 2 Cor 4:4 | xmikx | 136977 | ||
Kalos, This taken directly from my post: Well, I don't read, speak or understand Greek. But, I know that I do not have to know any Greek to understand the word of God. Tim's point has been based on his "understanding" of the Greek language and the reference of 'ho theos' and how many times it has been used and how many times it has meant Jehovah God and how many times it has not meant Jehovah God. Well, I am saying this very clearly, I do not read, speak, or understand (if you were speaking Greek to me, I would not be able to understand you or even recognize you speaking Greek) and I know that I do not have to know any Greek to be able to realize the meaning of a passage of Scripture in the word of God. I have not read anywhere nor ever heard from anyone that I or anyone else for that matter had to know Greek to understand what God's word means. Mike |
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35 | 2 Cor 4:4 | 2 Cor 4:4 | xmikx | 136986 | ||
Tim, 1) I respect the fact that you are stating your opinion/position as have I. I never mentioned you insulting me at any time. I have not felt insulted by you, only that since my opinion/position on 2 Cor 4:4 is different than yours that you try to make your point more "important" by using your knowledge of Greek to validate or carry more weight than those of us who do not or have not learned Greek. 2) You could have simply stated what you stated in this post instead of stating that you use paragrahs, tabs and what not. 3) I have never seen anywhere in the Bible where it says that I have to know Greek or Hebrew to be able to understand what God's word means. I use www.biblegateway.com as my resource here at work and this website has 19 different translations available. I usually start off with NIV, if I am uncertain, I will try others that might list references for my particular verse and see if these help. Eventually I am able to comprehend the meaning without knowing anything about the Greek text. The translation team interpreted the Greek and Hebrew text. That is why I use different translations of the Bible to see how these teams interpret the ancient text into the English language. I might be "at their mercy" as you stated, but I am not limited to one particular translation. This is the information age and the internet contains many, many different translations of the Bible. 4) I have read your posts to pcdarcan. But in this, your most recent post about 2 Cor 4:4, you typed, 4) 'God of this world'! ... You chose to capitalize god in god of this world. The text does not support your use of BIG G God here. Paul wrote, 'the god of this world'. I have looked at all 19 translations on biblegateway.com and none, not even one of them uses BIG G God for the 'god of this world' BUT EVERYONE OF THEM USESE BIG G GOD for 'who is the image of God.' So, based on your knowledge of Greek and limited retained knowledge of Hebrew, you must be smarter or more intelligent or have a 'better' understanding of the ancient text than ANY of the translation teams of the 19 translations listed on www.biblegateway.com Mike |
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36 | 2 Cor 4:4 | 2 Cor 4:4 | xmikx | 136995 | ||
Tim, Thank you for the information about Strong's concordance. I had never used one before. I went to google and searched and the first one that came up led me to blueletterbible.org I searched using Strong's number 2316 and it indeed is God. I then searched Strong's number 3588 which is the defintie article 'ho' you have mentioned before. 2 Cor 4:4 is not listed on the results page for Strong's number 3588, but is listed on the results page for Strong's number 2316. You might want to check this out. This is from one of your previous posts about this verse: In the process of my interpretation, I have relied on several pieces of evidence. 1) There is no verse in Scripture where Satan is explicitly called a god. 2) The definite article is used in 2 Cor. 4:4. It is a reference to 'ho theos', not just a 'theos'. 3) Scripture is quite clear that while some things are called gods, there are in fact no other gods. 4) God is the only one spoken of as 'blinding' people in Scripture. Using this data, I interpret 2 Cor. 4:4 to be a reference to the only true God You state that the definite article is used in 2 Cor 4:4. But when I used the verse retrieval tool on blueletterbible.org, it uses Strong's number 2316 for god and not the definite article of 'ho theos' Strong's number 3588. Also, have you read Romans 12:2? It is as follows from (NASB): Romans 12 2 And do not (1) be conformed to (2) this world, but be transformed by the (3) renewing of your mind, so that you may (4) prove what the will of God is, that which is good and acceptable and perfect. This verse lists the following as the numerical reference for #2 which is 'this world': Matt 13:22; Gal 1:4; 1 John 2:15 Please read these three verses, then please post how YOU can still think Jehovah God is doing the blinding mentioned in 2 Cor 4:4. All three of these verses are very good, but please pay special attention to 1 John 2:15 of NASB. Mike |
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37 | 2 Cor 4:4 | 2 Cor 4:4 | xmikx | 137007 | ||
Tim, 1, 2, and 3 I am cool with. No problem with anything. 4) By my asking if you are smarter or more intelligent or have a 'better' understanding of the ancient text I meant since you interpret 2 Cor 4:4 to mean Jehovah God is doing the blinding and NOT one of the 19 translations listed on biblegateway.com you must have some way of interpreting this that none of the translation teams used on the 19 translations were able to figure out. I commented on how I was not able to find 'ho theos' in the Strong's Concordance, as you claimed, and you made no comment. I asked if you had ever read Romans 12:2. Then listed the three references provided in the NASB translation for 'the world' which are Matt 13:22; Gal 1:4; 1 John 2:15. Then I asked you to read these three verses, if you go to www.biblegateway.com and look up Romans 12:2 using the NASB, you will then be able to follow the link to these three and be able to view/read them all on one page, and then asked you to please post how after reading these verses, you could still have the same view of who was doing the blinding in 2 Cor 4:4. No, I do not think you should go with what someone else says. You have every right to do any and all research that you are capable of doing. We all just need to be careful with the information obtained during the research, as it might not always be correct. Mike |
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38 | 2 Cor 4:4 | 2 Cor 4:4 | xmikx | 137020 | ||
I had a very well thought out response to your post Hank, but when I hit the preview follow-up button, it said I had a bad character or something. When I hit the back button, everything I had typed was gone. I am not going to even attempt to 'do it again' as it would not be the same. Let me just say that I have nothing personally against Tim or any other user on this forum. I have no problem identifying or acknowledging my imperfections as they are many. I did not say Tim is imperfect (even though all have fallen short of the glory of God Rom 3:23) I was only stating how I felt he was towards my posts. Mike |
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39 | 2 Cor 4:4 | 2 Cor 4:4 | xmikx | 137038 | ||
Mark, There have been times I have done this trying to go back and forth between three or four different posts to make sure my facts are straight. This time I didn't. Oh well, thanks for the info. Mike |
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40 | 2 Cor 4:4 | 2 Cor 4:4 | xmikx | 137109 | ||
Kalos, I hear you my friend and I agree with you. Thank you for clarifying your point. Mike |
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