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21 | I just started reading the Bible and.... | Deut 24:1 | petedavis6263 | 211246 | ||
Hello WOS, Thanks for your kind words. I guess I made a double posting here. I'm so sorry. Pete |
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22 | I just started reading the Bible and.... | Deut 24:1 | petedavis6263 | 211258 | ||
Dear Ovadyah, Sidney proclaimed that there was absolutely no other reason whatsoever for allowing a divorce except for sexual immorality. You see, I don't believe there's anyone who agrees with that. There are many legitimate reasons people divorce. Domestic violence, forced marriages, incarceration and much of what we see in our churches today, when one partner becomes saved and the other bolts. In Matt 5:32, Jesus was on the mountain speaking to his disciples when he declared that except for sexual immorality, divorcees who remarry commit adultery. In Matt 19:9, Jesus repeats basically the same teaching to the Pharisees as what he said to his disciples. How don't see any change in meanings to support your "CONTEXT" argument. Peace to you, Pete |
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23 | I just started reading the Bible and.... | Deut 24:1 | petedavis6263 | 211259 | ||
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24 | I just started reading the Bible and.... | Deut 24:1 | petedavis6263 | 211261 | ||
Dear Keliy, If what you say is true "the New Testament contains the Old Testament, explained," then I shall find my answers soon enough. Thanks. Pete |
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25 | I just started reading the Bible and.... | Deut 24:1 | petedavis6263 | 211268 | ||
Dear Sidney, I am trying to answer everyone's helpful posts, but I am falling behind. I believe you and I are engaged in what Hank and Brad coined, "circular banter." I'll just say one more time then I'll quit. As I have read Matt 5:32 and 19:9, the meaning I get is that Jesus proclaims that there is no other reason for divorce other than sexuality immorality. Anyone who divorces and remarries for any other reason, commits adultery. Why wouldn't Jesus include in the exemptions list along with sexual immorality, domestic violence, forced marriages, incarceration, and couples unequally yoked where one of them leaves? Are you saying these texts apply only to the Pharisees and without any other possibilities, the only legitimate reason for getting a divorce was sexuality immorality and nothing else? Okay, brother Sidney, you have the last word. Thank you so very much for all your help. Pete |
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26 | Reading the Bible with more Questions | 2 Tim 1:1 | petedavis6263 | 211229 | ||
Dear Cheri, Hank, Brad, WOS, and others, This is a question for you since you were some of the ones who strongly advised me to read the New Testament first before trying to understand the Old Testament. Well, after stopping at the end of Deuteronomy, I went to Matthew which you recommended as a great start. Okay, now that I am finished reading Matthew I want to ask you some questions before continuing. My very first concern is with Matthew 5:17-18, where Jesus basically says he did not come to destroy the law or the prophets but to fulfill, for until heaven and earth pass away not one jot or tittle shall pass from the law until all is fulfilled. An obvious and logical assumption to make is that since heaven and earth have not passed and all has not been fulfilled yet, every jot and tittle of the law are still valid. Not any part of the law has been deleted. It's as clear as a bright sunny day. Yet many of God's commands are no longer viewed as relevent. God's commands of death to a homosexual, death to a man who commits adultery, death to a man who breaks the sabbath and death to man who rapes should all be still be valid, shouldn't they? We still uphold the ban on homosexuality, the sin of adultery and the evil of rape, but we disregard God's command of death to those sinners. Confusing? To me it is very confusing. One of the recent posts on this forum mentioned Psalm 119, so I read that chapter, all 176 verses. In no uncertain terms God declares all of His words, commandments, precepts, statutes, judgments, testimonies and laws are perfect, righteous, faithful, truthful, good and pure and they endure forever to all generations. How much clearer must it get that no part of God's law could ever be abolished? They should be as God declares, perfect, and as Jesus declares, as eternal as heaven and earth. Why with such overwhelming evidence of God's eternal nature, have we gone against Him? Here's another concern of mine found in Matthew 5:31-32, Jesus proclaims a divorcee who remarries commits adultery. The question here is how in the world will the countless number of divorced couples, including myself, who have been remarried make it to heaven while continuing to live in the sin of adultery? My third passage in question is concerning Matthew 5:38-48. Jesus said ignore the eye for eye, tooth for tooth code, instead, resist no evil, turn the other cheek, if a man sues you, give him more, go the extra mile, love your enemies, bless them, do good to them and pray for them that curse, hate, persecute and despitefully use you and you will be perfect as your Father in heaven. I wonder what Christian in the world today practices what Jesus is saying here or even believes it. Even people on this forum, as Written has warned me, will probably view me as the evil one, the enemy who promotes consumption of the "devil's drink." I wonder if they will obey Jesus' council to turn the other cheek and love the enemy? Or will they cast me out banning me forever from this forum? Believe me, I am not the enemy. I love God with all my heart and I just want to do what He commands me to do. The truth is guys, God has given me a mind to seek the answers. Many of these passages were never told to me by my pastor and I never pursued reading the entire bible until now. I don't believe for a second that I am misreading, misquoting, misinterpreting or inventing ideas. You may say that I am taking things out of context, but I ask you what are the contexts of "love your enemies," "adultery is sin," and "everything that God does is perfect and does not change?" Why should the contexts be anything other than what they say? Unless of course it is uncomfortable to face the truth, then a spin is put on the passage and away we all go. As I read word for word, I can't help think that if God meant for it to mean something else He would have said it differently, a far easier way, after all, He is God. Please, members of this forum, as Jesus has said, if you we have faith as little as a mustard seed we can move mountains, nothing will be impossible(Matt 17:20). Certainly, our faith should be strong enough to help us to find the answers. God bless you all, Pete |
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27 | Reading the Bible with more Questions | 2 Tim 1:1 | petedavis6263 | 211248 | ||
Val Thanks for the advice. Pete |
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28 | Kill your brother and drink strong drink | James 2:10 | petedavis6263 | 211019 | ||
Hello to all, I am new to bible study. I am reading the bible from the beginning and now I have a question as I am going through Deuteronomy, chapters 10-14. Can anybody help? Here is the scenario: Just imagine for a minute, that you are an Israelite living during the time of Deuteronomy. You really love God and his messenger, Moses. Not long after the Ten Commandments (Deut 10) were given, Moses continued to issue God's statutes and laws along with severe warnings against disobedience. You are concerned as anyone would be for fear of making a mistake. However, God promises many blessings (Deut 11), all you need to do is earnestly obey His commandments, judgments and statutes. God warns you (Deut 12:32), "Whatever I command you, be careful to observe it; you shall not add to it nor take away from it." God is not messing around. He even commands you to kill your brother or any other family member if they try to entice you away from Him (Deut 13:10). God issues a list of clean and unclean foods (Deut 14:2-21), for you are a holy people chosen to be a special treasure above all other people on the face of this earth. God gives specific instructions regarding the payment of tithe and in certain instances when the tithe cannot be carried to the place where God had chosen, you are instructed to sell the tithe and use the money to buy whatever your soul lusteth after (Deut 14:22-26). You may buy oxen, sheep, wine, or strong drink and enjoy it all before the Lord, you and your family. This is what the Lord hath commanded. Now just imagine that you never died and you are still living in the year 2008, some 3,500 years later. Just imagine that you just met up with a Seventh-day Adventist minister who tells you the Ten Commandments are still in force and the list of clean/unclean foods is still valid, however, God's command to kill your brother, His command to use your tithe money to buy meat, wine and strong drink so that you can enjoy them with your family, well that's just out of the question. God was wrong to mislead you. He really didn't realize how bad it would be to kill family members nor did He realize how much trouble fermented drinks were going to be in these modern times. And most of all, the church needs your tithe money. Here's the question, If you are to disregard what God says about killing your brother and what God says about using tithe money to buy whatever your soul lusteth after, how are you going to obey Deut 12:32, which God explicitly commands to change nothing? Thoroughly stumped, Pete |
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29 | Kill your brother and drink strong drink | James 2:10 | petedavis6263 | 211028 | ||
Shalom Cheri, As you say ..." it's talking about someone who comes in as one of your own and by his/her wiles leads you astray before you even know what has happened." Then is it true what Deut13:10 says, you must kill that person? Pete |
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30 | Kill your brother and drink strong drink | James 2:10 | petedavis6263 | 211032 | ||
Keliy, You said, "...but God's Word is unchanging and can be discerned..." This is what troubles me, my pastor tells me the same thing, but when I asked him about discerning God's word regarding tithe money to buy strong drink (Deut 14:26) and killing your brother if he should want to lead you away from God (Deut 13:10), he contradicts God and violates Deut 12:32, "Whatever I command you, be careful to observe it; you shall not add to it nor take away from it." He tells me not to drink strong drink, much less use my tithe money to buy any and by no means should I even consider killing anyone who might want to talk me out of loving God. I do agree with you that 2 Tim 3:16-17 is a valuable passage, and this is why I am troubled, how am I to follow God's words without changing some of them like my pastor teaches? Pete |
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31 | Kill your brother and drink strong drink | James 2:10 | petedavis6263 | 211037 | ||
Cheri, My pastor also told me that we must obey God rather than man. He said that is also God's word. Are you saying that I must obey the law of the land instead of God? Pete |
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32 | Kill your brother and drink strong drink | James 2:10 | petedavis6263 | 211039 | ||
Dear John, Thank you for your advice. I will stop my reading of the bible in Deuteronomy and go to the New Testament. By the way, what does pedantic mean in bible study? Also I don't understand how it is that I should learn if I don't read and ask questions. I'm shocked that you feel I am pestering my pastor. How do you suggest that I should learn? God Bless, Pete |
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33 | Kill your brother and drink strong drink | James 2:10 | petedavis6263 | 211040 | ||
Dear CDBJ, I will be shifting my reading to the New Testament starting with Matthew. Thank you for your advice. Pete |
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34 | Kill your brother and drink strong drink | James 2:10 | petedavis6263 | 211049 | ||
Hi Cheri, What do you mean carrying on? Are you saying that I am incorrectly reading the bible? All scripture is given by God and if I have some questions why do you consider it carrying on? Please tell me. There is no one I want to kill and I don't believe I will ever want to kill anyone, but there is one thing I do enjoy now and then, drinking wine and strong drink. My pastor says that I should not drink at all, but God gives me permission to even use my tithe money to do so. I'm not excessive at all but I do enjoy a buzz two or three times a week. Why should I not obey God's word? Pete |
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35 | Kill your brother and drink strong drink | James 2:10 | petedavis6263 | 211050 | ||
Yes Cheri, I have already started reading the first chapter of Matthew. Thank you for that advice. Pete |
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36 | Kill your brother and drink strong drink | James 2:10 | petedavis6263 | 211076 | ||
Dear John, I'm sure the NT will fill me with more light on what my pastor is trying to say and that is why I have already started my readings. I am a third or so through Matthew and already have some questions, but let me answer your last posting. I do not get drunk with wine or strong drink. I am not a thief, covetous, reviler or swindler. I have never been and never will be a drunkard. When I drink my wine or margarita with my dinner I enjoy a buzz that relaxes me and allows me to feel the goodness of God's blessings. It is a wonderful euphoria to behold the majesty of God's creation. In your paragraph where you said most bible scholars believe the "strong drink" mentioned in Dt 14:26 is to be taken with the food they were eating as was available and customary, then you have validated my use of strong drink with my meals. Thank you, Pete |
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37 | Kill your brother and drink strong drink | James 2:10 | petedavis6263 | 211077 | ||
Hi John, With all due respect, I did not fabricate God's command to drink strong drink. If you think I am wrong then you are calling God's command into question because don't children who can read these words can also read Deut. 14:26? Pete |
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38 | Kill your brother and drink strong drink | James 2:10 | petedavis6263 | 211080 | ||
Dear WOS, Thank you for your welcome words. Yes I will continue to study God's word as it has already freed me from unwarranted guilt. It is a wonderful feeling. When one embraces and follows a command from God, don't you think it is the ultimate glorification of His majesty? After a hard day's work I come home and enjoy my drink with my dinner, I gaze out at the sunset and I remember what God says in Ecc 9:7, "Go thy way, eat thy bread with joy, and drink thy wine with a merry heart; for God accepteth thy works." How much better can I glorify my God? I can't help but feel God's blessings all around me. Remember, God says not to change what He has commanded. If I subscribe to your way of thinking then I will be guilty of ignoring His wisdom. Yes you are correct regarding the evil of excess, but that applies to practically everything. If you drink too much water it is bad for you, if you eat too much food it is bad for you, if you overwork your body it is bad for you, if you focus too much on the acquisition of money it is bad for you. From all indications God does not forbid strong drink, He just forbids the overindulgence of it. I'm not sure what your meaning is with 1 Cor 6:12, but isn't there a verse in the NT that says "let no man judge you in meat or drink?" Aren't you guilty of not only going against God's command to drink strong drink, but judging those who do? Pete |
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39 | Kill your brother and drink strong drink | James 2:10 | petedavis6263 | 211081 | ||
Dear Cheri, Don't be sorry, you did not blow it for me. Thank you for continuing our dialogue. Am I correct about your instruction that if I am too far away from the church I belong too, I must go to the closest church down the street and give my tithes to them, the wrong church? Pete |
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40 | Kill your brother and drink strong drink | James 2:10 | petedavis6263 | 211084 | ||
Quite the contrary, The clear teachings of the scripture authorizes the enjoyment of strong drink. In fact it is a command from God. I do marvel at God's handiwork with and without enhancement. Can you answer the question, why would God sanction the intake of wine and strong drink if He intended them to be not be enjoyed? I don't understand how you can read Deut 14:26 and Ecc 9:7 and not accept what God says? Pete |
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