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21 | Once saved, aways saved doctrine refuted | Matt 10:1 | bubbatate | 54312 | ||
Dear Steve..... Me thinks thou protesteth too much. Bub |
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22 | self control / spirit control | 1 Cor 9:25 | bubbatate | 54311 | ||
Dear Steve..... The sacrifice was always to be at the place of the LORD's choosing.......I believe that Calvary is where one goes for his sacrifice. Singing the Song of Moses and the Song of the Lamb....Bub |
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23 | self control / spirit control | 1 Cor 9:25 | bubbatate | 54310 | ||
continued from previous post: Now…….how I personally got sucked into this off the wall cult……it seemed to me that the closer I could get to the original congregation of Y’shua the closer I would be to authenticity……..there’s been a lot lost over the past 2,000 years so it’s not easy….incredibly however, there are a few of us all over the world who have come to the same conclusion…….so we devised this “strange and new” religion. The holiest days on the “strange and new” calendar that we follow are: The seventh day Sabbath of the LORD—looking back to the creation, and forward to the creation of a new heaven and a new earth and celebrating all of the LORD’s goodness in between. Passover--the day of the crucifixion of our Jewish Savior, Y’shua. The Feast of Unleavened Bread--symbolizing the removal of sin afforded through the Jewish blood of Y’shua. The Day of the Elevation of the Firstfruits—The day Y’shua arose from the grave, looking forward to our resurrection.. Shavout or The Feast of Weeks—the day that the Holy Spirit was poured out on the first generation believers of this “new and strange” religion who were in Jerusalem for the Feast. The Day of Trumpets—the final wake up call to repent, looking forward to the last trumpet which will usher in Y’shua’s return. The Day of Atonement—looking forward to the cleansing of the earth by Y’shua and the total annihilation of Satan. The Feast of Tabernacles—looking forward to the day when the tabernacle of the LORD will be with men, and He personally will tabernacle with them. I know those are bizarre and unchristianlike celebrations but after many years of observing those well documented, scripturally substantiated holy days of Sundays, xmas, good friday and easter, I needed a break. Thank you for your concern for my lost condition……. Singing the Song of Moses and the Song of the Lamb (that strange and new religion)….. Bub |
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24 | self control / spirit control | 1 Cor 9:25 | bubbatate | 54309 | ||
Dear John...... I will attempt to explain my strange and new religion for you, I admit, it’s pretty wild and way out there. It began a long, long time ago in a far off land. The creator of the universe, I will call Him “the LORD” to keep the dialogue uncomplicated, sought to have fellowship with His creation. He did so by informing certain men as to who He is and what His will was for His creation. He told many of these priviledged men to write down what He had to say. I am privy to these writings and have built my strange and new religion upon them. The LORD was looking for a enclave of his creation to follow the wisdom of these writings and be a light, an example, for the rest of the nations, in hopes that they too would choose to join up with his chosen people…..He called these people “Israel” meaning "God prevails". Unfortunately, most of this group, although they got off to a good start chose to do what was right in their own eyes as opposed to following what was right in the eyes of the LORD….time doesn’t allow for the sordid details. As it appeared that these people needed a lot more assistance, instead of giving up on them, the LORD sent His Son to Israel to get them back on track…..instead of soley having the writings which the LORD prescribed, they would have a flesh and blood teacher to personally guide them back to the correct path……the Son’s name was Y’shua, an angel of the LORD told His mother to give Him that name. He told Israel to “repent”, to turn around and rethink things and make the necessary adjustments in accordance with the teachings of the LORD. He taught that this community of excellence, He called it a Kingdom, that the LORD originally had in His mind, would be established, with them or without them, and it would last for eternity……He said that everyone who did the will of His Father, i.e. followed the LORD’s teachings instead of doing what was right in their own eyes, was going to be included…….those who opted out would experience an unpleasant future. These teachings and warnings were accepted by some and rejected by others……some chose to remain in their comfort zone and follow the so called Jewish religious elite of the day or the popular Hellenistic secular way of life. As Y’shua was a threat to the status quo, the religious and secular elite had to dispose of Him, which He knew would happen. However, he arose from the grave as an affirmation to His followers……with many other implications that I will not get into at this point…..they’re pretty heavy. Y’shua’s apostles and His disciples and the first generation believers (reformed Israel)continued to reject the corrupt Jewish religious establishment and continued the “reformation” which Y’shua initiated. They were seen as a breakaway Jewish sect known as “the Way” or the “Nazarene sect” yet they still congregated at the Temple and synagogues with unreformed Israel. They were indeed a light to unreformed Israel as well as to the gentiles, and many chose to join this renewal of getting back to the teachings of the LORD and away from the teachings of men. Many years later some of them wrote down the history of their movement. There were also communiqués among each other and to the outlying communities which have been preserved. Within a short time, although the “religion” had grown by leaps and bounds it also, in many cases, reverted back to corruption…..Israel was up to its old tricks again.....so much so that the LORD gave orders to Y’shua that He needed to reveal even more to His people……He told John, one of His apostles, to write it down……He told Him to write letters to seven communities…….five of them were already way off base after only about fifty years, only two in seven remained faithful. This is the only record of anyone having been told by the LORD to write something in the post Y’shua period. That is basically the history of this “strange and new” religion, simplistically stated. You may be able to get a more comprehensive copy of the teachings of the LORD and the historical accounts of Y’shua at your local “strange and new” religion book store. continued……please see next post |
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25 | Once saved, aways saved doctrine refuted | Matt 10:1 | bubbatate | 54232 | ||
Dear Brad……. I have to jump in here….I hope you don’t mind. You said, “I would not go to the OT to find doctrine regarding salvation as a NT Body of Christ member! To do so is to not "rightly divide the word of truth". What version of the NT did the Bereans check out when looking for confirmation concerning Y’shua the King (Acts 17:7, 11)? I guarantee you that if the Bereans had been told that this Messiah/King did away with the Law and Prophets in that He “fulfilled” them and because of His teachings and resurrection the Sabbath command had become a thing of the past they would have rejected Him in a heart beat…..which is why so few Jews today will even consider the possibility that “Jesus” is the Messiah. If it doesn’t fit with the word of the LORD they’re not buying it. They, the Bereans as well as Torah loving contemporary Jews, know the mandate for the King of Israel…… DT 17:18 “When he takes the throne of his kingdom, he is to write for himself on a scroll a copy of this TORAH, taken from that of the priests, who are Levites. [19] It is to be with him, and he is to read it all the days of his life so that he may learn to revere the LORD his God and FOLLOW CAREFULLY ALL THE WORDS OF THIS TORAH and these decrees [20] and NOT consider himself better than his brothers and TURN FROM TORAH TO THE RIGHT OR TO THE LEFT. Then he and HIS DESCENDENTS (that would include Y’shua) will reign a long time over his kingdom in Israel.” This is not part of the picture that Christian doctrine presents. You said, “Ezekiel is NOT written to the Body of Christ, but to the Jews under the Law….. they were not indwelt with the Holy Spirit” Right…..Ezekiel was delivering a message to Israel……notice that the promise of a new heart and THE INDWELLING OF THE HOLY SPIRIT was promised to ISRAEL (Eze 36:22, 26-27)…….it says nothing about gentiles who have not become naturalized citizens of the nation of Israel. You can’t claim promises specifically given to Israel (e.g. the indwelling of the Holy Spirit) if you are not Israel………that would make the LORD out to be a practitioner of bait and switch tactics. You called yourself a “NT Body of Christ member”………….Fill in the blanks: “I will make a NEW COVENANT with the house of ________and with the house of __________.” You cannot put the word “Christians” or "Torahless gentiles" in either blank and keep the integrity of Jer 31:31. It was and is for “Jews”…..period! You proudly announce that you don’t go to the OT for doctrine…..fine…..don’t go there for promises either. That’s not rightly dividing the “word of truth” of which you made mention. Ps 119:43 Do not snatch THE WORD OF TRUTH from my mouth, for I have put my hope in your LAWS. [44] I will ALWAYS OBEY YOUR LAW (TORAH), for ever and ever. [45] I will walk about in FREEDOM, for I have sought out your precepts. Imagine that concept, “Freedom IN the Torah”……that’s the OT concept……..the NT is interpreted as saying, “Freedom FROM the Torah”. What’s wrong with this picture? But then, what about James, he must have gone back to Ps 119 and erroneously imposed it upon the NT, for he says, Ja 1:25 But the man who looks intently into THE PERFECT LAW THAT GIVES FREEDOM, and continues to do this, not forgetting what he has heard, but DOING IT--he will be blessed in what he does. This is NT and I’ll bet this doesn’t fit your doctrine either…..perfect, law, freedom and works….all in one NT passage! You made the accusation, albeit not to me personally, “You are confusing a very basic issue between Law and Grace.” Ps 119:29 “Keep me from deceitful ways; be GRACIOUS to me through your LAW (TORAH). [30] I have chosen the WAY OF TRUTH; I have set my heart on your laws.” (He is obviously also confused.) Here in Ps 119:29 we have the concept of grace and law appearing in the same sentence……freedom and law and now this! How can this be? Grace and freedom are strictly NT words aren’t they…..used to explain away the Torah? If the author of Ps 119 would come to your church and begin to say his piece, would he be told to clam up because, as you said, “Failure to heed the differences of scripture,” (between the OT and NT) “results in confusion and inconsistency in interpretation.” ? Your analysis of what causes “confusion and inconsistency” is off course by 180 degrees. Singing the Song of Moses and the Song of the Lamb…..Bub |
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26 | self control / spirit control | 1 Cor 9:25 | bubbatate | 54205 | ||
Hi Tim, Your comment: “My point was that the Law was not evil, but it has served it's [Hank would put a (sic) here :)] purpose and we are no longer bound by it.” Its purpose was to be our schoolmaster, right? To train us up in the way that we should go? Right? After you “graduate” do you throw out everything you’ve learned and leave a vacuum or REPLACE it with something else? I think not…….is what we learn in school the sum total of all we will ever know?….no… but it is the foundation upon which everything else will be supported…..if you remove the Torah, you remove the foundation and you have a house built upon sand, shifting ground, which Y’shua so amply illustrated. Your comment: “Jesus Himself taught that the Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath.” Exactamundo………The Sabbath is a wonderful gift from the LORD to man and the religious elite had turned it into a real drag…….and Christianity has turned it into a non-event. You said, “We miss the point of the Sabbath if we simply elevate it to a rule which must be followed!” I totally agree……it is a sanctified day to assemble and enjoy the goodness of the LORD…….if one just sees it as an externally imposed mandate…..he should stay home and wash the car……he won’t get a thing out of the Sabbath and he’ll just put a damper on the party. As for the debate on the ending of Mark….I’ve already said all that I’m going to say....since we don’t have the original manuscripts all we can do is speculate. Singing the Song of Moses and the Song of the Lamb….Bub |
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27 | self control / spirit control | 1 Cor 9:25 | bubbatate | 54191 | ||
Hi Steve, It would depend on the context......the point is what did first generation Jewish believers, including Paul et. al. consider "scripture"? THERE WAS NO NEW TESTAMENT! Also, you didn't answer my question from Wednesday, I think it was......You said, "Heb 10:26-29 is addressing “Jews who have the Gospel, and are now wavering…on the verge of abandoning Jesus for the Law.” My question was: "Is that the same as the “Gospel” which is mentioned in Heb 4:2 and 4:6? Singing the Song of Moses and the song of the Lamb.....Bub |
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28 | Are you refering to the thief ? | Matt 10:1 | bubbatate | 54189 | ||
Joe..... All the critical information I need to defend Y'shua, that He lived, died and rose again, and that He redeemed through His blood and that He will return are all documented in the Revelation......written under orders to do so. Revelation is a "thus saith the LORD". How do you account for the poor journalism exhibited in the aforementioned passages? Singing the Song of Moses and the Song of the Lamb.....Bub |
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29 | self control / spirit control | 1 Cor 9:25 | bubbatate | 54181 | ||
Dear John..... All writing is scripture....I'm writing scripture as I type, yet hardly "Holy Scripture"......"Holy Scripture" is "thus saith the LORD" writings.......that which Timothy knew from infancy. Singing the Song of Moses and the Song of the Lamb.....Bub |
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30 | Are you refering to the thief ? | Matt 10:1 | bubbatate | 54179 | ||
Dear J.F. Since there's a lot of "thief" discussion going on lately, have ya'll noticed: Mt 27:44 In the same way the ROBBERS (PLURAL; SEE V 38) who were crucified with him also heaped insults on him. MK 15:32 Let this Christ, this King of Israel, come down now from the cross, that we may see and believe." THOSE (PLURAL, SEE V 27) crucified with him also heaped insults on him. LK 23:39 ONE (SINGULAR) OF THE CRIMINALS who hung there hurled insults at him: "Aren't you the Christ? Save yourself and us!" [40] But the OTHER (SINGULAR) criminal rebuked him. "Don't you fear God," he said, "since you are under the same sentence? [41] We are punished justly, for we are getting what our deeds deserve. But this man has done nothing wrong." [42] Then he said, "Jesus, remember me when you come into your kingdom. " [43] Jesus answered him, "I tell you the truth, today you will be with me in paradise." John, the only one who attests to having been at the crucifixion, is silent on the thief matter. Does anyone have a rational take on this conundrum? I need an intelligent explanation…..I’ve heard all the stupid ones. I can’t understand why the repentant thief episode was not deemed worthy of mention in three of the gospels, and in fact is contradicted in two of them……(please no “he repented later” responses…..two of the gospel writers clearly leave us believing that there was no repentance.) Thanks......Bub |
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31 | Eternal Security is it possible? | 2 Tim 1:12 | bubbatate | 54170 | ||
Hi Kalos.... In flipping channels one day I stopped at the Catholic channel briefly to see what they were up to, Mother so and so was quoting John 2:19 "They went out from us, but they were not really of us; for if they had been of us, they would have remained with us; but they went out, in order that it might be shown that they all are not of us." She was directing the verse to Protestants....as to how they got so far afield.....AMAZING! Singing the Song of Moses and the Song of the Lamb.....Bub |
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32 | self control / spirit control | 1 Cor 9:25 | bubbatate | 53994 | ||
Dear Tim…… I totally concur with what you had to say………my battle is with the popular view that we do not have to live Torah………except for the parts we like…..we get to choose what’s in and what’s out. I will focus my point on only one element, the Sabbath commandment, for the purpose of keeping the discourse simple, for one thing, and because it is the most glaring example of picking and choosing……who decided that the Sabbath is optional? You said we obey because we are saved…….this is absolutely the truth……but the common Christian mantra is that we don’t have to keep the Sabbath because we’re saved as opposed to saying, and practicing, we keep the Sabbath because we’re saved. Do we keep the Sabbath to be saved or justified? NO!!!!!!! That would be false motivation……I think Y’shua was touching on this when He said, “you are neither hot nor cold”. In other words, if you’re not obeying with enthusiastic whole heartedness, be real and don’t do it at all……that is a more honest position than half heartedly going through the motions. This, I also think, is what was going on when the LORD said, “I hate your Sabbaths…..”. If you are doing any commandment on a superficial level forget it…….it is not righteousness, it does not please the LORD. If one enthusiastically loves the LORD and acknowledges His words with enthusiasm…..he will keep the commandments with enthusiasm from the heart. We don’t do them to get brownie points or as fire insurance……we do them because “Father knows best”. Israel had a huge problem with this……they were constantly doing what was right in their own eyes (I see Christians as doing the same with the Sabbath, xmas and easter, etc….these are Roman catholic teachings, not the LORD’s…..the reformation stopped short of total reform, but that’s another tangent.) ……there was no problem with the Old Covenant or the Torah (teachings), that would indicate that the LORD messed up and had to rethink things. The problem was people…….they had to change…..and the LORD most graciously, through the Messiah and the Holy Spirit’s ministry of the New Covenant gave them that opportunity. Does the New Covenant negate any of the teachings……NO. The teachings (Torah) are the same…..we are different. Are we on the same page? Thank you for jumping in with the voice of reason……this discussion has gone off on wild unfruitful tangents. Singing the Song of Moses and the Song of the Lamb……Bub P.S. I just read your post on the ending of Mark…..this is evidence, to me, that the NT was not considered “Holy Scripture”…….the NT writings were not meticulously preserved and recopied, as were the OT…….as copies were made it seems someone felt free to add on to Mark, who knows who?…..who knows how much editing went on as all of these NT documents were passed around?…..without the original documents we have no clue…..but we know for sure from Mark that it happened, we just don’t know where and how much. I thank the LORD that He specifically warned not to mess with the Revelation, I can view that with full confidence…..I’m sure it was honored as prophesy, and not a communiqué or commentary, and thereby preserved with integrity. |
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33 | self control / spirit control | 1 Cor 9:25 | bubbatate | 53901 | ||
Dear Steve……. Before I get into your message with both feet…..can you clarify a point for me? You said that Heb 10:26-29 is addressing “Jews who have the Gospel, and are now wavering…on the verge of abandoning Jesus for the Law.” I’m not seeing that, help me out, please. As far as the “Gospel” which you mentioned above….is that the same as the “Gospel” which is mentioned in Heb 4:2 and 4:6? Thanks a lot, Steve, Still singing…………..Bub |
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34 | self control / spirit control | 1 Cor 9:25 | bubbatate | 53899 | ||
Dear Steve………… You just don’t get it do you??????????? Torah (translated “law”) means “teaching”…..it can be anybody’s teaching unless it is clear through the examination of the context whose teachings are being referred to….are you with me so far, Steve? When Paul is speaking NEGATIVELY about the “law”…….is it conceivable that he was speaking of the teachings of his LORD? God forbid! My point was, he must have been referring to someone else’s teaching when he was speaking AGAINST the “law” for he surely would not speak against a “thus saith the LORD”. I apologize for having poor communication skills. Singing the song of Moses and the Song of the Lamb……..Bub |
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35 | self control / spirit control | 1 Cor 9:25 | bubbatate | 53892 | ||
Continued from above: Do the teachings of the LORD (Torah) ever become obsolete? If so, then LORD is obsolete. Are they on the cafeteria plan where you can just pick the ones you like and leave the rest? Were the teachings weak, faulty and too difficult and had to be replaced?…..if so then the LORD is weak, faulty and He expects way too much. Frankly, I think that speaking against the LORD’s teachings (Torah) is blasphemy and refusing to live by any or all of them is presumptuous sin which is defined as wickedness. Look at your statement, “. Regenerated people (saints) have two natures, one carnal and the other spiritual. The carnal (old man) is a slave to sin. The spiritual man a slave to righteousness (new creature). We are to consider ourselves dead to sin and alive to Christ. In other words, because our righteousness is by faith and not by works. Therefore (in Christ) we have an imputed righteousness and the keeping of the law was "fullfiled" by Him.” For one thing, since you chose to use the word “saints”, look at how Rev 14:12 defines “saints”…..”the saints…obey God's commandments AND remain faithful to Y’shua.” Where do you find God’s commandments? Hmmmmmm? How many of them are operative for these saints? Are the regenerated “saints” of which you speak obeying the commandments of God (works)…..or is it faith in Jesus only that qualifies them for sainthood? Notice the word “AND” in 14:12,…..it is not “either/or”. Now analyze your statement, “Therefore (in Christ) we have an imputed righteousness and the keeping of the law was "fullfiled" by Him.” (I’m assuming that you mean the same as that popular Christian teaching, “We don’t have to do the Torah because Jesus did it for us.”) Again, put the words “the teachings of the LORD” in place of “law”. What then does your statement mean? What actually does Y’shua’s claim that He came to fulfill the Torah mean? If you will look up the word “fulfill”, you’ll see it means to fill in a hole. Therefore, what did Y’shua do in coming to fulfill the Torah? He came to further expounded upon the LORD’s teachings to correct a lot of misunderstandings and misapplications, i.e. to fill In the holes. Now, Christianity isn’t just misapplying Torah….she’s completely thrown it out….in which case she’s even worse than a Pharisee. As for your closing question, “Do you believe that keeping the Torah contributes in any way to "justification"?” Well let’s see: Ro 2:13 “For it is not those who hear the law who are righteous in God's sight, but it is those who obey the law who will be declared righteous.” Ja 2:24 “You see that a person is justified by what he does and not by faith alone.” MT 7:21 "Not everyone who says to me, Lord, Lord, will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. (I’m assuming that the Torah [teaching] of the Father is the expression of His will; please correct me if I’m wrong.) My answer to your question is thereby a definite “you betcha!”. Singing the Song of Moses and the Song of the Lamb…….Bub |
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36 | self control / spirit control | 1 Cor 9:25 | bubbatate | 53890 | ||
Dear John, Thanks for your input, I will address the points that you made. First of all, we need to examine the definition that you gave for how Paul defined “law”, you said, “The term "law" means anything established, anything received by usage, a custom, a law, a command.” This sounds like a dictionary definition, is that so? If that was Paul’s working definition, which it very well could have been, then the below passages make perfect sense…..he could very well have been talking about commonly known customs or commands which were popularly held…… i.e. those of the Pharisees etc. Read all of the below statements and insert “the customs and commands as defined by popular usage” in the place of “law”. These statements make perfect sense in that context. “The Law is not of faith” “I am dead to the Law” “We are delivered from the Law” “Messiah is the end of the Law for righteousness” “If you are led of the Spirit, you are not under the Law” “By deeds of the Law there shall no flesh be justified” “The Law brings wrath” Messiah “abolished in his flesh….the commandments” “A man is not justified by observing the Law but by faith in Y’shua Mashiach.” However, what is the most popular Christian take on the word “law”? It is the “law” that the LORD gave to Moses and it is not for Christians; they insert that concept into the above passages. Agreed so far? The Hebrew word unfortunately translated as “law” is, of course, “Torah” (8451). Look it up….it in no way, shape, manner, or form means what Christians purport it to mean. It means “teaching” or “instruction”. It is from the Hebrew root word “yarah” (3384), meaning “teach, aiming a finger at”. Therefore “Torah” is a teaching which points us in the right direction……and since it is the LORD who is doing the teaching, it is the LORD’s Torah…..not Moses’; the “law of Moses” is the teaching that the LORD gave to Moses to pass on to Israel. Is this what Christians so vehemently rail against…..is this what they protest that they are not under and if you say they are you are a written off as legalist and a Judaizer? They are railing against what they perceive the Torah to be, not against what it really is. Go back to the above listed passages…..insert “the LORD’s teaching” in the place of “law”…….do they make sense? Do you want your theology to be based upon bad mouthing the teachings of the LORD? Yet, that is what Christians are doing when they use these passages to “prove” that the Torah is not for Christians. They are in reality saying “The way that the LORD has instructed His people to go is not for us.” Continued……see next posting |
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37 | self control / spirit control | 1 Cor 9:25 | bubbatate | 53888 | ||
Hi..... I'm about to get a reply off to "reformed John" which pretty much responds to your concerns as well.....so consider it my reply to you also....ok? Singing the Song of Moses and the Song of the Lamb....Bub |
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38 | self control / spirit control | 1 Cor 9:25 | bubbatate | 53789 | ||
Picking up from the previous post….. Speaking again in a civil vein……picture this (I admit this is wild)……but say I decided to bring a civil suit against my old pastor…….I gave his organization thousands of dollars and I want it back….Why? Because in his mission statement he said he was committed to teaching the truth of the Bible. He teaches that the Sabbath commandment has been made null and void because of the resurrection of Y’shua. I charge that he has not told me the truth, the Bible does not teach that the Sabbath has been abrogated or changed to another day, and I want my attorney (an atheist, let’s say) to prove that the pastor lied to me and I gave him money under false pretenses and I want it back. With my unbiased atheist attorney using only the Bible (sola scriptura) as evidence to make my case, would I win? If you were the attorney for the defense, how would you plead the pastor’s case? If the judge was an atheist and therefore having no doctrinal biases……how would he rule on the evidence and how would he have come to his decision? In conclusion, I seek righteousness in the Torah, for it defines righteousness, that which I choose…I seek sin in the Torah for it defines sin, that which I choose to avoid …Torah is the light to my path…..does Torah make me righteous?……No….can I claim any righteousness for myself without the Spirit of grace and the blood of Y’shua?….no way……since Y’shua nailed my rap sheet to the cross and the Holy Spirit is causing me to walk in the LORD’s decrees and laws (Eze 36:26-27)…I can take no personal credit….I can do nothing but praise the LORD for what He’s shown me and for what He’s done in me and for me. Singing the Song of Moses and the Song of the Lamb……Bub |
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39 | self control / spirit control | 1 Cor 9:25 | bubbatate | 53786 | ||
Dear IISa…….. Thanks for your input. I don’t believe that all sin is willful, for instance, sometimes a “white lie” will be out of my mouth before I know it……sometimes I get angry without a moment’s notice and sometimes I say things hastily that I regret and know were wrong and hurtful…..sometimes I see a cool car and wish it was mine……those are sins, i.e. missing the mark…..but they were not willful, I did not decide to do them, but there they are…..I do confess these shortfalls and try to curb my impulsiveness in the future…..with varying degrees of success. A willful sin is one you contemplate before hand, know it’s wrong, and go for it anyway. Also, I believe that calling good evil and evil good is willful sin. For instance, many practicing homosexuals, with the blessings of their pastors, say that homosexual sex is not a sin….just because they choose not to accept God’s definition of sin they are, I think, in the LORD’s eyes sinning willfully and defiantly…..and the preachers who encourage them, in the name of “love” are false teachers. I know a certain popular TV preacher, who over and over again has said there’s no sin, past, present or future which is not forgiven once you have "received Jesus into your heart", and once saved always saved……almost like carte blanche……Those kinds of statements seem to mislead a lot of people into seeing “salvation” as their get out of jail free card. Look at the letters to the churches in the Revelation, Y’shua is speaking to “church” people, not heathens……5 out of 7 are messing up……he doesn’t comfort them with sweet talk about grace and forgiveness……He says “Repent or else!”. This was only about 60 years after the resurrection and five-sevenths of the congregations were in pathetic shape…..we are over 2000 years removed …….what’s contemporary Christendom’s ratio of right track vs wrong track today….can we assume it’s better or worse than two-sevenths going in the right direction? Of course, every denomination thinks that they are “Philadelphia” and the one around the corner is “Laodicia”. Mt 7:21 also comes to mind…… "Not everyone who says to me, “Lord, Lord”, will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. [22] Many will say to me on that day, “Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and in your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?” [23] Then I will tell them plainly, I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers (practitioners of lawlessness)!” Y'shua specifically defines who will be rejected, calling them “anomia” (no law or without law) doers……the opposite then, those who will enter the kingdom, would be those who live the Law (nomos) i.e. do the will of the Father as Y’shua said. (I’m sure you know this, but just to be clear…..when Greek puts an “a” in front of a word…..it is the opposite of that word. As in “atheist”……a “theist” is one who acknowledges God…..and we all know what putting an “a” in front of that means….it’s the exact opposite.) The above, Mt 7:21, is also talking about “church” people……not heathens…..they must be really serious and active “church” people….into prophesy, driving out demons and performing miracles…..all in the name of the Messiah (they’re “giving him the glory”)…..with all this going on they must also be very visible in the congregation and a huge influence on others. This is scary stuff. Y’shua is offering no grace and no blood covering.....they are already standing in His presence.....it’s too late for repentance, the grace period is over…..they’re dead meat. Were they knowingly sinning? Apparently not….they’re shocked to find that they’re not in the loop. My guess is they did not know they were sinning because their definition of sin was amiss…….which illustrates that ignorance, which is seen as ignoring the Torah in Hosea, is not an excuse. [Hos 4:6 “My people are destroyed from LACK OF KNOWLEDGE (ignorance). Because you have rejected knowledge, I also reject you as my priests; because YOU HAVE IGNORED THE TORAH OF YOUR GOD, I also will ignore your children.“] We don’t know specifically what the Mt 7:21 people were up to so that we can specifically avoid the pit they got themselves into……Y’shua simply categorizes them as “lawless”…….so how then can we avoid their downfall? By being “lawful” I would think……how do you practice “lawfulness”…..by being full of the Law (i.e. accept it fully, not partially). Frankly, and brutally, in my opinion…….I think that Christianity’s negating of the fourth commandment is a fatal flaw, I think it qualifies as “lawlessness”…..it is ignoring "the Torah of your God", as Hosea says above. Civilly speaking, you don’t have to break every law in the book to be deemed a criminal……choosing to break one of them will do….of course, this is also the point which James 2:10-11 is making concerning Torah. Continued…….see next post |
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40 | self control / spirit control | 1 Cor 9:25 | bubbatate | 53760 | ||
Hank......I can't thank you enough for the heads up on Spurgeon......it was awesome!!! It made me nostalgic for that "old time religion".....they just don't preach like that anymore. Thanks again.....Bub |
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