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201 | INVITATION | NT general | jlhetrick | 200042 | ||
Irish E. These types of dialogues can only be fruitful when we stick to the point, rely on Scripture, and ensure that our emotions don't carry us away. Otherwise we end up in a battle of wills believing someone has to win. Of course, then the focus is entirely on self. In order that I don't further convolute the missed points here I'll just simply say that "I should never say what I would do or would not do" would be a good tact. The best way to handle things like the original inquiry of sqkeener is to offer Scriptural reference addressing the issue as best you can supply it so that the questioner can be better informed to make a decision. I hope this is an example of giving appropriate advise on the forum. It's not my opinion, it's in keeping with the Terms of Use of the Forum. We must strive to uphold the rules and standards of our gracious host, The Lockman Foundation, and keep this about bible study. Please forgive me if you understood me to be saying that YOU would drag someone into church. I specifically wrote in my last post "(not what your saying; what their saying)" to avoid being misunderstood in that way. You still have not attempted to respond to my biblical references or attempted to offer any biblical support of your own so I am left, at this point, assuming that you are unwilling or unable to do so. Sometimes the struggle is not with not having the answer, but in not being willing to let go of our assertions. Jeff |
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202 | INVITATION | NT general | jlhetrick | 200019 | ||
Well said brother Hank! |
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203 | INVITATION | NT general | jlhetrick | 200018 | ||
Thanks for the response Irish Eyes. Not meaning to be contentious; your suggesting that you would handle the situation in a certain way still amounts to giving advise but Hank has appropriately addressed the giving advise issue. Still concerned though that you may not be considering the scripture I included in my previous post to you as you still do not afford the Christian individual and the Church body as a whole the consideration of what scripture demands. That is, the RESPONSIBILITY of not being unequally yoked with unbelievers. What you are referring to as "legalism in the truest sense" seems to me to be what Scripture demands. That is, taking responsibility that we are not unequally yoked with unbelievers. I'm concerned that your position is based more in the emotion than in Scripture (as the Scripture has already been supplied). At least if you believe I'm misunderstanding you (as I very well may be) please try to address the Scripture references I gave you. Then we will be in a better position to understand each other. If Scripture says what it says (as referenced) where is the legalism you refer to so strongly. Again I may be misunderstanding you but your latests post, to which I am now responding, seems to be one of the truest fallacies of the modern day church. Perhaps it was true to some extent in the early church but there is no doubt that it is a major problem today. Open the doors wide and let anybody in. Not only that, but lure them in and even drag them if necessary. Not the biblical picture of the Church. I'm not saying deny anyone the opportunity to hear the Word, but membership is an entirely different issue. Your wrong, in my opinion, that the time of action is after a MEMBER becomes disruptive or divisive. That misses the whole point. Many of the local churches of today are so full of those types that if there were to be any "sending... from among" some local bodies would shrink to the point those that remained would be very lonely. One reason, again in my opinion, local church bodies refuse to follow the biblical mandates regarding accountability and discipline. Instead, the modern thinking seems to be how many, how fast, and hope that some are prestigious and wealthy enough to build us a really big building (not what your saying; what their saying). If you do respond please provide a biblical argument for your position so that we be productive and not involved in personal opinion/position arguments. God bless, Jeff |
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204 | INVITATION | NT general | jlhetrick | 199996 | ||
Note of clarification: The "posting" of the man I referred to in the previous post was not a post on SBF and neither he nor my dauther or involved in the Forum. If they were I would never have posted anyting regarding their personal lives. | ||||||
205 | INVITATION | NT general | jlhetrick | 199995 | ||
IrishEyes- It may be that you have made a rush to judgment on this particular subject. Futhermore, by offering the poster advise to "seek another church..." you may be actually steering her away from where God has lead her. Consider 2 Corinthians 6:14. If we are commanded to not be "unequally yoked together with unbelievers" then it must be that it is possible to know a believer from an unbeliever. The answer is found in scripture and the place we start is John 13:35; working forwards and backwords from there. I'm not suggesting that I, or any other person, can know for sure the spiritual condition of another; whether he is saved or unsaved (nor do I believe that these passages are teaching that directly). But we are commanded to do the work of not allowing ourselves to become "unequally yoked". In the end, if we are fooled, let it not be because we are to lazy or uninterested in doing a proper investigation. Currently, my daughter is in a long-lasting relatinship with a man that she says she loves and wants to marry. She met him at church and originally knew him as someone who attended church and was "active". She recently put some distance between herself and him because she read something he had posted referring to himself as an agnostic. She confronted him and he admitted that the posting was true. I am not championing her as a righteous saint, but she said to him as well as her mother and me that she would not marry an unbeliever. Her heart was broken as she related it to me and she holds hope that Christ will save him. Otherwise, she is standing firm. To the young man's credit, he did not simply confess something he doesn't believe in order to have her hand though I know as much as a father can know that he wants to marry her. So let's be careful in how we give advise on the Forum and even more careful regarding what we declare is or is not in Scripture. Otherwise we err regardless of our good intentions. God Bless, Jeff |
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206 | please read | Bible general Archive 4 | jlhetrick | 199675 | ||
G.B. forgive the late response. Yes there was an original question, sorry. Your post I responded to had been entered as a question and so was posted at the top of the home page as though a new topic. Remember that once a thread is started enter all following posts as "Note" so that it shows up chronologically on the home page and not as a new question at the top. You may have already figured that out since my last post to you. In other words, only click on "Question" when your starting a new topic, even if your next post in a thread is a question. Hope I haven't gotten you totally confused at this point. God bless, Jeff |
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207 | NKJV and NASB together. | NT general | jlhetrick | 199662 | ||
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208 | our righteousness | Bible general Archive 4 | jlhetrick | 199617 | ||
And NO! God's Baby- try making use of the "Search" box in the upper right side column of the home page. Type in, for example, the word "righteous" and read to your hearts content. Also, it would be nice (though not required) if you would add some information to your user profile so we can know a little about you. You can do that by clicking on "Update User Info." under the "Resources" heading found in the left side column. Another suggestion is to not ask several questions at once as you might find it difficult to responsibly deal with the several different discussions that might follow. Just trying to be helpful. God bless, Jeff |
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209 | sharing our faith to unbelievers so hard | 1 Cor 1:18 | jlhetrick | 199597 | ||
Dear Gunnie- You couldn't be more mistaken. I believe the most important thing that we adults must do before we ever attempt to be the teachers of our youth is to first understand Scripture ourselves. Doc quoted to you exactly what you seem to be not understanding based on your posts. That is, Romans 10:17. Faith doesn't come from hearing the current teen slang. I mean come on man. s'up wit dat line a thanken anyways. For reals man. I have a 22 year old too, as well as a 17 and 23 year old so "I'm feelin you on that". You write that "the words themselves (refering to Scripture) have no meaning to someone who is not in the faith" failing to acknowledge (after Doc gave it to you) that the ONLY possible way of receiving that faith is through the hearing of those words; that is, the word of God. Not the slang of any particular generations youth. First and foremost we NEVER attempt to "define the words in a way outside the bible". What would than mean anyway? Are you suggesting that the current time and cultural perspectives dictate the meaning of the words of Scripture? Of course not, and I hope that's not your meaning. You write, "quote the bible to them and you will not get anywhere". Your just totally and complete wrong sir/ma'am. I might add that Hillsong may produce music that is biblically acurate and doctrinally sound in many cases, but their lyrics are certainly not inspired so that argument has no relevence strictly speaking. You ask "how can you hear the word of the Lord if you cannot understnd it". 2Chronicels 1:10 would be an excellent place to start your study to answer that question. I would not argue that your intentions are less than honorable but this may be an example of Romans 10:2 I sincerely hope that you will consider these things honestly before continuing to teach others, perhaps especially the young ones. Sincerely and God bless, Jeff |
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210 | Is God's love really unconditional? | Matt 10:33 | jlhetrick | 199276 | ||
Doc- a really excellent post. Something I might add that may be helpful to PaPaH is that we Christians must be wise enough to know when our knowledge of the subject is too limited to offer guidance to others (unbelievers or believers). 2Timothy 2:15-16 God bless, Jeff |
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211 | salvation | Bible general Archive 4 | jlhetrick | 198770 | ||
So the book of 1John was written to unbelievers? Can you provide some bible? Thanks, Jeff |
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212 | salvation | Bible general Archive 4 | jlhetrick | 198769 | ||
Steeno- Seems as though you have really gotten off to a poor start here on the forum. Remember that when we stumble we must quickly right ourselves or we'll be suddenly on our face. In short- your opinion, like my own, is of very little value here and even less so when our understanding and beliefs are not supported by scripture. Saying that they are supported is not sufficient and again, as Azure stated in an earlier post, we must always consider those readers that are not participating in the thread and may have little or no prior bible study background from which to consider our statements. I'm not sure if your lack of significant biblical reference is due to ignorance or arrogance and I hope I am wrong in both cases. I say this because many are guilty of hearing something, in church for example, and clining to it; believing it without ever establishing it as truth by testing it in light of Scripture. When it becomes an issue they find they have nothing to stand on scripurally. Then they're faced with options. They can arrogantly stand their ground. They can study Scripture for the answer (as they should have done in the first place) and if scripture supports their belief they can then appropriately articulate it. Or, and this is the hardest for most people I believe; They can accept that they are wrong and correct their theology (I sure know the pain and yet joy of that). In any case you have faild, refused, to even attempt to give sound, biblical justification for your position (whether you are right or wrong) in spite of being asked by multiple users (though you have dropped a verse or two in the mix). It's as though you drew your own conclusions about the position of others and then took their statements out of context. For example; you took what others have said regarding FELLOWSHIP WITH GOD and suggested they are saying or implying they really meant salvation. I don't find a single argument in the thread suggesting that a saved person's sin (and we all still do) results in a loss of salvation resulting in the need to become saved again which is dependent on the asking for forgiveness, which in and of itself is a work. Yet, you continue to take it there. If you are not able to see the clear teaching in both OT and NT of the process by which God sanctifies those He saves then you will miss the whole point. If you are not guilty of sin you are not in need of reproof. If God corrects those He loves then those He loves must be in need of correction. If we, having known the truth and being beneficiaries of God's grace find ourselves once again sinning, what level of arrogance might we be guilty of when we simply say, "oh well, He's already forgiven me, no need to address it, I might offend Him." (what's in quotes is my impression of what you are saying and not an attempt to quote you directly). I wonder how I might respond to one of my patient's were he to say to me that he had no need to appologize to his wife for having wronged her in some way and no need to ask her forgiveness because "she's already my wife". Perhaps not the best analogy but I really do wonder. Never heard anything like it and I do deal with some seriously prideful and arrogant types in my work. I hope I've contributed something helpful, Jeff |
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213 | Yes, but Is Easter of pagan origin? | NT general Archive 1 | jlhetrick | 198384 | ||
of course Doc, the only judge that matters has already judged you righteous based on the work of Christ. Praise God for that. Jeff |
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214 | God sought Moses to kill him | Ex 4:24 | jlhetrick | 198357 | ||
budderfligh- we certainly do all work hard to keep each other on our toes. It's the only forum that I have found on the internet that has a long standing history of strict adherence to the authority of Scripture. If you are ever so board you can research some of my posts and see not only where I have missed the mark, but had others redirect and correct my statements. How valuable it has been for me to have others give me feedback and challenge me to consider my own thoughts and conclusions about certain things in Scripture. I know this might sound like nothing more than a cliche, but the truth is that my involvement on the forum has truly helped me to understand that what I do know about God and His word is far less than I had at one point believed it to be. That alone was and is essential to spiritual growth I believe. I am truly thankful for the forum and for Lockman's commitment to it's integrity. Thank you for your response. Once again I find myself convicted by the humility of another. God bless, Jeff |
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215 | God sought Moses to kill him | Ex 4:24 | jlhetrick | 198296 | ||
Thanks for the response budderfligh. To clarify- I will avoid a debate regarding punishment vs. judgment especially because I don't believe that our disagreement or misunderstanding is rooted there. I do not at all doubt that God judged Egypt. My only concern with your previous post was the notion that He did so as a "punishment" against Egypt for their mistreatment of the Israelites. My point was that Scripture does not teach that, but, instead teaches that the purpose of the judgment was primarily to demonstrate that God is God and He alone is sovereign as well as to single out Israel as His chosen. Neither the sins of Isreal nor those of Egypt (to include the choices and desires of both) were able to prevent God's being faithful to the covenant He had made with Abraham. My hope was to direct attention to not giving interpretation to biblical events that are not biblically supported, in spite of the common understanding that Egypt was an evil nation and worthy of judgment/punishment. God's purpose is made clear in the text and the text doesn't say that the reason for the judgment was to punish Egypt for mistreating Israel. I would offer further biblical reference (and will when I have time) that might better clarify my point but I'm currently closing down one office for the day and will be heading out to another for a few hours. I don't have chapter and verse committed to memory and do not want to further confound the issue with a misquote. Please don't believe that my original post was an attack. It was simply intended to address what I saw to be an interpretation based on very good assumption but not the text. Got to go, God bless, Jeff |
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216 | Yes, but Is Easter of pagan origin? | NT general Archive 1 | jlhetrick | 198291 | ||
Catisq- Welcome to the forum! A couple of points to start with. You may not be aware that you responded to a post made nearly seven years ago! Not breaking any forum rules in that of course, but there is a good chance that the person you posted to will never see your response, much less respond back to you. In this case, poster "Alive" was only actively posting for a grand total of 22 days with a total of 5 posts. You can check the date of posts in the thread, last column. You can verify the activity of any member by left clicking on their user name in the thread. There you will find the date of the last post along with other information. Also, if you get the time and don't mind, some information about yourself can be included in your User Profile. You can access and edit that feature under "Resources" in the left column of your screen (it's not required). Finally- don't be too concerned with the struggle you may be having regarding recognizing and/or celebrating "holidays". That's not required either. Let me say though, that having a better understanding of how we as Christians should think on these things should have more to do with how we approach it than the historical relevance of what other cultures and religions might have in common with it. For example- you mention "Easter" as being a celebration of the death of Jesus. I personally do refer to the holiday as Easter but what I and my family celebrate is not the death of Jesus, but His resurrection. Lots of men die, but Jesus rose again. That's worthy of celebration in my opinion. We really start to confuse the issue, and ourselves, if we attempt to align the day we celebrate the event with the exact day of the event. After all, we are not celebrating the day, but the event. For Christians, Easter is simply a day set aside to "represent" the single event of Christ's resurrection from the dead. The truth of the evenet should be celebrated each and every day by Christians. I agree with you that we should not judge others based on whether they do or do not celebrate a holiday, religious or otherwise. God Bless, Jeff |
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217 | God sought Moses to kill him | Ex 4:24 | jlhetrick | 198278 | ||
budderfligh- welcome to the forum and happy new year. In your post you wrote regarding Exodus 7:4 "Verse 4 indicates God wanted to "lay my hand upont Egypt", or punish them because of the vile and terrible treatment His people had received at the Egyptians hands as slaves." Perhaps I'm missing it but I'm not finding that in the text. I believe that a deeper study of the topic will show that God's "laying His hand" upon Egypt had more to do with His intent to both keep the covenant He made with Abraham as well as to distinguish His chosen Israel from Egypt (Exd. 11:7) and to demonstrate His sovereignty. A good place to start in our interpretation of verse 4 is the very next verse (5). Ex 7:5The Egyptians shall know that I am the Lord, when I stretch out my hand against Egypt and bring out the people of Israel from among them.”ESV You make reference to my points later in your post, but I wanted to address your interpretation of verse 4. God bless, Jeff |
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218 | God sought Moses to kill him | Ex 4:24 | jlhetrick | 198277 | ||
budderfligh- welcome to the forum and happy new year. In your post you wrote regarding Exodus 7:4 "Verse 4 indicates God wanted to "lay my hand upont Egypt", or punish them because of the vile and terrible treatment His people had received at the Egyptians hands as slaves." Perhaps I'm missing it but I'm not finding that in the text. I believe that a deeper study of the topic will show that God's "laying His hand" upon Egypt had more to do with His intent to both keep the covenant He made with Abraham as well as to distinguish His chosen Israel from Egypt (Exd. 11:7) and to demonstrate His sovereignty. A good place to start in our interpretation of verse 4 is the very next verse (5). Ex 7:5The Egyptians shall know that I am the Lord, when I stretch out my hand against Egypt and bring out the people of Israel from among them.”ESV You make reference to my points later in your post, but I wanted to address your interpretation of verse 4. God bless, Jeff |
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219 | lev.27:19 | 2 Cor 9:7 | jlhetrick | 198275 | ||
Val- I too used to listen to the late Mr. Burkett. A Godly man in my opinion; always careful to teach financial accountability with sound, biblical principles. Just prior to Larry Burkett losing his battle with cancer my schedule had changed disallowing me the time to hear the program. I was sorry to here eventually that Mr. Burkett had passed away. I'm glad to hear the program continues as I believe the organization has been a blessing to so many. I hope the ministry continues to be upstanding, however, I would have to investigate it's current leadership and activities before I could/would recommend it to another... here on the forum or otherwise. God bless and happy new year! Jeff |
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220 | What does it mean to "fall away"? | Luke 8:13 | jlhetrick | 197440 | ||
Noted! thanks! Jeff |
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