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161 | What is the meaning of "line upon line" | Is 28:10 | Scribe | 55629 | ||
It seems to me that the context of Is 28 leads one to think that this idea of line upon line and precept upon precept here, as spoken of in this context in this passage is something that the Lord did not want them to have to rely on to know Him. It seems that the message is that He would that they come closer and have a more Spirit Filled relationship with Him, but they would not. Instead thier answer is "no, we don't need all that intimate stuff. We would just like a list of rules and we will keep them, thank you very much." So God says "fine then I will give you line upon line and precept upon precept that you may go and walk in them and fall and be broken because you will all miserably fail." However he who would know doctrine (true Holy Spirit doctrine) are those that are as they that are weaned at the breast of God almighty, they will intimately walk with Him in relationship and the truths of the word will be made alive by virtue of the Holy Spirit living in them and by their walk of faith and utter dependance on the Lord. If they will... this is the rest that God will give them. Not the sabbath day but the rest of the Holy Spirit in them and leading them. Not a list of rules like sabbath rules and such, but the Holy Spirit in them saying .. this is the way walk ye in it. Not line upon line (rules to keep) but even this Filling of the Holy Spirit and recieving gifts of the Holy Spirit for service such as the gift of tongues which is prophesied in this passage by Paul as having to do with tongues (1 Corinthians 14:21 In the law it is written, With men of other tongues and other lips will I speak unto this people; and yet for all that will they not hear me, saith the Lord.) Yet for all that they will not hear. If this prophesy is about tongues among other things it speaks of and Paul said it was, then we can logically conclude that the subject also includes this experience that always accompanied tongues which was the baptism of the Holy Ghost, so when he says "who will know doctrine?" and answers with "He that is weaned from the breast" and then contrasts it with... Isa 28:11 For with stammering lips and another tongue will he speak to this people. Isa 28:12 To whom he said, This is the rest wherewith ye may cause the weary to rest; and this is the refreshing: yet they would not hear. And again contrasts this with... Isa 28:13 But the word of the LORD was unto them precept upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little; that they might go, and fall backward, and be broken, and snared, and taken. He makes it very clear that there is a difference between a walk of line upon line and a walk of the refreshing rest of the Holy Spirit. I understand that we must live our faith by the Word of God and we must take all scriptures into account when understanding doctrine, but that is not what line upon line means in this passage. This line upon line here means more like a list of rules to keep so you can appease your conscience yet not really love the Lord with your whole heart. It is a snare. As I heard a brother of old once write.." A snare of a step in the right direction.." it is good to keep the "rules" but it is not enough to really know the Lord. If you would Know the Lord you must allow His Spirit to completely own you. My God bless you in your study of His Word. |
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162 | Please explain Isaiah 40:5-6 | Is 40:5 | Scribe | 85099 | ||
Isaiah 40:4-8 Every valley shall be exalted, and every mountain and hill shall be made low: and the crooked shall be made straight, and the rough places plain: And the glory of the LORD shall be revealed, and all flesh shall see it together: for the mouth of the LORD hath spoken it. The voice said, Cry. And he said, What shall I cry? All flesh is grass, and all the goodliness thereof is as the flower of the field: The grass withereth, the flower fadeth: because the spirit of the LORD bloweth upon it: surely the people is grass. The grass withereth, the flower fadeth: but the word of our God shall stand for ever. This passage is a doctrinal foundational passage. There are many doctrines established in the passage. We are most familiar with the Gospels applying verse 4 to the ministry of John the Baptist. There is more to verse 4 than that but in order for me to squeeze an answer into the character limitation of the post I will simply mention that vs 4 tells us that that verse 5 is at least about the coming of Jesus Christ, when John states in John 1 that they beheld his Glory, he was referring to this very promise here in Is being fulfilled in Jesus. Now not only did they behold his glory in the spiritual sense of His message and deeds, but they actually beheld a manifestation of the Glory of God that will again appear when Jesus comes again the 2nd time in His Glory, they saw it when they were with Him on the mount. Jesus told them some of them would not see death until they saw the Son of God come with Power and Glory, and 6 days later some of them (peter, james and John) were with Him on the mount and He was transfigured before them and shone like the sun. Later Peter mentions this in his epistles and says he witnessed the Power and Coming of the Son of God when he was with Him in the mount, (that is how we know that is what Jesus meant when he said some of you will see the power and coming of the Son of God) Peter goes on to say that we all will partake of that very same Glory when Christ comes again. Therefore Peter understood that these OT prophecies were about the Glory that will follow when Jesus comes again a second time and we who have Christ in us will be transfigured and shine as well. All over the earth the believers that are waiting His appearing will shine like like the stars as they are changed in a twinkling, and they will rise and meet the Lord in the Air. This is what I believe about the rapture. It will not be a disappearing in a twinkling, that is not what the scripture says.. but a changing, and a rising, we only disappear after we have risen from view. All flesh will see the Glory of the Lord manifested in us. They will also see the Glory of the Lord when Christ Comes at the end of the tribulation. |
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163 | Stars do cease to exist...Isa 40:26? | Is 40:26 | Scribe | 44093 | ||
Well isn't this interesting. Isaiah 40:26 Lift up your eyes on high, and behold who hath created these things, that bringeth out their host by number: he calleth them all by names by the greatness of his might, for that he is strong in power; not one faileth. First of all does not the idea of black holes proove that they still exist only in another form, and this was said before men discovered such things. Or what about the fact that star light we view is supposed to continue on for ever. SO you see the light of a star that has ceased to shine. Is not the existance of the light another indicator of the reality of the statement, that they do not fail. Is it literal. Maybe more literal than one even knows. I think there are many instances of this in the Bible. There are some metaphorical statements of course. Calling a womans nose the tower of lebanon. not very flattering by today's standards but in SOS it was and the literal tower of lebanon was never meant. We know when it is metaphor and when it is literal by the context. When Comparing God's greatness I would take it literal. |
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164 | Stars do cease to exist...Isa 40:26? | Is 40:26 | Scribe | 44094 | ||
I agree. It does not mean not one of them stops shinning. It simply says they do not fail. I take this as that they do not fail in what God intends for them. | ||||||
165 | Thorn in the flesh | Is 57:1 | Scribe | 45348 | ||
I agree. The messenger of satan was probably a person. And if it was something else it seems to be a spiritual warfare not a physical sickness. If it was an illness it never made Paul pray differently. I mean he did not say "we do not know whether God wants to heal you" instead we see Paul always full of faith and laying hands on the sick and speaking words of Faith. It says he left a brother sick but it does not say if maybe he was healed later. And maybe he was talking about common colds which we all get and get over. The kind of Healing we see Paul and all believers full of faith and the Holy Spirit doing in the Bible is that of opening blind eyes and the lame man walking. I don't thing they were coming with common colds. I think they came with the impossible cases. So we should follow the example of Paul. Whether he had an illness or whether he leaves a brother in a town sick Paul just kept preaching faith in God and laying hands on the sick and sending our handkerchiefs from the sweat of his brow and many were healed of the impossible cases by faith in the Name of Jesus. Next time someone tries to tell you about sister or brother "so and so" that prayed for healing but they died, just tell them "Please don't give me your sad storys" Does your "sad story" make null the word of God? I think not. Here is what the Word says. Matthew 4:24 And his fame went throughout all Syria: and they brought unto him all sick people that were taken with divers diseases and torments, and those which were possessed with devils, and those which were lunatick, and those that had the palsy; and he healed them. Matthew 8:16 When the even was come, they brought unto him many that were possessed with devils: and he cast out the spirits with his word, and healed all that were sick: Matthew 12:15 But when Jesus knew it, he withdrew himself from thence: and great multitudes followed him, and he healed them all; And next time someone who is full of doubt and unbelief trys to tell you that you should not tell people they do not have faith, give them this verse. Mark 6:5 And he could there do no mighty work, save that he laid his hands upon a few sick folk, and healed them. James 5:16 Confess your faults one to another, and pray one for another, that ye may be healed. The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much. 1 Peter 2:24 Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed. Mark 16:17-18 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover. You know all these verses, but what we must do is speak only the Word. When Sad storys start to be presented, Just tell the "well-intended" brother the Word. When he speaks another sad story then speak the Word soon the doubtful brother will begin to be revived and faith will arise in his heart. And he will say. Praise God I see that I indeed am falling into unbelief, I will only speak God's Word on the subject. Then he may actually see a healing take place and be able to comprehend the ihheritance that is in every believer throught faith in that Person Jesus Christ and His Power that is in Us. I have been in a room full of unbelievers that were praying sad prayers about "if it be thy will to heal our sister we ask for it .. but if not give her peace." The sister had breast cancer. I had to "put out" the doubters by telling them to only pray the scriptures. Well no one could pray any healing scriptures that were not positive verses of faith for healing in the right now. So afte we Claimed healing in the name of Jesus for the right now. and agreed as touching it and Thanked the Lord as though the Dr had just given the report that she was cancer free. Then and only then did the sister get healed. Was it becuase we had no faith that she was not healed before that hour or was it just God's Timing? It was obvious to all that were there including the catholics that were there that faith in the Word instead of human philosophy of trying to reason out why so and so did not get healed was the problem. As soon as the saints decided to believe for healing right now, regardless of sad storys they had heard then the sister was healed. |
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166 | Thorn in the flesh | Is 57:1 | Scribe | 45349 | ||
I agree. The messenger of satan was probably a person. And if it was something else it seems to be a spiritual warfare not a physical sickness. If it was an illness it never made Paul pray differently. I mean he did not say "we do not know whether God wants to heal you" instead we see Paul always full of faith and laying hands on the sick and speaking words of Faith. It says he left a brother sick but it does not say if maybe he was healed later. And maybe he was talking about common colds which we all get and get over. The kind of Healing we see Paul and all believers full of faith and the Holy Spirit doing in the Bible is that of opening blind eyes and the lame man walking. I don't thing they were coming with common colds. I think they came with the impossible cases. So we should follow the example of Paul. Whether he had an illness or whether he leaves a brother in a town sick Paul just kept preaching faith in God and laying hands on the sick and sending our handkerchiefs from the sweat of his brow and many were healed of the impossible cases by faith in the Name of Jesus. Next time someone tries to tell you about sister or brother "so and so" that prayed for healing but they died, just tell them "Please don't give me your sad storys" Does your "sad story" make null the word of God? I think not. Here is what the Word says. Matthew 4:24 And his fame went throughout all Syria: and they brought unto him all sick people that were taken with divers diseases and torments, and those which were possessed with devils, and those which were lunatick, and those that had the palsy; and he healed them. Matthew 8:16 When the even was come, they brought unto him many that were possessed with devils: and he cast out the spirits with his word, and healed all that were sick: Matthew 12:15 But when Jesus knew it, he withdrew himself from thence: and great multitudes followed him, and he healed them all; And next time someone who is full of doubt and unbelief trys to tell you that you should not tell people they do not have faith, give them this verse. Mark 6:5 And he could there do no mighty work, save that he laid his hands upon a few sick folk, and healed them. James 5:16 Confess your faults one to another, and pray one for another, that ye may be healed. The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much. 1 Peter 2:24 Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed. Mark 16:17-18 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover. You know all these verses, but what we must do is speak only the Word. When Sad storys start to be presented, Just tell the "well-intended" brother the Word. When he speaks another sad story then speak the Word soon the doubtful brother will begin to be revived and faith will arise in his heart. And he will say. Praise God I see that I indeed am falling into unbelief, I will only speak God's Word on the subject. Then he may actually see a healing take place and be able to comprehend the ihheritance that is in every believer throught faith in that Person Jesus Christ and His Power that is in Us. I have been in a room full of unbelievers that were praying sad prayers about "if it be thy will to heal our sister we ask for it .. but if not give her peace." The sister had breast cancer. I had to "put out" the doubters by telling them to only pray the scriptures. Well no one could pray any healing scriptures that were not positive verses of faith for healing in the right now. So afte we Claimed healing in the name of Jesus for the right now. and agreed as touching it and Thanked the Lord as though the Dr had just given the report that she was cancer free. Then and only then did the sister get healed. Was it becuase we had no faith that she was not healed before that hour or was it just God's Timing? It was obvious to all that were there including the catholics that were there that faith in the Word instead of human philosophy of trying to reason out why so and so did not get healed was the problem. As soon as the saints decided to believe for healing right now, regardless of sad storys they had heard then the sister was healed. |
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167 | Thorn in the flesh | Is 57:1 | Scribe | 45913 | ||
This post and your additional post concerning Paul and the statements he made is exceptional and some of the best reading I have come across in this forumn so far. You should put these thoughts in a book and give it to people who are sick. I believe you have clearly laid out what the Bible says and what I understood when I read it without human intervention. The only conclusion a fair treatment of scripture yields in this subject is that Paul must be speaking of wounds from persecutions and we never read of him being sick. You have let scripture interpret scripture. The idea that saints have become sick and even died of their sickness does not make void the Word of God. I am glad you took the time to post these verses. Don't let the gain sayers, doubters, and unbelievers keep you from posting. There will be thousands that might believe on the The Lord because of your faith filled words. This is what we should use these forums for to post faith filled words that others might read and be drawn closer to Christ. The harsh accusations and arguing spirits are not of God but of the flesh. The servant of the Lord must not strive but be gentle toward all men, apt to teach.. God Bless you and Thank you. | ||||||
168 | Thorn in the flesh | Is 57:1 | Scribe | 46195 | ||
I am not sure which group out there says that we are all supposed to be the picture of health. Believing in the Bible stories of how people were healed who had faith in Christ to heal them during his ministry on earth and afterwards in the stories in Acts and other passages does not mean a saint will never get sick. There must needs be sickness that healing be manifest. If there were no sickness there would be no need for healing. But now we see sickness and therefore we still need healing. When that which is perfect is come and we see him face to face in our bodily resurrection then we will have perfect health and there will be no more need for healing. It is pleasing to God for a handicapped person to give their whole heart to Christ and be content to serve Him in their bodily infirmity. It is not Pleasing to God to blame bodily infirmity on God. It is Pleasing to God to have faith. It is never pleasing to God to say God Can't Heal today. God is not limited by any so called "dispensation" a theologian tries to construct. And I am glad for that. How many miracles would have been left undone if God listened to the theologians that we have left the despensation of miracles behind. If you do not believe in healing for today it does not mean you are not saved or cannot be saved. Howbeit I do not see how a saved saint can limit the Grace and Power of God and think to themselves "God is not willing to heal" and think that they are not possibly at some fault in thinking so. It only takes a casual reading of the Gospels to see that a lesson seems to be repeated over and over again, "Have Faith in God" and in nearly every account the lesson is "having faith in God to do the impossible" Calm the stormy wind with His Word, Open blind eyes that were blind from birth, heal the incurable leper whose flesh was already gone, heal a lame man lame forty years whos legs were not doubt atrophied, Raise the dead and reverse the effects of rigormortus, And such things were not only done by Jesus but he sent the apostles to do the same, and not the apostles only but we see even men such as Phillip the evangelist and one of the seven deacons who reveal the qualification of these signs and wonders in that it was said they were mean full of FAITH and the HOLY GHOST. And all this agrees with Mark 16 of which some would like to rip from the pages of their bibles but nevertheless it remains to this day.. "these signs shall follow them that believe.. they shall lay hands on the sick and the sick shall be healed." Yes God can heal a wheel chair bound person today and it does not matter if her legs are atrophied by disuse any more than it did when Peter said.. silver and Gold have I none but such as I have give I thee, in the name of Jesus Rise up and walk!" But when Jesus comes back will He find faith on the earth? Or will he find a church that has constructed religous sounding nice explanations about why we should not have faith for such things today. A people that will say they have faith in a God who is far off and of whom they do not expect anything today is lip service and demonstrates no faith at all. It is one thing to say God if it be they will heal me one day in the future. It is another to go out on a limb and say I believe I receive RIGHT NOW and expect something to happen. CONTINUED NEXT POST |
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169 | Thorn in the flesh | Is 57:1 | Scribe | 46197 | ||
CONTINUED FROM PREVIOUS POST But then what if I don't get it? you say? This is not the kind of faith that recieves healing. The faith that recieves from God is the faith that will not be denied. Consider the parable of the widow and the unjust Judge, it is in this context that Jesus said when the Son of Man returns will he find faith on the earth. The answer to most scholars is that of a negative. No. Well some yes but not as it should be. Few will have this faith of this widow that keeps coming back and will not be denied what is hers. I see this as very pleasing to God. Let the theologians that know more than you tell you that God expects us to go by the word today and does not need to manifest miracles, as these signs were only for confirming the message of the apostles until the word of God was written (howbeit they had the scriptures always) Let the doubtful and fearful and unbelieving think what they will, but be different in these last days and declare that you will be a believer in God and His power on earth and not just in Heaven. Be different and say God you are no respector of persons and you change not, if faith moved you then then faith will move you today. I will cryout to God to recieve healing, wisdom, spiritual growth, and all things I need for life and godliness and I will not be denied, even as this widow would not be denied and you asked when Jesus comes again will He find such a one. I would have you say, here am I Lord, find me!! What do you think it is more pleasing to God to say I believe! or I doubt. It is always God's will to bless the beleiver, even when it was not the plan of God to send Jesus to any but the lost sheep of the House of Israel the woman that came to Him said Truth Lord but the dogs eat of the crumbs, as if she was saying You are so Great I only need a crumb and my daughter will be healed. And what was the answer of Christ to her? Was it "it is not the will of God" for in all truth it was not at this time the will of God. But Faith moved God to grant it anyway!!! Oh my dear brothers and sisters, let not your faith be quenched by the sad stories or soft words of well meaning but carnal thinking man. Rise up in faith and lay hold if it were on just the hem of His garment and you shall be healed. May God Bless you in your study of His Word. |
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170 | Thorn in the flesh | Is 57:1 | Scribe | 46198 | ||
Continued from previous post Believing in the Bible stories of how people were healed who had faith in Christ to heal them during his ministry on earth and afterwards in the stories in Acts and other passages does not mean a saint will never get sick. There must needs be sickness that healing be manifest. If there were no sickness there would be no need for healing. But now we see sickness and therefore we still need healing. When that which is perfect is come and we see him face to face in our bodily resurrection then we will have perfect health and there will be no more need for healing. It is pleasing to God for a handicapped person to give their whole heart to Christ and be content to serve Him in their bodily infirmity. It is not Pleasing to God to blame bodily infirmity on God. It is Pleasing to God to have faith. It is never pleasing to God to say God Can't Heal today. God is not limited by any so called "dispensation" a theologian tries to construct. And I am glad for that. How many miracles would have been left undone if God listened to the theologians that we have left the despensation of miracles behind. If you do not believe in healing for today it does not mean you are not saved or cannot be saved. Howbeit I do not see how a saved saint can limit the Grace and Power of God and think to themselves "God is not willing to heal" and think that they are not possibly at some fault in thinking so. It only takes a casual reading of the Gospels to see that a lesson seems to be repeated over and over again, "Have Faith in God" and in nearly every account the lesson is "having faith in God to do the impossible" Calm the stormy wind with His Word, Open blind eyes that were blind from birth, heal the incurable leper whose flesh was already gone, heal a lame man lame forty years whos legs were not doubt atrophied, Raise the dead and reverse the effects of rigormortus, And such things were not only done by Jesus but he sent the apostles to do the same, and not the apostles only but we see even men such as Phillip the evangelist and one of the seven deacons who reveal the qualification of these signs and wonders in that it was said they were mean full of FAITH and the HOLY GHOST. And all this agrees with Mark 16 of which some would like to rip from the pages of their bibles but nevertheless it remains to this day.. "these signs shall follow them that believe.. they shall lay hands on the sick and the sick shall be healed." Yes God can heal a wheel chair bound person today and it does not matter if her legs are atrophied by disuse any more than it did when Peter said.. silver and Gold have I none but such as I have give I thee, in the name of Jesus Rise up and walk!" But when Jesus comes back will He find faith on the earth? Or will he find a church that has constructed religous sounding nice explanations about why we should not have faith for such things today. A people that will say they have faith in a God who is far off and of whom they do not expect anything today is lip service and demonstrates no faith at all. It is one thing to say God if it be they will heal me one day in the future. It is another to go out on a limb and say I believe I receive RIGHT NOW and expect something to happen. But then what if I don't get it? you say? This is not the kind of faith that recieves healing. The faith that recieves from God is the faith that will not be denied. Continued on next post |
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171 | Thorn in the flesh | Is 57:1 | Scribe | 46199 | ||
Continued from previous post Consider the parable of the widow and the unjust Judge, it is in this context that Jesus said when the Son of Man returns will he find faith on the earth. The answer to most scholars is that of a negative. No. Well some yes but not as it should be. Few will have this faith of this widow that keeps coming back and will not be denied what is hers. I see this as very pleasing to God. Let the theologians that know more than you tell you that God expects us to go by the word today and does not need to manifest miracles, as these signs were only for confirming the message of the apostles until the word of God was written (howbeit they had the scriptures always) Let the doubtful and fearful and unbelieving think what they will, but be different in these last days and declare that you will be a believer in God and His power on earth and not just in Heaven. Be different and say God you are no respector of persons and you change not, if faith moved you then then faith will move you today. I will cryout to God to recieve healing, wisdom, spiritual growth, and all things I need for life and godliness and I will not be denied, even as this widow would not be denied and you asked when Jesus comes again will He find such a one. I would have you say, here am I Lord, find me!! What do you think it is more pleasing to God to say I believe! or I doubt. It is always God's will to bless the beleiver, even when it was not the plan of God to send Jesus to any but the lost sheep of the House of Israel the woman that came to Him said Truth Lord but the dogs eat of the crumbs, as if she was saying You are so Great I only need a crumb and my daughter will be healed. And what was the answer of Christ to her? Was it "it is not the will of God" for in all truth it was not at this time the will of God. But Faith moved God to grant it anyway!!! Oh my dear brothers and sisters, let not your faith be quenched by the sad stories or soft words of well meaning but carnal thinking man. Rise up in faith and lay hold if it were on just the hem of His garment and you shall be healed. May God Bless you in your study of His Word. |
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172 | Thorn in the flesh | Is 57:1 | Scribe | 46207 | ||
I understand your skepticism as a result of an unscrupulous or even false prophets that will continue and increase in these last days. However let us consider the Word of God as our only rule of faith and practice as it pertains to doctrine of healing. Now we see Jesus the apostles and non apostles such as Phillip, and others doing signs and wonders, never bringing glory to themselves but to the name and faith of Jesus Christ. Never once did they say this will only last until the John writes Revelation so to say so is a guess on our part and not a word from the Lord. We see in the scripture God's method was to use men to lay hands or other acts of faith. Stacking them up like cord wood? I don't know about that but I do see in the Bible that they gathered along the way so that just Peter's shadow passing by would be a point of contact for them and did the Glory go to Peter? Well the catholics would say so but we know better, the glory always went to Christ. We see Paul having handkerchiefs (sweat cloths) taken from his body and used as pointd of contact , points of faith so that those that touched them were healed. Why does God need laying on of hands from a man or a cloth or a shadow of a man to heal? He chose to use man to minister the things of God. The man is not the power the Lord is. God chose to use praying as a means of obtaining from God what we desire. Doesn't God know what we need before we ask? Yes but he still waits for us to ask in faith before He gives it. God has chosen the foolishness of preaching the Gospel to save them that believe. Can God save a man without another preaching to him, sure but somewhere along the way even if it is from the bible alone, someone preached. That God chooses laying on of hands or other such means, yes even prayer cloths or shadows passing by to heal the one with faith in Christ is not for us to complain about. God knows what He is doing. If you are following the pattern of the Word then you can have faith for laying on of hands, a shadow of a faith filled man passing by or even cloths sent from his body in faith. If you are making up your own ideas how can you have faith for that? The Holy Spirit is always speaking faith, never does the Holy Spirit say doubt. If doubt comes into our minds it is not the voice of the Spirit. Is there a precedence of New Testament stories of peoples being healed alone with no point of contact from other believers? Maybe you can find one somewhere but is not the obvious pattern that of "faith to faith?" Even as I write these words I pray that there will be someone somewhere in all the world that will begin to believe God as never before and that my faith will affect their faith and that we may be comforted together by the mutual faith of both them and I. May God Bless you in your Study of His Word. |
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173 | Thorn in the flesh | Is 57:1 | Scribe | 46475 | ||
I am interested in your thoughts on binding and loosing. Is it as my charismatic friends understand it, to bind and loose spiritual powers as it were or is it about forgiveness. Or is it both. Does it have to do with asking the Lord to forgive a person that has wronged you adn thus giving that person a greater chance of salvation? So that when a saint prays and intercedes and asks the Lord to save and deliver people they are loosing, and if they hold someone accountable for their wrong doing they are binding? Or is it that of saying "I bind the spirit of alcohol" and such like that I often hear, but do not see an example of in the scripture. I am interested in scriptural dialog about this. Thanks | ||||||
174 | Thorn in the flesh | Is 57:1 | Scribe | 46557 | ||
All that you have stated is true that is what I normally see when I hear my brothers and sisters in the Charismatic church praying and binding and loosing. This is why I do not have a problem with the application they use of binding and loosing. If they are praying for someone to be free from the bondage of anything and they are praying that God will bless them with His liberty and they are full of the Love of God and Faith by being filled with the Spirit, it does not matter much the exact words they are using. If they are saying binding and loosing then I do not really care. But if that is what these verses mean I can not see it. Becuase I do not see Paul or others ever praying that way. It seems to me that there is an authority given to saints from these verses but my understanding cannot seem to get it. I see that if I pray for the brother to be free from alcohol and I pray that this brother be holy and know that power of Christ that is in him as a result of faith that I am accomplishing the same thing in the spirit realm that the brother who says I BIND, and I Loose thinks he is doing. I only see satan addressed a few times and told get behind me or the Lord rebuke you and it never seems to be while the saint is praying as I see it done so often by the charismatics. Don't get me wrong I believe in the Gifts of the Holy Spirit for the Church as defined in the NT but I don't see an example of saints addressing satan in one breath and praying to the Father in another while in coorporate prayer. As a matter of fact this sort of bothers me. However I do not think God is limited by such things, He still hears the heart and faith of the praying saints that are doing this. I think praying "God grant thy children boldness" is scriptural but then in the next breath saying "We bind the spirit of fear" seems somewhat senseless. If it causes the saint to have faith I suppose it has value, but where can I see in the scripture that saying "I bind the spirit of fear" does anything that "God grant me boldness" has not already accomplished. If the binding and loosing verses mean what the charismatics think, then I want to do it. If the authority that is given to saint when Jesus says whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven (and I do not see the greek saying "must already be bound in heaven") is an authority that is over the powers of darkness which would fit the often mentioned promises of Christ to the believer then do I exercise it in instances of say demon possession, casting them out? WOW! I just had a revelation! Jesus was talking about binding the strongman. In that context he was saying He was greater than the devil, and John repeats this when he says Greater is He that is in you than He that is in the world. I think I am seeing it as I write these words. This has to do with a legal battle. The devil is the accuser. The power the devil has is legal the devil can do things or is allowed to do things through legal accusation. We can bind his access to a heavenly realm or courtroom of accusation. WOW!!! Consider the story of Job. Consider the passage about satan being cast down in Rev not allowed to accuse the saints before God (some heavenly level). We can file motions as it were to keep the devil barred from entering in the courtroom to accuse a brother that has sinned against us? I think there are things going on in the spirit realm that we effect in prayer and intercession even if we do not use the words binding and loosing. And also there is something to the context about kicking out the one that will not repent. So when he goes out from the church after given every chance the Lord lets satan do things to his life that he was once protected from with the hope that the brother will repent and come back having been disciplined by the misery of sin. The spiritual darkness that want to destroy may be held back not by his past relationship with God but on our account that walk with God, so when we tell him go out of the church and do not comeback until you are ready to repent only then can the powers of darkness do what they want with him. This is very sobering. |
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175 | help | Is 61:1 | Scribe | 43621 | ||
Isaiah 61:1-3 The Spirit of the Lord GOD is upon me; because the LORD hath anointed me to preach good tidings unto the meek; he hath sent me to bind up the brokenhearted, to proclaim liberty to the captives, and the opening of the prison to them that are bound; To proclaim the acceptable year of the LORD, and the day of vengeance of our God; to comfort all that mourn; To appoint unto them that mourn in Zion, to give unto them beauty for ashes, the oil of joy for mourning, the garment of praise for the spirit of heaviness; that they might be called trees of righteousness, the planting of the LORD, that he might be glorified. You will notice that Jesus read this passage in a synagogue and said that he was fulfilling it. But Jesus closed the book just before the mention of the day of vengeance. So we are still in that that part of the passage prior to the day of vengeance. When the day of vengeance begins then the rest of the passage will be fulfilled. This also is a great example of how prophecies do have more than one application and will skip generations from one sentence to the next. So when someone trys to establish a prophetic time table on a verse it is not always correct. The prophecy might have skipped 2000 years between two sentences and the reader is not aware of it. Luke 4:16-19 And he came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up: and, as his custom was, he went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and stood up for to read. And there was delivered unto him the book of the prophet Esaias. And when he had opened the book, he found the place where it was written, The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised, To preach the acceptable year of the Lord. Luke 4:21-22 And he began to say unto them, This day is this scripture fulfilled in your ears. |
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176 | she brought forth her children? | Is 66:12 | Scribe | 85615 | ||
Isaiah 66:12 For thus saith the LORD, Behold, I will extend peace to her like a river, and the glory of the Gentiles like a flowing stream: then shall ye suck, ye shall be borne upon her sides, and be dandled upon her knees. You ask good questions. This whole chapter is one to meditate on often. It is an example of the type of passages in the prophets that are the foundation for the scriptures in the New Testament. This prophecy is all about the conversion of the Gentiles through the Man Child that would be born in Israel, the relationship of Jerusalem to the church, both in it’s origins and it’s heritage, and the coming of judgment upon those that rejected the Lord, with the glorification of the church before their eyes. This chapter covers big picture thinking concerning the plan of God from the birth of Christ, the beginning of the church which came about as it were in a day with Pentecost and the future creation of a new heaven and earth. The beginning of the chapter is all about how that God is not pleased with the legal works of the Jew but is seeking the humble repentant heart of faith instead, and will accept such a heart whether found in Jew or Gentile. This is one of my favorite chapters in the whole Bible if I could bring myself to find a favorite. Every time I hear a preacher go on and on about his new satellite dish that is going to save the world or some new building program that will save the city, I think about this verse, and I want to tell the man about it. Isaiah 66:1-2 Thus saith the LORD, The heaven is my throne, and the earth is my footstool: where is the house that ye build unto me? (where is the church building that you would build big enough to house my glory?) and where is the place of my rest? (Where is the satellite advanced enough to take the place of the Holy Spirit in the heart of men?) For all those things hath mine hand made, and all those things have been, (We have had TV, and Radio, and Buildings and other ideas for many decades, but that is not God’s method and never has been) saith the LORD: but to this man will I look, even to him that is poor and of a contrite spirit, and trembleth at my word. (God’s method is a man, broken and repentant, emptied of self, and filled with the Holy Spirit.) This is how we will turn our world upside down like they did in Acts, without technology or expensive buildings. |
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177 | she brought forth her children? | Is 66:12 | Scribe | 85621 | ||
Please meditate on Isaiah 66, that is where the revelation is at, not anything I wrote. :) God Bless You as You Study It. | ||||||
178 | The form of Godliness? | Jeremiah | Scribe | 86017 | ||
2 Timothy 3:4-5 ...lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away. Those that may pretend to be religious but in works they deny the Lord. Titus 1:16 They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate. They are those that seem to not comprehend (reprobate) the connection between living holy and knowing God. They pretend they know God and "can" know God while being full of lust seeking fleshly indulgences. |
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179 | How does the church respond to abuse? | Jer 5:31 | Scribe | 86515 | ||
This is a good example of the differences we experience among different denomoniations and groups among those that we call the church. Of all the churches I have fellowshipped with since I was born again, the pastor would have told you to leave and include the law to help protect you and your family, and also provided a place to live while you needed it. Of all the churches that I have belonged to they would have said that this man needed to be born again. We do not believe that a born again saint will abuse his family. A born again man can fall into sin, but will not stay there and must be dealt with as soon as they surface if the man is sincere with the Lord. So it is sad that you experienced such darkness among those that would call themselves saints. I have never known a christian that interpreted the submission scriptures as an excuse to abuse their wives or family. I know it happens but I have never fellowshipped with such people. The churches I have been a part of rightly understood this as a voluntary submission in matters of spiritual leadership and even then the wife's opinion is well respected and decisions are not made without her agreement. Those that belligerantly make important decisions whether the wife agrees or not have always been told in my churches that they were wrong and were misinterpreting the submission scriptures. So you see how I have never seen this as a "big" problem in the church, becuase I have never seen this in the church. If a person fellowships with some denominations and "churches" they will think there is an important need to proove that Homosexuals should not be allowed to preach in the pulpit. When others hear about it they are almost speachless with shock and incredulous wonder that anyone would ever even think it is worth arguing about. If a church is so blind as to argue about that, or to discuss it as a possiblity then they are not the Church at all, they are some group of men that are calling themselves a church but are not even born again. So it is with this question of abuse. Do we really need a movement to convince pastors that they should intervene and help women being abused, and quit telling them to submit to it? No, the true church is shocked that an idiot would suggest such a thing to you. The answer is to find a real church with a real pastor that is really called by God to pastor, a shepherd of the sheep who feeds them the Word of God and is anointed by the Holy Spirit to rightly interpret the word of God. It does not take a theologian to know that you should not submit to abuse. May God Bless You as You Grow in His Word. |
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180 | How does the church respond to abuse? | Jer 5:31 | Scribe | 86516 | ||
On a follow-up to my previous post, I would also add that I do not say this is not a need to be dealt with by society in general. Certainly it is. There are many organizations that are working hard at exposing this problem and helping women break free from the bondage they are in. What I was addressing in the previous post was that if you get with the right churches you will see that they would be horrified that a pastor would not help you. Should we try and educate that pastor and those churches that hold such views as "that a woman should submit to abuse"? It is a lossing battle. You are putting the cart before the horse. This pastor just needs to get saved. Should we try and argue with someone that says a Practising Homosexual should be allowed to pastor? No! We should give them a gospel tract and stick to the message about salvation, they are not saved that would argue such a thing. They are either reprobate or confused and need to know about how to be saved. There are many churches that have homes and ministries for abused women and will help them with legal, housing, and other needs. | ||||||
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