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161 | Bible Study? | Bible general | EdB | 243976 | ||
Welcome Douglas This forum is a Bible Study building a Study Bible. May I suggest you pick a Book, Chapter or verse and make a comment or ask a question and the Study of that chosen passage will begin. Remember since there is no designated moderator it will be up to you to keep the Study moving forward in a productive manner. Not to discourage you but the layout of the forum makes it very difficult to discuss most anything without controversy and bickering, but with God all things are possible. |
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162 | Isn't it time to say good night? | Bible general | EdB | 244001 | ||
Justme I totally agree, once denominational agendas become common place true Bible Study stops. It is a sad to see since I was a charter member and at the inception of this forum everyone involved had very high hopes for the forum. We even tried to keep it free of denominational bickering by instituting rules. However they got cast to wind and we arrived to the place we find ourselves today. Sad indeed! |
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163 | Isn't it time to say good night? | Bible general | EdB | 244002 | ||
I totally agree Justme. How very very sad! | ||||||
164 | Isn't it time to say good night? | Bible general | EdB | 244006 | ||
Yes it is a shame! | ||||||
165 | you must... we must ... | Bible general Archive 4 | EdB | 225956 | ||
In what translation? In the NASB Matthew 16:24 (NASB) 24 Then Jesus said to His disciples, "If anyone wishes to come after Me, he must deny himself, and take up his cross and follow Me. Matthew 24:4-6 (NASB) 4 And Jesus answered and said to them, "See to it that no one misleads you. 5 "For many will come in My name, saying, 'I am the Christ,' and will mislead many. 6 "You will be hearing of wars and rumors of wars. See that you are not frightened, for those things must take place, but that is not yet the end. Luke 4:42-43 (NASB) 42 When day came, Jesus left and went to a secluded place; and the crowds were searching for Him, and came to Him and tried to keep Him from going away from them. 43 But He said to them, "I must preach the kingdom of God to the other cities also, for I was sent for this purpose." John 4:21-24 (NASB) 21 Jesus *said to her, "Woman, believe Me, an hour is coming when neither in this mountain nor in Jerusalem will you worship the Father. 22 "You worship what you do not know; we worship what we know, for salvation is from the Jews. 23 "But an hour is coming, and now is, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth; for such people the Father seeks to be His worshipers. 24 "God is spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth." John 9:3-5 (NASB) 3 Jesus answered, "It was neither that this man sinned, nor his parents; but it was so that the works of God might be displayed in him. 4 "We must work the works of Him who sent Me as long as it is day; night is coming when no one can work. 5 "While I am in the world, I am the Light of the world." John 12:23-26 (NASB) 23 And Jesus *answered them, saying, "The hour has come for the Son of Man to be glorified. 24 "Truly, truly, I say to you, unless a grain of wheat falls into the earth and dies, it remains alone; but if it dies, it bears much fruit. 25 "He who loves his life loses it, and he who hates his life in this world will keep it to life eternal. 26 "If anyone serves Me, he must follow Me; and where I am, there My servant will be also; if anyone serves Me, the Father will honor him. John 4:21-24 (NASB) 21 Jesus *said to her, "Woman, believe Me, an hour is coming when neither in this mountain nor in Jerusalem will you worship the Father. 22 "You worship what you do not know; we worship what we know, for salvation is from the Jews. 23 "But an hour is coming, and now is, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth; for such people the Father seeks to be His worshipers. 24 "God is spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth." |
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166 | will suiside send you to hell | Bible general Archive 4 | EdB | 226040 | ||
Scripture does not speak of the eternal state of a person that commits suicide. Some firmly believe they are condemned to eternal damnation. Others believe that if they were saved they will be saved even after committing suicide. Two things I think about. First we can't know what takes place in the mind of someone that commits suicide and in particular their last moment. Is it possible they reached out to God? Secondly suicide to me is a sign of hopelessness. Can a person that is truly in Christ feel that much hopelessness? Shouldn't Christ Himself be hope enough to prevent suicide. I would never tell someone I was certain they could commit suicide and spend eternity in God's presence. Just as I would never tell the family of a suicide victim their loves was confined to eternal damanation. That is God's decision not mine. |
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167 | What sin does GOD not forgive | Bible general Archive 4 | EdB | 226045 | ||
The rejection of Jesus Christ as our only Lord and Saviour | ||||||
168 | will suiside send you to hell | Bible general Archive 4 | EdB | 226106 | ||
Suicide. No special law is found against this crime, for it is included in the prohibition against killing. Contrary to the practice and the philosophy of paganism, the act was held in deep abhorrence by the Hebrews because of the high value placed on human life. It was held inexcusable that any but the most degraded and satanic should lay hands on their own lives. Only the remorse of the damned could drive one to it, as witness Saul (1 Samuel 31:4) and Judas (Matthew 27:5). Frank E. Hirsch, The International Standard Bible Encyclopedia, ed. James Orr (Chicago: Howard-Severance Co., 1915), s.v. “CRIME; CRIMES,” WORDsearch CROSS e-book. Suicide by definition is the murder of oneself. Exodus 20:13 (NASB) 13 "You shall not murder. Now to me there is something very telling in your account above. You said you didn't think about Jesus you only thought about your situation. Again I come back to my original comment suicide is based on a feeling of hopelessness and a person that has true faith in Christ isn't hopeless. You said you knew Jesus but you weren't thinking about him. I think what you had was head knowledge of Jesus but you hadn't yet given yourself fully to Him or Jesus would have been on your mind. Again I'm saying this from someone that has never been in that situation, however I do know that once you are fully and truly in Christ He does inhabit your thoughts. I wish I could produce scripture that says thou shall not commit suicide but as noted above it isn't in scripture. |
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169 | will suiside send you to hell | Bible general Archive 4 | EdB | 226148 | ||
If you asking me or anyone else to play God and pronounce where this person or that person is spending eternity we simply can't do that. But it isn't we really don't know situation as much as here is what we do know. We know someone that is really in Christ isn't going to murder, likewise they aren't going to commit suicide as suicide is murdering oneself. We also know that suicide is done out of hopelessness and again someone that is truly in Christ isn't hopeless because Christ is their hope. But we must be ever mindful, scripture tells us only God is able to see our true hearts. |
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170 | will suiside send you to hell | Bible general Archive 4 | EdB | 226151 | ||
You and I both know that is a theological question has been batted back and forth for thousands of years. The question really is will a truly saved person willfully and intentionally commit a sinful act from which they have no recourse? I don't think so, but again we humans are funny people. What we are discussing is far different than losing our temper and calling someone a fool. Be that as it may I'm told suicide is an act of hopelessness and I fail to see how a person that is truly in Christ can feel hopeless. To me that is an oxymoron. |
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171 | Should christians celebrate Valentine? | Bible general Archive 4 | EdB | 226214 | ||
Actually Valentines Day was to honor a martyr a cleric named Valentine and was celebrated by all Christians since the Catholic Church was the only church at the time. It wasn't until the Reformation about 1200 years later that the division between Catholic and Protestant was made. Valentine was a Christian martyr that got on the wrong side of Rome by holding Christian weddings. He was interrogated by the Caesar Claudius and tried to convert Claudius which infuriated Claudius to condemn Valentine to death. Before his execution he prayed for the jailer’s daughter who was blind and it is said God healed her. It was these two acts, acts of love; one of bringing people together in marriage and the other praying for someone while being readied to execution that is why the Christian church chose to honor him. |
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172 | where is Christ battling Satan in HELL | Bible general Archive 4 | EdB | 226243 | ||
Jesus didn't go to Hell(Hades) to battle Satan but to preach the "Good News" to the rigtheous dead that resided in Abraham's bosom or paradise. Eph 4:8 Hell (Hades) as seen in Luke 16:19-31 and through Jewish teaching is the holding place for the dead. The unrighteous go to a hot dry place to await judgement and the righteous before Christ went to place called Abraham's bosom or Paradise. Since Jesus' resurrection the righteous dead now go directly to heaven to be with the Lord 2 Cor. 5:6-8. Further Satan was never in Hell(Hades) nor does he have any desire to be there. The hot dry side is filled with the unrighteous dead that are already lost so Satan doesn't care about them at all. The teaching that Jesus went to Hell and fought Satan is a fanasty invented by people that haven't fully read their Bible and have no idea what Jesus' work on the cross really meant and more importantly what it accomplished. The idea that Satan is in charge of hell is an idea birthed in Islam which is a false religion. |
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173 | where is Christ battling Satan in HELL | Bible general Archive 4 | EdB | 226247 | ||
Is Abraham's bosom empty or not? When we die do we go to Hades as we did before Christ or do we go to into His presence. If you say it is empty then someone had to empty it. I believe the Apostle's creed (thus the teachng of the early church) more or less confirms it was done by Jesus. Or do you think Luke 16:19-31 is made up to fit a parable? Howevere that becomes problematic since the Jews believed this before Jesus told the parable. I fail to believe Jesus would mislead them by using something they believed if it weren't true. So I fail to understand what you question? |
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174 | where is Christ battling Satan in HELL | Bible general Archive 4 | EdB | 226249 | ||
Luke 16:19-31 definitely teaches a separation in Hell(hades) as does the Jewish Talmud and oral traditions. The Old Testament righteous definitely died looking for and trusting their Messiah but to think that alone saved them negates Jesus' proclaimation that He alone was the door. To enter through a door the door must exist and while Jesus is eternal the door he provided did not exist until the second covenant came into being. The early church believed Jesus went to Hell(hades) as evidenced by the Apostles creed. Now we realize the early church fathers weren't scripture but if we discount their teaching then we have to question why Jesus ever commissioned teachers. Paul was a teacher first and scripture writter second. Now if we accept Paul's teaching that those that died after Christ go into the presence of the Lord then we have to believe the righteous dead of the Old Testament had to have some kind of entrance into heaven. If they were in Abraham's bosom at the time Jesus told Luke 16:19-31 then we have to believe someone led them to heaven. I don't see any way to ignore Luke 16:19-31 I can't believe Jesus would virtually repeat the Jewish teaching on Hades if it weren't true. To the Jew they would have to take it as being a confirmation of what they already believed. |
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175 | where is Christ battling Satan in HELL | Bible general Archive 4 | EdB | 226253 | ||
I guess if you are going to summarily discount the Talmud and Jewish oral tradition that agrees with the desciption of Hades found in Luke 16:19-31 because they are from uninspired writers any further discussion on the subject is pointless. As for preexisting thoughts I never had any on the subject I viewed Luke 16 as a parable and never looked for any reality to confirm or deny it. I was doing research on Jewish teaching, in particular their view of death and eternity, it was from this research I began to understand their belief on the matter. I was then startled to learn that this newly discovered (by me) Jewish concept of Hades actually paralleled exactly Luke 16:19-31. So call it what you want but don't try to blame it on preexisting thoughts. I can definitively say I had absolutely none on this subject when I entered into this research. Have a great day. |
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176 | where is Christ battling Satan in HELL | Bible general Archive 4 | EdB | 226264 | ||
Beja I'm sorry I hadn't notice any exegesis of Luke 16. I only saw you making statements about things that neither the Jewish Talmud, Luke 16 nor I said. Hades by both the Jewish Talmud and oral tradition is seen as a spiritual reality not some place under the ground as you suggest. I wonder who is speaking from pre existing thoughts? Also the Jews call the place Abraham's bosom Jesus called it paradise (today you will be with me in paradise)which fits the description of Lazarus seen in Abraham's bosom. How does a man get into the bosom of a another? Unless of course it is the name of a place rather than a description of a physical position of the man. As for teaching young Christians something that is off beat, is it not you who claims the Old Testament Saints entered heaven contrary to Jesus' clear edict that to do so you must pass through Him, and that door the Second or New Covenant was not opened yet? Let us be reasonable and hopefully civil about this, it is obvious to all that neither of us are going to change the others mind on the matter. Let us move on. God's richest blessings to you. |
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177 | where is Christ battling Satan in HELL | Bible general Archive 4 | EdB | 226280 | ||
I think if you objectively look at what I said I did base my reply on scripture. My reference to the Talmud was to show the historical view the Jews held of Hades. A view that was exactly as Jesus described in Luke 16:19-31. To me the question then becomes if the Jewish view was incorrect would Jesus in effect reinforce this misview it by painting the same picture? Or is the Jewish view correct and Jesus confirmed it by painting the picture he did in Luke 16:19-31. Again I gave no credence to the Talmud other than as a historical document and I only used it to show what the Jews beleived long before Jesus spoke the parable of Luke 16:19-31. So enlighten me where did I stray from sola scriptura? |
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178 | where is Christ battling Satan in HELL | Bible general Archive 4 | EdB | 226281 | ||
I totally agree we should always reject anything the conflicts with scripture. Scripture is the standard. However in this case the Talmud does not disagree with scripture but confirms scripture. The historical Jewish view of Hades as described in the Talmud and Jewsih oral tradition is nearly identical to the picture painted by our Lord Jesus Christ in Luke 16:19-31. Therefore since the Talmud and oral traditions align with scripture Luke 16:19-31 in this case I don't see a problem. |
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179 | where is Christ battling Satan in HELL | Bible general Archive 4 | EdB | 226286 | ||
I totally agree with Hank's view when scripture is silent. And I think we would all be wise to remember this quote. However on the subject in question, silence is not the case. Jesus clearly painted a word picture of Hades. There are those that say we should discount the picture as only a parable and retain only the lesson the picture taught. Others like myself believe we should view the picture as painted and forgetting the many subtitles of theology accept what we see as a child would. Luke 18:17. If a child were to hear this parable, I believe would see both the picture as painted and hopefully also retain the lesson Jesus developed in the parable. Nothing more, but nothing less. Now if this violates the spirit of the forum, I think not, but if so, I do apologize. |
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180 | where is Christ battling Satan in HELL | Bible general Archive 4 | EdB | 226287 | ||
You are taking a view of Judaism that is not universally taken by all schools of orthodox Christian theology. Your view is called the reformed view and not all share that view of Jews. But no matter, I did not quote the Talmud as an authority on matter but rather to show what the Jews believed before Jesus ever spoke this parable. The real question to me is, if the Jews had a distorted or incorrect view of Hades would Jesus have reinforced it by repeating it in his teaching? I think not. If the view was in fact wrong I would think Jesus would have said you believe this but you are wrong as He often did. However in this case we see no such correction being made. I believe that fact and that fact alone confirms that Jewish view of Hades was indeed correct. And that Jesus included it in his parable because it was known to all the listeners and would make sense to them. Again I did not reference the Talmud as anything other than a historical account of what the Jews already believed. |
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