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141 | Must we be Baptized to enter Heaven | John 4:14 | khuck | 103060 | ||
Hi Ray, Capitalizations do not really mean much to me when I am studying the word or Word (smile). I find that I tend to research the content of the verse and the context of the words. Especially since some words have multiple meanings and may mean one thing in english while meaning another in hebrew or greek. Therefore I compare commentaries and use resources that translate the language that was being used and the context in which the words were used. I will do my best to explain what and why I believe. in this post. I will start with John 4:10 (Living water) When the Lord was at the well with the woman... This commentary and of course my additional thoughts are the reasonings that makes my belief that this living water, is truly the Spirit. Jesus answered and said to her, "If you knew the gift of God, and who it is who says to you, 'Give Me a drink,' you would have asked Him, and He would have given you living water." When the Lord made the remark "If you knew the gift of God", should not gift be capitalized, since we know that Christ is the Gift of God and that He is the very Life or life that He is speaking about. *** By this living water is meant the Spirit of Grace, "Who" is not like the water he asked for in the bottom of the well, but He is like living or running water, which was much more valuable. The Spirit of grace is as living water. Under this similarity the blessings of the Messiah had been promised in the Old Testament, Isa. 12:3; 35:7; 44:3; 55:1; Zec. 14:8. The graces of the Spirit, and His comforts, satisfy the thirsting soul, that knows its own nature and needs. Jesus Christ can and will give the Holy Spirit to them that ask Him; (remember He answered the woman, "you would have asked Him, and He would have given you living water.") because He received that He might give. Here are additional commentary notes that prove to "me" what I believe. ***Living water: is a reference to the water of life, the spiritual realities that lead to overlasting life in the presence of God. ***Living water: pardoning and justifying grace, every branch of sanctifying grace, and all the supplies of it; called Living Water, because his grace quickens sinners dead in sin, and dead in law, and in, their own apprehensions; and causes them to live in themselves, and before God; and because it refreshes and comforts, revives and cheers, and is like rivers of water in a dry land; and because it maintains and supports spiritual life in their souls; and it ever abides, and continues, and springs up unto everlasting life: for the allusion is to spring water, that bubbles up in a fountain, and is ever running; for such water the Jews call "living water"; see (Genesis 26:19) ; where in the Hebrew text it is "living water"; which we, and also the Chaldee paraphrase, render "springing water". So living waters with them, are said to be always flowing, and never cease. ***Living water:This everlasting water, that is to say, the exceeding love of God, is called "living" or "of life", to make a difference between it and the water that should be drawn out of a well: and these metaphors are frequently used by the Jews. ***Living water: that Christ gives--spiritual life--is struck out of the very depths of our being, making the soul not a vessel, for holding water poured into it from outside of it, but a "fountain" (the word use, to distinguish it from the word used "well" in John 4:11), springing, gushing, bubbling up and flowing forth inside of us, ever fresh, ever living. The indwelling of the Holy Ghost as the Spirit of Christ is the secret of this life with all its enduring energies and satisfactions, as is expressly said (John 7:37-39). "Never thirsting," then, means simply that such souls have the supplies at home, into everlasting life. I will research further the rest of your note and respond accordingly May Gods Peace always remain upon us -Kathy |
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142 | What would Jesus have you do? | John 4:14 | khuck | 103008 | ||
Hello Radioman, And thank you for the warm welcome. It helps me to feel less like I have just bogarded my way into the forum. LOL I love this forum. It causes me to study my beliefs deeper, and to research with more more depth the reasons that I believe as I do. Because of this website I have re-thought some issues, in others my belief has been solidified, and some I have had new avenues of learning and understanding opened to me. I have been studying and using Christian resources that I have saved, stored and marked on this little laptop like nobody's business. I will confess that I had to knock the dust and cobwebs off of a few. (grin) This forum has been a great help to me and I appreciate all of you who participate in it. AND I DO MEAN EVERYONE :) -kathy P.S. One day I will have the audacity to ask my little question. |
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143 | Must we be Baptized to enter Heaven | John 4:14 | khuck | 103005 | ||
Misunderstanding?? I do not believe that anyone here has stated that we reject baptism, obviously most if not all of us have been baptized in material water. The point we are responding to is Stevens "ORIGINAL" question in this thread which was, "Must we be baptized (in material water)to enter into Heaven.?" We were responding as to why it was not necessary to ensure one's salvation or enter into the Kingdom of God. We also listed the instances when it is impossible to be baptized (and still there is no danger of salvation lost or Heaven's doors being shut in your face). All these being true if you have received the Baptism of the Holy Spirit. God's Peace be upon us! -khuck |
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144 | PROVE ME: God's challenge to tithers | Bible general Archive 2 | khuck | 102988 | ||
Hi EdB You Said "If you want to know financial freedom in your life, real freedom begin tithing if you haven't already and continue if you do, you will no longer be a slave to money." I AGREE WITH this so so MUCH. And it is the reason that I tithe. Because whether the command is for the Jews or the Church is not the issue, but for me God's promises hold true thoughout any dispensation. And I agree with you on this one thing: God's promise still remains. Malachi 3 10-12...Test me in this," says the LORD Almighty, "and see if I will not throw open the floodgates of heaven and pour out so much blessing that you will not have room enough for it. 11 I will prevent pests from devouring your crops, and the vines in your fields will not cast their fruit," says the LORD Almighty. 12 "Then all the nations will call you blessed, for yours will be a delightful land," says the LORD Almighty. (God did not say that we rob Him in tithes alone, but he said tithes "AND OFFERING" the church has been commanded to give generously) -khuck |
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145 | Must we be Baptized to enter Heaven | John 4:14 | khuck | 102984 | ||
Hi Larry, I do not reject water baptism. Like you, I was baptized also by water submersion, to symbolize going to the grave and rising again in Christ. I find nothing wrong with this. Yet I am just acknowledging that this is an act of obedience on "my part". Spiritual Baptisim is an act of the Spirit and can not be given to a person, by the act of another person. John baptized with natural water, but he could not give the Baptism of the Holy Spirit. God's Peace be upon us -khuck |
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146 | Must we be Baptized to enter Heaven | John 4:14 | khuck | 102982 | ||
Thank you Justme :) What a beautiful testimony!! |
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147 | Must we be Baptized to enter Heaven | John 4:14 | khuck | 102967 | ||
I am saved and secure in His righteousness. Thank you for your response you have made my point clear:) I was trying to dramatically prove what you wrote so eloquently. Even John the Baptist acknowledge and confessed that the baptism he gave was only the of water. He made clear that Jesus would baptize by the Spirit 12Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God-- 13children born not of natural descent, nor of human decision or a husband's will, but born of God. 26"I baptize with water," John replied, "but among you stands one you do not know. 27He is the one who comes after me, the thongs of whose sandals I am not worthy to untie." 28This all happened at Bethany on the other side of the Jordan, where John was baptizing. 29The next day John saw Jesus coming toward him and said, "Look, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world! 30This is the one I meant when I said, 'A man who comes after me has surpassed me because he was before me.' 31I myself did not know him, but the reason I came baptizing with water was that he might be revealed to Israel." 32Then John gave this testimony: "I saw the Spirit come down from heaven as a dove and remain on him. 33I would not have known him, except that the one who sent me to baptize with water told me, 'The man on whom you see the Spirit come down and remain is he who will baptize with the Holy Spirit.' 34I have seen and I testify that this is the Son of God." -khuck (A Child of God indeed) |
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148 | Must we be Baptized to enter Heaven | John 4:14 | khuck | 102963 | ||
I am not a Christian and I am not saved. Lying in my hospital bed, the chaplain comes to me and tells me that Jesus died for my sins and that he was raised from the dead, that I may live. He witnesses the Gospel to me effectively and I accept this to be the truth. I call upon the name of Jesus asking him to forgive me, asking that I be saved. I confess my sins, and His work on the cross. Then I die... (never having been baptized). I am saved?? -khuck |
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149 | Must we be Baptized to enter Heaven | John 4:14 | khuck | 102961 | ||
Can you please point out where I said that the baptism of John was nonsense? Because if I did say that truly, I'd like to recant. And I apologize to anyone believing that I said something anywhere close to this. It is dangerous for you to reply to me with, "SO YOU ARE SAYING..." In effect you put words in my mouth. I am actually saying what I posted and not what you read into the post and not what you "think" I am saying. I apologize if you took it any other way. -khuck |
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150 | Must we be Baptized to enter Heaven | John 4:14 | khuck | 102956 | ||
Jamieson, Fausset, Brown commentary: Of water and of the Spirit--A twofold explanation of the "new birth," so startling to Nicodemus. To a Jewish ecclesiastic, so familiar with the symbolical application of water, in every variety of way and form of expression, this language was fitted to show that the thing intended was no other than a thorough spiritual purification by the operation of the Holy Ghost. Indeed, element of water and operation of the Spirit are brought together in a glorious evangelical prediction of Ezekiel (Ezekiel 36:25-27), which Nicodemus might have been reminded of had such spiritualities not been almost lost in the reigning formalism. Already had the symbol of water been embodied in an initiatory ordinance, in the baptism of the Jewish expectants of Messiah by the Baptist, not to speak of the baptism of Gentile proselytes before that; and in the Christian Church it was soon to become the great visible door of entrance into "the kingdom of God," the reality being the sole work of the Holy Ghost (Titus 3:5). John gil: except a man be born of water and of the Spirit: these are, (twnv) (twlm) , "two words", which express the same thing, as Kimchi observes in many places in his commentaries, and signify the grace of the Spirit of God. The Vulgate Latin and Ethiopic versions read, "the Holy Spirit", and so Nonnus; and who doubtless is intended: by "water", is not meant material water, or baptismal water; for water baptism is never expressed by water only, without some additional word, which shows, that the ordinance of water baptism is intended: nor has baptism any regenerating influence in it; The baptism that John gave it is not necessary to the kingdom of heaven, or to eternal life and salvation: such a mistaken sense of this text, seems to have given the first birth and rise to infant baptism in the some churches; who taking the words in this bad sense, concluded their children must be baptized, or they could not be saved; whereas by "water" is meant, in a figurative and metaphorical sense, the grace of God, as it is elsewhere; see (Ezekiel 36:25) (John 4:14) . Which is the moving cause of this new birth, and according to which God begets men again to, a lively hope, and that by which it is effected; for it is by the grace of God, and not by the power of man's free will, that any are regenerated, or made new creatures; very pertinently does our Lord make mention of water, it being his own element: regeneration is sometimes ascribed to: to God the Father, as in (1 Peter 1:3) (James 1:18) , to God the Son, (1 John 2:29) and here (John 3:5) to God the Spirit, as in (Titus 3:5) , who convinces of sin, sanctifies, renews, works faith, and every other grace; begins and carries on the work of grace, unto perfection; |
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151 | Did OT saints go to heaven? | Dan 12:2 | khuck | 102918 | ||
ThanX CDBJ... I most definately will :) |
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152 | Don't you just love him? | 2 Cor 12:10 | khuck | 102896 | ||
It's me again Noble, The best way to deal with insults and wrongs committed against us is through God's perfect Love working in us. (The key to these verses is that they are describing God, Who is in fact Love.) "Love endures long and is patient and kind; love never is envious nor boils over with jealousy; it is not boastful or vainglorious, does not display itself haughtily. It is not conceited--arrogant and inflated with pride; it is not rude (unmannerly), and does not act unbecomingly. Love (God's love in us) does not insist on its own rights or its own way, for it is not self-seeking ; it is not touchy or fretful or resentful; it takes no account of the evil done to it--pays no attention to a suffered wrong. It does not rejoice at injustice and unrighteousness , but rejoices when right and truth prevail. Love bears up under anything and everything that comes, is ever ready to believe the best about every person, its hopes are fadeless under all circumstances and it endures everything (without weakening). Love never fails--never fades out or becomes obsolete or comes to an end" (1 Corinthians 13:4-8). This I believe is the whole sum of the answer. Yes... I love Him!!! -kathy |
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153 | Are you onced saved always saved? | John | khuck | 102851 | ||
George! I agree wholeheartedly with you when you say, We must confess our sins and repent. I also agree with the point you made that Christ died once and for all. (I have even said as much in this thread. We have some common ground!!! :) I have read some disturbing post in this day and I have decided it best to drop out of this discussion with you on whether we are saved once and for all. The last post you added brought to mind something that Hank posted about the dangers of "point/counterpoint" becoming personal attacks and moving from the origin of the subject and killing the topics validity. (I hope I did not misquote Hank too much) I am by no means adept at debating and it is not my purpose for posting. I fully accept that you do not agree with the "once saved... always saved" view that I maintain. And I am ok with that :) God's Peace be upon us! -khuck |
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154 | Are you onced saved always saved? | John | khuck | 102850 | ||
George, Since I am one of, if not the blissfully ignorant to the point of downright stupidity... who is the respondent to junmeskie... I think I will respond. I will blissfully die in the foolishness that God chose to confound the wise. Begging to differ with you in that, I have not tried to push any belief or agenda on this forum. I will readily admit that I posted information that was erroneous to what "I" believe to be truth (albeit not in this thread). I am not infallible, but I do maintain my belief. I share it here, with others as I understand it and I listen to their views as they understand. Now I do not profess to be a Bible Scholar, I am just your average, run of the mill, deeply in Love with the Lord and those who choose to proclaim His Gospel, Christian. I have a great love for those who have not heard it. But would you not agree that we are not here to teach, but to encourage study of the Word and whatever we glean from this forum, would it not then become the responsibility of the readers to go back through the scriptures and test and study for themselves? As you stated, "Perhaps I am saved" LOL but of this I am sure His Grace (Mercy) is sufficient for me. Your zeal intrigues me, maybe if you add some Christ Love to it and it may not sound like a lot of clanging symbols. You are making so much noise, it's hard to hear you. (No insult intended) But you come off a little bitter ... and after all of that great apology and quest for forgiveness. Are you angry about something? If I have offended you charge it to my head and not my heart, truly it was unintentional. I ain't mad at ya :) ... and By the way my name is K. Huck. I don't know what difference that makes. LOL Let the measure of love we choose to give one to another be the Love of God. -khuck |
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155 | Did OT saints go to heaven? | Dan 12:2 | khuck | 102847 | ||
The NIV is the translation that I often most use, but I love King James the best! Of course on this forum I am using NIV. I am wrong and your are correct regarding 7 seals. AND might I add... I err in my posting of seven seals for seven scrolls. (Which is an important point) Yet I wrote all of that posting to actually say that I believe that the Body of Christ will be raptured after the sixth seal is opened (broken) and before the seventh. I apologize for the error in my post. Hopefully I did not throw anyone else off of the mark of my objective. I maintain that the great multitude of every nation standing before the throne is the Church. As for me I believe the Great Tribulation takes place after the breaking of the seventh seal... I personally believe the trials faced during the breaking of the 1st five seals are the times we now endure. Why would the Church face God's wrath when they are the righteous of God in Christ. Christ has already endured the penalty of their iniquities. I believe those who endure the plagues in the 7 bowls and those who lived through the tyranny of the anti-christ and beast, called upon the named of the Lord and gave Him His due glory after the rapture. Now I am not responding to say my belief that these are the order of the events, should be yours, I was just responding to a question posed to me, which was; "what do I believe?" And this is really what I believe. -khuck PS I will say that the original post has me totally engrossed in the study of the book of Revelation to the point of re-thinking one of the points that I made... and you have pushed me to search even moreso. Being that it has been quite sometime since I really gave it more than a compulsory reading over... I deem this to be a good thing. Thank you |
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156 | Are you onced saved always saved? | John | khuck | 102827 | ||
Some will have to overcome via the great tribulations. -khuck | ||||||
157 | Did OT saints go to heaven? | Dan 12:2 | khuck | 102824 | ||
Answer Part #3 These I believe to be the O.T. Saints (personal belief)THE VERY NEXT WORDS ARE THESE Rev 14 -1 Then I looked, and there before me was the Lamb, standing on Mount Zion, and with him 144,000 who had his name and his Father's name written on their foreheads. 2And I heard a sound from heaven like the roar of rushing waters and like a loud peal of thunder. The sound I heard was like that of harpists playing their harps. 3And they sang a new song before the throne and before the four living creatures and the elders. No one could learn the song except the 144,000 who had been redeemed from the earth. 4These are those who did not defile themselves with women, for they kept themselves pure. They follow the Lamb wherever he goes. They were purchased from among men and offered as firstfruits to God and the Lamb. 5No lie was found in their mouths; they are blameless. ----After this Son of Man harvests the earth - the tabernacle of the Testimony is opened - Out of the temple came the seven angels with the seven plagues and the were given seven golden bowls filled with the wrath of God. Revelation 16 - the six bowls of God's judgement is poured out upon mankind and the earth and after the 7th bowl is emptied: 17 The seventh angel poured out his bowl into the air, and out of the temple came a loud voice from the throne, saying, "It is done!" 18 Then there came flashes of lightning, rumblings, peals of thunder and a severe earthquake. No earthquake like it has ever occurred since man has been on earth, so tremendous was the quake. 19 The great city split into three parts, and the cities of the nations collapsed. God remembered Babylon the Great and gave her the cup filled with the wine of the fury of his wrath. 20 Every island fled away and the mountains could not be found. 21 From the sky huge hailstones of about a hundred pounds each fell upon men. And they cursed God on account of the plague of hail, because the plague was so terrible. Revelation 17 - The woman and the beast v.5 This title was written on her forehead: MYSTERY BABYLON THE GREAT THE MOTHER OF PROSTITUTES AND OF THE ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH. Rev 18 - Fall of Babylon Rev 19 - Meanwhile at the Lamb's Wedding Supper... the saints are praising and worshipping God. v.9 Then the angel said to me, "Write: 'Blessed are those who are invited to the wedding supper of the Lamb!' " And he added, "These are the true words of God." The appears The King of Kings! 11 I saw heaven standing open and there before me was a white horse, whose rider is called Faithful and True. With justice he judges and makes war. 12 His eyes are like blazing fire, and on his head are many crowns. He has a name written on him that no one knows but he himself. 13 He is dressed in a robe dipped in blood, and his name is the Word of God. 14 The armies of heaven were following him, riding on white horses and dressed in fine linen, white and clean. 15 Out of his mouth comes a sharp sword with which to strike down the nations. "He will rule them with an iron scepter." He treads the winepress of the fury of the wrath of God Almighty. 16 On his robe and on his thigh he has this name written: KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS. Rev 20 – Satan is bound and locked in the abyss - 1 And I saw an angel coming down out of heaven, having the key to the Abyss and holding in his hand a great chain. 2 He seized the dragon, that ancient serpent, who is the devil, or Satan, and bound him for a thousand years. 3 He threw him into the Abyss, and locked and sealed it over him, to keep him from deceiving the nations anymore until the thousand years were ended. After that, he must be set free for a short time. ----Then the Millenium Reign and the dead will be judged… those who came to Christ through the great tribulation. --Satan is released and defeated - --The remaining dead will be judged This is the order in which I feel these things will happen just as it is written -khuck |
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158 | Did OT saints go to heaven? | Dan 12:2 | khuck | 102823 | ||
Answer Part #2 Rev 10 - After the 6th trumpet had been sounded an angel appeared with a small scroll. Before the 7th trumpet was blown: 6 And he (the angel) swore by him who lives for ever and ever, who created the heavens and all that is in them, the earth and all that is in it, and the sea and all that is in it, and said, "There will be no more delay! 7 But in the days when the seventh angel is about to sound his trumpet, the mystery of God will be accomplished, just as he announced to his servants the prophets." 8 Then the voice that I had heard from heaven spoke to me once more: "Go, take the scroll that lies open in the hand of the angel who is standing on the sea and on the land." 9 So I went to the angel and asked him to give me the little scroll. He said to me, "Take it and eat it. It will turn your stomach sour, but in your mouth it will be as sweet as honey." 10 I took the little scroll from the angel's hand and ate it. It tasted as sweet as honey in my mouth, but when I had eaten it, my stomach turned sour. 11Then I was told, "You must prophesy again about many peoples, nations, languages and kings." Rev 11 - The 2 witnesses appear and after that the 7th trupmet is blown. 15 The seventh angel sounded his trumpet, and there were loud voices in heaven, which said: "The kingdom of the world has become the kingdom of our Lord and of his Christ, and he will reign for ever and ever." 16 And the twenty-four elders, who were seated on their thrones before God, fell on their faces and worshiped God, 17 saying: "We give thanks to you, Lord God Almighty, the One who is and who was, because you have taken your great power and have begun to reign. 18 The nations were angry; and your wrath has come. The time has come for judging the dead, and for rewarding your servants the prophets and your saints and those who reverence your name, both small and great--and for destroying those who destroy the earth." 19 Then God's temple in heaven was opened, and within his temple was seen the ark of his covenant. And there came flashes of lightning, rumblings, peals of thunder, an earthquake and a great hailstorm. Rev 12 - The Woman and the Dragon (note the Church has overcome) 10 Then I heard a loud voice in heaven say: Now have come the salvation and the power and the kingdom of our God, and the authority of his Christ. For the accuser of our brothers, who accuses them before our God day and night, has been hurled down. 11 They overcame him by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony; they did not love their lives so much as to shrink from death. 12 Therefore rejoice, you heavens and you who dwell in them! But woe to the earth and the sea, because the devil has gone down to you! He is filled with fury, because he knows that his time is short." Rev 13 -7 He was given power to make war against the saints and to conquer them. And he was given authority over every tribe, people, language and nation. 8 All inhabitants of the earth will worship the beast--all whose names have not been written in the book of life belonging to the Lamb that was slain from the creation of the world. 16 He also forced everyone, small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on his right hand or on his forehead, 17so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of his name. 18 This calls for wisdom. If anyone has insight, let him calculate the number of the beast, for it is man's number. His number is 666. to be continued in 3 post –khuck |
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159 | Did OT saints go to heaven? | Dan 12:2 | khuck | 102822 | ||
Answer Part #1 First you ask if I believed the following... which I take to mean the verses that you quoted. (I belief every Word that proceeds from God's Mouth) I believe the final chapter of the Bible concerning end time events to come in order as John wrote them. I will show you in this 3 part answer why, I believe that the Church will be saved from the Great Tribulation. As far as satan's wrath vs. God's wrath question, I believe these signs after the scrolls, trumpets and golden bowls to be God's righteous judgements and wrath. Starting at Rev. Chapter 6 reading through to Chapter 20 notice that John relays the order in which things will happen by using the words, "And then I Saw..." also he numbers events (ie. 7 scrolls opened by the Lamb, 7 trumpets blown by 7 angels, and the bowls of God's wrath) An event happens after each thing is done, after each scroll is opened one by one... next as each trumpet is sounded one by one and then after the golden bowls of "GOD'S WRATH" are poured out. Rev 6 -The Lamb opens 6 of 7 scrolls Rev 7 -Before the 7th seal is opened these 2 events take place, 144,000 are sealed 1 After this I saw four angels standing at the four corners of the earth, holding back the four winds of the earth to prevent any wind from blowing on the land or on the sea or on any tree. 2Then I saw another angel coming up from the east, having the seal of the living God. He called out in a loud voice to the four angels who had been given power to harm the land and the sea: 3"Do not harm the land or the sea or the trees until we put a seal on the foreheads of the servants of our God." 4Then I heard the number of those who were sealed: 144,000 from all the tribes of Israel. ---And next appearing before the throne are those who have washed the robes in the blood of the Lamb. (Justified and found faultless by no doing of their own, but by their acceptance of the Free gift of salvation and redemption through the blood sacrifice of the Lamb) "The Church is invited to the Wedding Supper as the Bride" 9 After this I looked and there before me was a great multitude that no one could count, from every nation, tribe, people and language, standing before the throne and in front of the Lamb. They were wearing white robes and were holding palm branches in their ands. 10 And they cried out in a loud voice: Salvation belongs to our God, who sits on the throne,and to the Lamb."11 All the angels were standing around the throne and around the elders and the four living creatures. They fell down on their faces before the throne and worshiped God, 12 saying: "Amen! Praise and glory and wisdom and thanks and honor and power and strength be to our God for ever and ever. Amen!" 13Then one of the elders asked me, "These in white robes--who are they, and where did they come from?" 14 I answered, "Sir, you know." 15 And he said, "These are they who have come out of the great tribulation; they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. Therefore, "they are before the Throne of God and serve him day and night in his temple; and he who sits on the throne will spread his tent over them. 16 Never again will they hunger; never again will they thirst. The sun will not beat upon them, nor any scorching heat. 17 For the Lamb at the center of the throne will be their shepherd; he will lead them to springs of living water. And God will wipe away every tear from their eyes." Rev 8-9 ---After the sealing of the 144,000 and the Church are securely before His throne, now the Lamb opens the seal of the 7th scroll. After about 30 minutes of silence the angels with the seven trumpets appear and one angel with a golden censer. Next the angel, who had a golden censer, came and stood at the altar. He was given much incense to offer, with the prayers of all the saints, on the golden altar before the throne. The smoke of the incense, together with the prayers of the saints, went up before God from the angel's hand. Then the angel took the censer, filled it with fire from the altar, and hurled it on the earth; and there came peals of thunder, rumblings, flashes of lightning and an earthquake. Then natural disasters follow each of the first 6 trumpets sounded. To be continued in 2nd post. –khuck |
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160 | How do you deal with insults? | 2 Cor 12:10 | khuck | 102798 | ||
Though my previous post was rather lengthy I would sum it up with the following suggestion for how people can deal with hurt from other Christians. Insults can be very hurtful when they come from within the ranks the Body of believers. Yet it is likely that most of us would not abandon of familys or jobs due to such an insult. When my immediate family members insult me, I don't think to myself, "I am packing my bags, my husband and children are mean." I may be hurting but because my heart and mind are on the bigger picture, I choose to stay and work on the circumstance. (no matter who is wrong) If a patron comes into my salon and they hate their hairstyle, and insult our efforts, I do not close the business. My heart and mind are on the bigger picture. (LIVELIHOOD -LOL) Not only my livelihood but also that of the employees. I work to resolve the complaint to the patron's satisfaction. (no matter who is wrong) Therefore I guess my initial point was that nothing is resolved when we as Christians have hurt one another. Waiting for an apology, bolting from the Church or expelling another true Believer from the assembly will not resolve the conflict. (There is a bigger picture) If Jesus had waited around for an apology from those who hurled verbal insults at Him, or those who criticized His doctrine... we would still be waiting for Him to go to calvary and there would be no ransom paid for our transgressions. But God saw fit to take all that which Jesus endured and He brought it together for the good of mankind, even the whole world. I suggest keeping our eye on Him to the best of our ability in Him. We are more than conquerors, In Christ. Romans 8 27 And he who searches our hearts knows the mind of the Spirit, because the Spirit intercedes for the saints in accordance with God's will. 28 And we know that in all things God works for the good of those who love him, who have been called according to his purpose. Don't you just Love Him? -khuck |
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