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141 | Every NATION or every PERSON? | Matt 24:14 | hobbs | 169288 | ||
Hi Mark, You asked, "But could not God's grace be equally glorified by the salvation of another 1000 souls?" Rom 9:22 What if God, although willing to demonstrate His wrath and to make His power known, endured with much patience vessels of wrath prepared for destruction? Rom 9:23 And He did so to make known the riches of His glory upon vessels of mercy, which He prepared beforehand for glory, Rom 9:27 Isaiah cries out concerning Israel, "THOUGH THE NUMBER OF THE SONS OF ISRAEL BE LIKE THE SAND OF THE SEA, IT IS THE REMNANT THAT WILL BE SAVED; Rom 9:28 FOR THE LORD WILL EXECUTE HIS WORD ON THE EARTH, THOROUGHLY AND QUICKLY." Rom 9:29 And just as Isaiah foretold, "UNLESS THE LORD OF SABAOTH HAD LEFT TO US A POSTERITY, WE WOULD HAVE BECOME LIKE SODOM, AND WOULD HAVE RESEMBLED GOMORRAH." He is glorified in in His justice as well as in His mercy. Did you have a chance to read Piper's article? John |
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142 | Every NATION or every PERSON? | Matt 24:14 | hobbs | 169277 | ||
Dear Mark, John Piper has written on this very issue that you've been discussing. I have found it invaluable in my quest to know God and to think His thoughts after me. http://www.desiringgod.org/library/topics/doctrines_grace/2wills.html God Bless, John |
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143 | Paul's evil practices Pre or PostJesus | Rom 7:19 | hobbs | 169195 | ||
Hi Tim, forgive me if you think that I don't take the Scriptures at face value. I really do. I also strive to understand the context. My biggest roadblock is my own fealty to the doctrines I have learned and love. The tendecy is to read with spectacles shaded with my presuppositions. I pray that the Holy Spirit will grant me fresh eyes when I approch the Word of God; that I may read it as if it were the first time. In my estimation, our disagreement hangs on the tense in which Rom 7:14-25 was written. If it is past tense it is the unregenerate Paul speaking of his old nature. On the other hand, if it is the present tense it is the regenerate Paul speaking of his failures as a new creature. What the article in question did point out was greatly helpful to me, because I had'nt noticed for myself. The following is from Malone's article "The Man in Roman's 7" In Rom. 7:7-13, Paul uses the first person, past tense to recount his pre-conversion state. Before conversion, he was blameless as a law-keeper in his own eyes and before his countrymen (Phil. 3:6). However, when the Tenth Commandment came to his conscience, "Thou shalt not covet," it killed Paul before God. It stirred up his heart, revealed coveting before God, and killed his self-righteous soul sometime before (or when) he looked into the righteous face of Christ on the Damascus road. Rom. 7:7-13 perfectly parallels Paul's past tense description of every Christian's pre-conversion state in 7:5: "For while we were in the flesh, the sinful passions, which were aroused by the Law, were at work in the members of our body, to bear fruit for death." In Paul's unconverted state, God took the Sword of His Holy Law and pierced his heart, unleashing all manner of filth and degradation which killed him before God. There was nothing wrong with the Law. Paul was the problem. In Rom. 7:14-8:4, Paul moves to the first person, present tense. This is a perfect parallel to the shift from the past tense in 7:5 to the present in 7:6: "But now we have been released from the Law, having died to that by which we were bound, so that we serve in newness of the Spirit and not in oldness of the letter." The shift from the past pre-converted state of every believer in 7:5 to the present converted state in 7:6 is illustrated by Paul's personal experience in 7:7-13 and 7:14-8:4 respectively. The man of 7:14-8:4 is described in the first person, present tense. He is Paul as a Christian. If you wish to dicuss this issue further I would be happy to oblige. I've learned much as a result of it. If you prefer to move on, that would be fine with me also. We could revist rom 6:6 and 7:14...I have'nt had the time to really study them and how they relate to the topic at hand. God Bless brother Tim, John |
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144 | Paul's evil practices Pre or PostJesus | Rom 7:19 | hobbs | 169173 | ||
Hi Tim! Please take a look at an article I am perusing. It actually has me revisiting doctrine that I was taking for granted. You will find it at http://founders.org/FJ02/article1_fr.html John |
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145 | Paul's evil practices Pre or PostJesus | Rom 7:19 | hobbs | 169170 | ||
Hi Doc, I tried to email but I can't figure out your address. Please take a look at, what I think, is a great article on The Man in Romans 7. You will find it at http://founders.org/FJ02/article1_fr.html |
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146 | Paul's evil practices Pre or PostJesus | Rom 7:19 | hobbs | 169142 | ||
Dear Tim, Your question has me stumped. That's why I love this forum, it forces you to revisit the foundations of your doctrines. I'm at work now(home office)but I hope to do further study this evening. God Bless, your old friend John |
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147 | Paul's evil practices Pre or PostJesus | Rom 7:19 | hobbs | 169096 | ||
Don't ask how...but I placed this note on the wrong thread. Dear Tim, it may be best to have some back-up from menof great scholarship. On my own I might be representing my position so poorly that you may think me antinomian. First up is my old puritan friend Matthew Henry.He writes: (Verses 18-22) The more pure and holy the heart is, it will have the more quick feeling as to the sin that remains in it. The believer sees more of the beauty of holiness and the excellence of the law. His earnest desires to obey, increase as he grows in grace. But the whole good on which his will is fully bent, he does not do; sin ever springing up in him, through remaining corruption, he often does evil, though against the fixed determination of his will. The motions of sin within grieved the apostle. If by the striving of the flesh against the Spirit, was meant that he could not do or perform as the Spirit suggested, so also, by the effectual opposition of the Spirit, he could not do what the flesh prompted him to do. How different this case from that of those who make themselves easy with regard to the inward motions of the flesh prompting them to evil; who, against the light and warning of conscience, go on, even in outward practice, to do evil, and thus, with forethought, go on in the road to perdition! For as the believer is under grace, and his will is for the way of holiness, he sincerely delights in the law of God, and in the holiness which it demands, according to his inward man; that new man in him, which after God is created in true holiness.(Matthew Henry's Concise Commentary) My Study Bible tells me: There is a sudden change to the present tense in vv 15-25 by contrast with the statemments describing the past in vv 7-13. I confess that I am biased toward thier view, for it coincides with the impression I took for granted the first time I read this chapter, that is it was mainly written in the present tense. Your friend, jOHN |
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148 | Are you prepared for the truth? | Rom 7:7 | hobbs | 169081 | ||
Dear Tim, it may be best to have some back-up from menof great scholarship. On my own I might be representing my position so poorly that you may think me antinomian. First up is my old puritan friend Matthew Henry.He writes: (Verses 18-22) The more pure and holy the heart is, it will have the more quick feeling as to the sin that remains in it. The believer sees more of the beauty of holiness and the excellence of the law. His earnest desires to obey, increase as he grows in grace. But the whole good on which his will is fully bent, he does not do; sin ever springing up in him, through remaining corruption, he often does evil, though against the fixed determination of his will. The motions of sin within grieved the apostle. If by the striving of the flesh against the Spirit, was meant that he could not do or perform as the Spirit suggested, so also, by the effectual opposition of the Spirit, he could not do what the flesh prompted him to do. How different this case from that of those who make themselves easy with regard to the inward motions of the flesh prompting them to evil; who, against the light and warning of conscience, go on, even in outward practice, to do evil, and thus, with forethought, go on in the road to perdition! For as the believer is under grace, and his will is for the way of holiness, he sincerely delights in the law of God, and in the holiness which it demands, according to his inward man; that new man in him, which after God is created in true holiness.(Matthew Henry's Concise Commentary) My Study Bible tells me: There is a sudden change to the present tense in vv 15-25 by contrast with the statemments describing the past in vv 7-13. I confess that I am biased toward thier view, for it coincides with the impression I took for granted the first time I read this chapter, that is it was mainly written in the present tense. Your friend, John |
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149 | Paul's evil practices Pre or PostJesus | Rom 7:19 | hobbs | 169073 | ||
Dear Tim, This is way I see the problem of ongoing sin in the lives of the redeemed. Despite our redemption we are far from perfection. 1 John is clear and unambiguous on that count. In our fleshly nature we continue to be bound by sin, and I would challenge anyone to dispute that fact. One might say that we are now free to be perfectly righteous in our obedience to the law, but it is clear that Paul would certainly not be one of them. Throughout his epistles he preaches a righteousness that is apart from the law, the righteousness that is by faith. Paul contrasts the flesh with the mind. My understanding is that the "mind" is meant to refer to the mind of Christ that we received upon regeneration. That is; the spiritual nature which is an aspect of our being new creatures in Christ. The flesh wars against the spirit and the spirit against the flesh. The new creature doesn’t sin!If one misses this dichotomy, they miss the entire point that Paul was making. I have to get to work. John |
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150 | Paul's evil practices Pre or PostJesus | Rom 7:19 | hobbs | 169058 | ||
7:14 For we know that the Law is spiritual, but I am of flesh, sold into bondage to sin. Christ did not die to redeem our flesh: For the flesh sets its desire against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh; for these are in opposition to one another, so that you may not do the things that you please.Gal 5:17 The flesh is the home of sin and this burden uder which we groan will not be removed until the end of our life or the return of our Lord. 1 John 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we are deceiving ourselves and the truth is not in us. For a christian, any sin is a grievous act and should not be taken lightly. That is why I believe Paul was speaking in the present tense. It seems a hopeless situation until we read the following chapter which begins with "therefore". Beddie Bye time. John |
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151 | Paul's evil practices Pre or PostJesus | Rom 7:19 | hobbs | 169057 | ||
Thanks for the link Doc. john |
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152 | Paul's evil practices Pre or PostJesus | Rom 7:19 | hobbs | 169032 | ||
Hi Doc, 26 years ago God called me to Himself. I as excited and happy as a person could be. I actually thought that my days of sinning were behind me. I was now a Saint! Oh how grand it was for a season. It did'nt last. Before I knew it sin had regained a foothold in life once again. Of course now I had a different reaction to sin than before I knew Christ. I hated my loving of it! No matter how I tried I could not free myself from it's hold. Now don't get me wrong Doc... I was not the man I was, but neither was I than man I had hoped to be either. For years I struggled to be more like the people in the pentacostal church I attended. They appeard to me to be living the victorious life, they had mountain moving faith. We even had a speaker who proclaimed that she had'nt sinned in months. To make a long story short, scandal broke out and boy was it messy...I packed up and stayed shy of church period. I thought I was the lousy sinner! I could'nt hold a candle to these folks. 10 years later, God graciously led me back and planted me in a church that (I have come to believe) proclaims the gospel and teaches sound doctrine. The doctrines of grace changed my life. I said all of that Doc to say this...I love you but ( in my not so humble opinion) you are making a big mistake by backing off on Romans 7. I say this because I am a Romans 7 christian. I identify with Paul the sinner. To follow a diffent path one may find themselves actually believing that they may have something to add to the work of Christ, in my view a disastrous course indeed! I'm nowhere near the scholar you are Doc...but even a blind pig finds a turnip once in awhile. John |
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153 | Paul's evil practices Pre or PostJesus | Rom 7:19 | hobbs | 169026 | ||
I don't know about thr rest of you fellas...but if Tim is right, I'm in a world of hurt! Romans 7 describes me to a T. In fact, this particuler chapter has been of great comfort to me in my pilgrimage here on earth. As a new creature in Christ, it is my desire to please my Lord and glorify Him in everything I say and do. However, not a day goes by that I don't fail miseribly. That which I want to do, I, don't do. As a consequence, I find myself looking to Christ and what He has done on my behalf. I have come to understand there is nothing that I can do to add to or subtract from my salvation. My carnal nature has been crucified with Christ. It is a bonified corpse. When I am weak He is strong. It is no longer I that live, it is Christ living in me. Therfore, I confess my sin; pray for the grace of sanctification; humble myself in the sight of the Lord and give Him all the glory. John |
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154 | Are you prepared for the truth? | Rom 7:7 | hobbs | 168850 | ||
Dear Calos, I pray that God will continue to bless you as you continue to learn more of His magisty and slendor. Just think of it. Even in an eternity of fellowship we will never it know all there is to know about our God and Saviour! But won't it be grand as shows us wonder after wonder. John |
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155 | ... | Is 43:10 | hobbs | 168606 | ||
The problem lies not with the Bible but with the presuppositions which we bring to it. They are imperfect, for we are imperfect. Pro 3:5 Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding Pro 3:6 In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths. Pro 3:7 Be not wise in thine own eyes: fear the LORD, and depart from evil. Thank God that He does not judge us based upon our ability to rightly divide His Word. We must not rely on the wisdom of man, but upon the Holy Spirit. God Bless, John John |
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156 | Why is "literal interpretation" the best | 2 Tim 2:15 | hobbs | 168533 | ||
Dear CBDG I mentioned the importance of context, and if we look at what Paul wrote in the preceeding verses, we may come to a somewhat different interpretaion. Eph 4:11 And he gave the apostles, the prophets, the evangelists, the pastors and teachers, 12 to equip the saints for the work of ministry, for building up the body of Christ, of Christ... Do you see the differece? God Bless, John |
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157 | Why is "literal interpretation" the best | 2 Tim 2:15 | hobbs | 168517 | ||
Thanks for the welcome old friend. John |
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158 | Why is "literal interpretation" the best | 2 Tim 2:15 | hobbs | 168516 | ||
To tell you the truth...my english grammer is a bit rusty. Nevertheless, I think plain common sense, operating under the government of the Holy Spirit, along with attention to context will keep us from straying into absurdities. John |
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159 | Why is "literal interpretation" the best | 2 Tim 2:15 | hobbs | 168492 | ||
Hello Kalos, I believe that context is an essential factor in determining whether strict literalism is appropriate in each case. For instance:Ps 36:7 How precious is Your lovingkindness, O God! And the children of men take refuge in the shadow of Your wings. Part literal part poetic. John |
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160 | Our Worship Ought to be Different | Deut 12:30 | hobbs | 168490 | ||
Hi Doc, The fact that the reason for our very existance lies in God's desire to be glorified...that He seeks a people who will worship Him in spirit and in truth, should cause each one of us to pause and examine our own church's obediance to God's will and command regarding our form of worship. "Whatever is not commanded by Scripture in the worship of God is forbidden. The view commonly held among Protestant churches today is that anything is permitted in worship, provided it is not explicitly forbidden in the Bible." "What was it regarding Cain's offering that made it unacceptable before God? The preference for Abel's offering and the rejection of Cain's was not arbitrary, but based upon past revelation given to Adam and his family. Evidently, God revealed this information to Adam when He killed animals to make coverings for Adam and his wife (Gen. 3:21). Generations later, Noah knew that God would only accept clean animals and birds as burnt offerings to the Lord (Gen. 8:20). Cain, unlike his brother Abel, decided, apart from God's Word, that an offering of the fruit of the ground would be acceptable before the Lord. But God rejected Cain's offering, because it was a creation of his mind. God did not command it; therefore, even if Cain was sincere in his desire to please God, God still would have rejected his offering." (The above is from Brian Schwertley and may found at http://www.reformed.com/pub/xmas.htm#C2) Thanks, John |
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