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121 | Suffering and God's providence | Bible general Archive 3 | atdcross | 162259 | ||
Hi Doc, I was making a general statement on the assumption that one is walking right with God and I did post a couple of verses. It seems the "discipline" can pertain to the conscious exercise of godly character in the midst of suffering (vs.1-3). It is the Lord's discipline in that he calls believers to this exercise. For the believer walking right with God, there will be suffering, not because God is handing it to him (unless it be for judgment against sin) but because we live in the midst of those hostile to the gospel and God's desire is that we grow in confomity to the Son (cf. v.10). |
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122 | Healing | Ps 115:3 | atdcross | 161443 | ||
Hypocrites in the Church do not disprove the enabling power of God to live godly. That history shows dark times when christians persecuted Christians does not disprove the existence of God. In the same way, although there have been or are those who have not presented the doctrine and practice of healing in a positive and Biblical light, that does not mean that healing (as Jesus and the apostles practiced it) is not for today. Allow me to respectfully submit that I do not see where the Bible portrays Jesus' power to heal as "incidental to his mission." Healing was essential in identifying Messiah. When asked if he were the Messiah, Jesus told them to look at his credentials. What were his credentials? Healings (Luke 7:22)! Jesus quoted from Isaiah 35:5 and 61:1, which gave the description of Messiah; this was how the Jews would be able to identify the true Messiah, by these "signs and wonders" performed. If Hank's assertion is true (and I believe it is) that the healings were in order to "authenticate who He was, the Messiah," how could they be "incidental"? To answer Jason's questions: 1. We don't have the same power because we do not believe that God desires to heal. Where there is doubt of God's will, faith is uncertain. 2. As a consequence of unbelief, we do not ask for healing: "you do not have because you do not ask" (James 4:2). 3. On the whole, the teaching about healing is misunderstood, many times taught with an apparent erroneous emphasis, and poorly put into practice. 4. Concerning your grandmother, my question is, when is it ever wrong to pray for God to heal the sick? |
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123 | did Jesus die for our sins or sickness | 1 Pet 2:24 | atdcross | 161083 | ||
I have come to this conclusions: (1) personally, through the experience of God’s character in my life; (2) Biblically, through my own studies of the Bible. (3) Through books, like the ones I suggested. I can briefly give what I believe warrants my position, although it is more an observation from a common sense approach rather than a careful, technical study and scholarly research. When I read Isaiah 53 in the Tanakh, from which the apostle Peter quotes, I notice there are references to physical sickness and healing. For example, v.3b: “A man of suffering, familiar with disease”; or, v.4a: Yet it was our sickness that he was bearing.” It seems Isaiah’s quote was understood as having reference to both the spiritual (including emotional and mental) and the physical, that is, the whole man. Notice, v.5: “He bore the chastisement that made us whole; And by His bruises we were healed.” The last part, to me, is like saying, “And by his physical bruises are our physical bruises healed.” Also the words “whole” and “healed” seem, from the context, to be unqualified and not limited in scope to its meaning, and therefore, comprehensive. This is my uneducated conviction. |
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124 | did Jesus die for our sins or sickness | 1 Pet 2:24 | atdcross | 161082 | ||
It seems the Biblical reference works and books I have perused disagree with the above interpretation. Please see my remark to BradK. Healing in Isaiah 53 is not in opposition to physical healing as, I believe, the context shows. As such, the same word being used in Psa 107:20 and Jer 3:22 would be defined in the same way. It all the verses mentioned, it does not see the context argues against it. It should be noted that the covenant blessings included healing of all diseases (Ex 15:26; Deut 7:15; Psa 103:3) |
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125 | did Jesus die for our sins or sickness | 1 Pet 2:24 | atdcross | 161080 | ||
(1) I agree, healing is not guaranteed. However, it is a provision in the atonement. (2) I agree that the word for healing refers to the physical and spiritual, that is, the whole man. (3) I do not think that limiting Isaiah 53:4 it to spiritual healing is upheld by the text. See my previous posting to BradK. (4) It seems v.4 (as better rendered in the Tanakh) should also be included as setting the context. If so, then both physical and spiritual healing is included. |
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126 | did Jesus die for our sins or sickness | 1 Pet 2:24 | atdcross | 161075 | ||
McCrossan’s book did not seem to be in conflict with Scripture as I read it, although I am in no way a qualified scholar. I have read a few other books and reference works that agree with McCrossan argument in the main. I have yet fully read Isarel’s Healer, which is very scholarly (quite a bit above my level of learning). However, I am listening to taped lessons by Dr. Brown that cover areas in the book. I can only say what I believe the Bible teaches and, as little of the Bible as I have studied, the teaching of healing in the atonement, physical as well as spiritual, seems to be affirmed. My intention was not to begin a debate on the issue but only to assist in gathering resources for the furtherance of one’s personal study on the subject. |
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