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1181 | The coming kingdom of antichrist? | Bible general Archive 2 | mark d seyler | 134011 | ||
Hi Reighnskye, Re 19:19 And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army. 20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone. My understanding is that individuals not governments are cast into the lake of fire, so this beast is a person. Re 13:13 And he (the false prophet)doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men, 14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live. This says that he had power to do miracles, therefore I think that the false prophet is able to do miracles, as he is empowered by the beast, that power coming from the devil. As demonstrated in Job, Satan has a certain amount of power, but only as God allows. Love in Christ, Mark |
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1182 | Will miracles arise in the last days? | Revelation | mark d seyler | 133976 | ||
Hi Reighnskye, Re 13:13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men, 14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live. 15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed. There is absolutely nothing in the text to indicate this is anything less the the coming reality. The lying wonders will be real, the death of those who refuse to worship the beast will be real, and the eternal punishment of those who do will be real. There are places that say something is a symbol. "I saw a great sign in heaven..." in chapter 12, but this kind of language is not used here. And this is further substantiated by II Thess 2:8-9 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, Again, there is nothing here to indicate this is symbolic, or anything less than an accurate realistic description of what will happen. Love in Christ, Mark |
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1183 | The coming kingdom of antichrist? | Bible general Archive 2 | mark d seyler | 133972 | ||
2Th 2:8 and then shall be revealed the Lawless One, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the manifestation of his presence, 9 him, whose presence is according to the working of the Adversary, in all power, and signs, and lying wonders, 10 and in all deceitfulness of the unrighteousness in those perishing, because the love of the truth they did not receive for their being saved, 11 and because of this shall God send to them a working of delusion, for their believing the lie, 12 that they may be judged--all who did not believe the truth, but were well pleased in the unrighteousness. (YLT) It seems that the appeal of the antichrist will be about what he appears to be able to do, in signs and lying wonders. He will lie, and the perishing will believe him. Basically, the appeal will be to man's pride. Isa 66:4 I also will choose their delusions, and will bring their fears upon them; because when I called, none did answer; when I spake, they did not hear: but they did evil before mine eyes, and chose that in which I delighted not. I think that ultimately, people will follow the antichrist because of their rejection of God. Having been then appointed to destruction, God fixes their minds to believe the delusion God chooses for them. Another way to read this passage is that God chooses the delusion they already have, fixing it in their minds. When you reject heaven, all you have left is hell. Love in Christ, Mark |
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1184 | is the seed non-human? | Dan 2:43 | mark d seyler | 133668 | ||
Hi Brad, I looked at that site (carm.org) re interpretive principles. I thought it had some good things to say about how to go about understanding the Bible. It used a passage for an example, but I don't think it went far enough. The passage used was 40Two men will be in the field; one will be taken and the other left. 41Two women will be grinding with a hand mill; one will be taken and the other left. 42Therefore keep watch, because you do not know on what day your Lord will come" (NIV). It went on to explain how this did not mean what most people think, but that it means the ones removed are taken for judgement. I just wonder, though, if that is in harmony with the rest of scripture? As in the parables, and in Matt 25, the judgment between the sheep and the goats, the wicked are taken away, leaving the righteous, however, that is after they are gathered to the Valley of Jehoshaphat, and so the wicked are not plucked out leaving the righteous standing there doing dishes, they are all brought from the kitchen to be judged. Logically, will they actually be business as usual on the final day of the great tribulation? The other thing I wonder about is that this passage goes on the say that we don't know when He is coming, but when He comes to judge, it will be 1260 days from the abomination that causes desolation, and so those on the earth can know the very day. For these reasons I question this conclusion, and encourage all Bible students to be diligent to ensure that any conclusion reached regarding the meaning of the Scriptures is in complete harmony with the rest. That notwithstanding, I've bookmarked the site. It looks like it may have some interesting material. Thanks! Love in Christ, Mark |
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1185 | is the seed non-human? | Dan 2:43 | mark d seyler | 133555 | ||
Hi Rowdy, Remember, 1Th 5:1 But concerning the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that aught be written unto you. 2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night. 3 When they are saying, Peace and safety, then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall in no wise escape. 4 But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief: 5 for ye are all sons of light, and sons of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness; Lu 21:31 Even so ye also, when ye see these things coming to pass, know ye that the kingdom of God is nigh. May He tarry for the sake of the unsaved! May He come quickly for His redeemed! (what's fun for me about this thread is that many of the things you and Misty have said are things I myself have thought about, and thought I was probibly the only one to ponder in relation to the topic of the nephilim, and so didn't post. Subract my points for lack of boldness! :( Anyway, another thing my wife and I have discussed is this phenomenom of men with an extra Y chromosome, who tend to be very tall, cunning, and amoral. Who knows!) Love in Christ, Mark |
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1186 | Isn't 24 more than one? | Acts 2:38 | mark d seyler | 133553 | ||
This makes me think of a story I heard once, of a daredevil who asked the crowd, "who believes I can wheel this wheelbarrow across this rope strung over Niagra falls?" When many answered yes, he asked, "who will ride in the wheelbarrow?" Love in Christ, Mark |
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1187 | is the seed non-human? | Dan 2:43 | mark d seyler | 133453 | ||
Hi Reighnskye, “Was this seed intermingling with the human race after the days of Noah?” Where the Bible says “there were nephilim in the earth in those days, and afterward”, I would have to say yes, that must be. The stories of anakim and similar people as the Israelites were coming to the promised land seem to be examples of this. “If it can be said that Noah and his family were pure-blood humans (which I believe to be the case)” This is what I had always assumed, but in fact, the Bible only says that Noah was perfect in his generations. Anything beyond this is our own speculation. We simply are not told concerning his wife, or his sons and their wives. And again, the scripture says “and afterward”. The existance of angel/human hybrids did not end with the flood. I believe that Noah’s wife was pure, and at least one of his son’s wives, because I believe Jesus came through a pure bloodline through Mary, however, I do not know scripture that says this. But this leads me to think that there may have continued to be intermingling, just not the worldwide contamination as before the flood. I agree completely that the intruduction of hybrids are a perversion of what God created, and those responsible with receive severe punishment. (See II Peter, and Jude) However, I believe that in the resurrection, all of the redeemed will have the heavenly body not affected by any perversions. My thinking is that the spirits produced from this crossbreeding are not subject to salvation, although again, I have no scripture to support that. My thinking is that these are the demons so often described in the Bible as desparately wanting to inhabit people’s bodies. As far as the war between God and those who are evil, God will win, no matter what weapons are formed against Him. The future dominance of redeemed humanity can only come through God’s work in us, and not by any mechination of man or angel. Unredeemed humanity will not, of course, have any dominance no matter what they do. Thank you for responding. You gave me some interesting things to think about. Love in Christ, Mark |
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1188 | is the seed non-human? | Dan 2:43 | mark d seyler | 133396 | ||
Hi Reighnskye, "the nephilim were on the earth in those days and also afterward". Also afterward. See also referrences to Anakim and others. As it was in the days of Noah. . . "the seed of the serpent" Gen 3:15. Who is this seed of the serpent? Dan. 2:43 - who is it that can mingle with the seed of man without cleaving, but that which is not the seed of man? Does not the Bible suggest that there will be, for lack of a better word, demon-spawn living among us? Does this all mean they would neccessarily be giants? Perhaps they would be more subtle. Its a very strange subject to say the least, but these things are all written in the Bible. Love in Christ, Mark |
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1189 | NT tithing completely unbiblical? | Matt 23:23 | mark d seyler | 133377 | ||
Does a slave own property? Does a slave, when working at the task his master sets him to, keep the proceeds of his labor? No, the master owns all, and receives the payment. If the master commits his goods to the care if his slave, and instructs his slave to obey the master's orders, and to adhere to the master's values, and work to further the master's purpose, and tells the slave he (the master) will require an accounting of what that slave has done with all that was entrusted to that slave, perhaps we should ask a different question. How much of my Master's goods should I keep to use for myself? How long is this life, and how far away that accounting, that I should seek to enrich myself? Just some food for thought. . . Love in Christ, Mark |
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1190 | What is the biblical def of apostle | Luke 6:13 | mark d seyler | 133232 | ||
Hi, This would be my half-cent worth. Paul, in calling himself the least of all apostles, was nonetheless acknowledging his apostleship. He considers himself not fit to called an apostle, and then acknowledges God's grace that he is an apostle. That's how I read it, but I am not about to be dogmatic about this. Love in Christ, Mark |
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1191 | Why did the Savior Dread the Cup? | Matt 26:38 | mark d seyler | 133181 | ||
Hi all, There is another verse I think of relating to this. Mt 20:22 "But Jesus answered and said, Ye know not what ye ask. Are ye able to drink the cup that I am about to drink? They say unto him, We are able. 23 He saith unto them, My cup indeed ye shall drink" These disciples were also (mostly) brutally killed. Which ever way you look at it, Jesus had a most difficult job to do - I can only imagine I would have called on those legion of angels! Love in Christ, Mark |
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1192 | Are miracles for today? | 1 Cor 13:8 | mark d seyler | 133172 | ||
Hi Rowdy, Amen!! Love in Christ, Mark |
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1193 | Are miracles for today? | 1 Cor 13:8 | mark d seyler | 133137 | ||
Hi Survivor, Would you consider murder to be "the will of God"? The murder of God's Son served the purpose of God. Does this mean that God condones or approves murder? Absolutely not! But, God knew that these people to whom He sent His Son would murder Him, which would accomplish the sacrifice God planned all along. All things, my friend, means all things. You said "God doesn't send prophets to warn nor does he destroy people that are doing his will." God destroyed Pharoah for his rebellion: Ex 9:13 And Jehovah said unto Moses, Rise up early in the morning, and stand before Pharaoh, and say unto him, Thus saith Jehovah, the God of the Hebrews, Let my people go, that they may serve me. 14 For I will this time send all my plagues upon thy heart, and upon thy servants, and upon thy people; that thou mayest know that there is none like me in all the earth. 15 For now I had put forth my hand, and smitten thee and thy people with pestilence, and thou hadst been cut off from the earth: 16 but in very deed for this cause have I made thee to stand, to show thee my power, and that my name may be declared throughout all the earth. Romans 9:17 For the scripture saith unto Pharaoh, For this very purpose did I raise thee up, that I might show in thee my power, and that my name might be published abroad in all the earth. Did Pharoah do what God asked him to do? No. Did Pharoah serve God's purpose? "for this purpose did I raise thee up, that I might show in thee My power." Yes, in spite of himself Pharoah served God's purpose, as did the people who murdered Jesus, as do you, and as do I, and as do all things. Not everyone willingly submits to the Lord. No one will cause any plan of God to fail. When a man rebels, it is to their own hurt, and God will be glorified in their righteous destruction as He will be glorified in our redemption and adoption. Love in Christ, Mark |
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1194 | Are miracles for today? | 1 Cor 13:8 | mark d seyler | 133076 | ||
Hi Survivor, Acts 17:24 The God that made the world and all things therein, he, being Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands; 25 neither is he served by men's hands, as though he needed anything, seeing he himself giveth to all life, and breath, and all things; 26 and he made of one every nation of men to dwell on all the face of the earth, having determined their appointed seasons, and the bounds of their habitation; 27 that they should seek God, if haply they might feel after him and find him, though he is not far from each one of us: From this scripture I understand that God predetermines when and where we live, to have us live in the circumstance most likely to cause us to seek Him. Romans 8:28 And we know that to them that love God all things work together for good, even to them that are called according to his purpose. This verse say “all things”, as does the next. Ephesians 1:11 in whom also we were made a heritage, having been foreordained according to the purpose of him (God) who worketh all things after the counsel of his will; God determines when and where I live, and as I am His child, the One Who works all things according to what He wants is conforming me to the image of Christ. This is the filter I see everything through. If it happens in my life, God has either allowed it or done it. All things in my life serve our God’s purposes, and I can rest in Him. All things further His will. Love in Christ, Mark |
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1195 | Are miracles for today? | 1 Cor 13:8 | mark d seyler | 133058 | ||
Hi Surviror, Just because we don't understand why God does what He does, let us not use our lack of understanding to determine truth. My believing friend Keith suffered from a multi-lobed brain tumor for about 5 years, as treatment after treatment failed. There was absolutely no question about this cancer, and we could only watch him deteriorate as we continued to pray. He finally became comatose, and ended up in a vegetative care facility, receiving life support only, with no expectation of recovery, only a matter of a short time until he would die. His family and friends continued to pray, and especially his mother. Three years went by. When a care-giver noticed that he gave a slight response to her ministrations, a new MRI was ordered, which revealed not a trace of tumor. A short time later he was released to go home. Does this prove miracles happen today? No. Our experience does not "prove" anything. Do I believe this is a miracle? Yes! The Bible says to ask God for everything. The Bible says in James 5:14 Is any among you sick? Let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord: 15 and the prayer of faith shall save him that is sick, and the Lord shall raise him up; That sure seems to be what happened with Keith! I believe the Bible, and when experience goes along with what God said, I am not surprised. Does our Lord tell us to pray, all the while knowing that our healing will not come, because miracles are not for today? That's not the God I know, Who gives bread and not stones to His kids. Why did God heal my friend, and allow my mother to die from her cancer? Why not rather ask: Why did God leave Keith here in this world, when my mother was able to go home to her Savior, for that total healing. I don't know. Blessed be the Name of the LORD! Love in Christ, Mark |
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1196 | Are miracles for today? | 1 Cor 13:8 | mark d seyler | 133045 | ||
Try 127185. Love in Christ, Mark |
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1197 | Is the rapture biblically supported? | 1 Thess 4:17 | mark d seyler | 132696 | ||
Hi Kalos, I've spent my weekend reviewing my position on the rapture, and I still have some more work to do before I will be ready to submit more detailed information. I have seen a couple of things differently, although nothing to substantially change my view. I have been unable to get the solagroup website, I will try it again later. I think that a primary factor in determining when the rapture happens is whether one takes the book of the Revelation sequentially, as I do, or non-sequentially, i.e. a series of visions whose telling do not relate to the actual order of occurance. What is your view about this? Love in Christ, Mark |
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1198 | Is the rapture biblically supported? | 1 Thess 4:17 | mark d seyler | 132483 | ||
Hi Kalos, I had no idea how to search that way. Thank you! I have printed off many of your posts, and I will read them over the weekend. At first blush, it seems to me that our area of disagreement is not so about the rapture itself, but when the surrounding events occur. I have no doubt that you, as do I, am looking for our savior to return for us, to be with Him forever. I do not believe as most people I know, I too think the rapture comes during or after the sixth seal. Its the only way it seems to make sense. I have a fairly lengthy (about 30 pages) timeline of the end times prophecies I have put together, not that I am saying this is the way it must be, just what it seems, which I would be happy to show you should you be interested. Honestly, I am interested in a critical review of my work. Let me know if you are interested, and I can email it. If you're not, no problem. I believe that prophecies might not be completely understood until they are fulfilled, and I keep an open mind. Again, I am out of time. I'll talk to you on Monday. Love in Christ, Mark |
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1199 | Is the rapture biblically supported? | 1 Thess 4:17 | mark d seyler | 132460 | ||
Hi Kalos, I'm sorry I neglected to referrence my previous post number in my last submission. One post with the timeline I mentioned is 132383. Love in Christ, Mark |
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1200 | Is the rapture biblically supported? | 1 Thess 4:17 | mark d seyler | 132454 | ||
Hi Kalos, The Bible speaks in many places of the Second Coming of Christ, as He appears in great glory, saving Israel, judging the nations, and establishing His kingdom upon the earth. The Bible also describes as Jesus comes in the sky, resurrecting the “dead in Christ”, then “catching up” the living believers, to be transformed, and given eternal bodies. The appearing in glory is spoken of using epiphenea, shining forth. This appearing will be precisely 2520 days after the “confirming of a covenant” (Daniel 9:27), or 3 1/2 years after the abomination that causes desolation. Because of the many times Jesus tells us that the time of His coming will be unknown, unless He returns before He is revealed in glory, these scriptures would become untrue as soon as the tribulation began, and all the more so following the abomination of desolation. Therefore, Jesus must return unannounced, but not be revealed until the end of the tribulation. It is logically impossible that we can both not know the day of His coming if His coming has been announced to the very day. It has to be two events. This is further borne out by the uses of parousia, or advent, when describing His unannounced return, and epiphaneia, or shining forth, when describing His revealing in glory. A full examination of the way these two words are used in discussing His return shows the different aspects of His coming. As Abraham said to the LORD, “Will you judge the righteous with the wicked?” The LORD responded that if there were 10 righteous He would spare Sodom. As the angels said to Lot, when there were not even 10 righteous to be found, “We cannot destroy the city until you are gone”. This and many other scriptures tell us that God does not judge the righteous with the sinner’s judgment, so therefore the righteous (with Christ’s righteousness) must be removed before judgment comes. Jesus will come as a thief, when we are not expecting Him, and this is separate from His shining forth at the end of the tribulation. Again, I ask you to review the timeline I submitted in 2 earlier posts, that show the Revelation requires that the judgments from God begin early, if not at the very beginning, of the tribulation. In Rev 15 the angels are “Clothed in pure and white linen, golden sashes around their chests.” We know that “angel” actually means “messenger”, which are not necessarily non-human. Many believe that in the letters to the churches in Rev. 2-3, the “angel of the church of…” was the pastor. One of the angels which had the 7 last plagues which spoke to John said to him “: I am thy fellowservant (sundoulos), and of thy brethren (adelphon) that have the testimony (martyrian) of Jesus” and later “for I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren the prophets, and of them which keep the sayings of this book”. Is this angel who is talking to John his fellow human? That is what it seems to be saying. If the white linen is said to be the righteous acts of the saints in Rev 19, who decides that it means something else in a different place? Once we begin choosing the meanings of the symbols and descriptions to match our beliefs, where does it end? We do not need this passage as a proof text for pre-trib rapture. Whether the saints return with Christ or not, Jesus told us to watch for the Bridegroom, be ready to open the door for the Master when He returns, and I am watching for the Bridegroom. Immediately after the opening of the sixth seal John reports the sealing of “the servants of God”, which numbered 144,000, and all are Jews. He does not say that 144,000 of God’s servants are numbered, he says the servants of God are numbered, and that there are 144,000 of them, and identifies them as all Jews. If there is no rapture of the church before this time, where are we, who are also God’s servants (douloi)? Remember, according to the timeline given within this book of prophecy, this has to be at or very near the beginning of the tribulation. There are so many more relevant passages, I will try to provide more over the coming days, as my time permits. The Spirit and the Bride say “Come”! Even so, come Lord Jesus! Love in Christ, Mark |
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