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1 | Tim, have you abandoned the study?? | 1 Pet 1:1 | Paulfromnys | 27910 | ||
Good, for the word is the place for us to be. Check out the scripture fellowship in the Bible studies at Aaa Bible study if you wish. Christian Aaa Bible Study Forum It's a delphi forum. God bless, and have a speedy recovery in Jesus name. Yours in Christ, Paul |
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2 | Aliens in the World, but Chosen by God | 1 Pet 1:1 | Paulfromnys | 27719 | ||
Hi Tim, I'm doing a Bible fellowship on 1 Peter also on another forum. I thought I'd check here to see if any light on these verses could be found to share. I'm at 1 Peter1:9 presently. I like what you said regarding getting into the scriptures as given, being fruitful, as opposed to trying to deal with the thoughts we have regarding our personel understanding of the Bible. I love the fellowship of Malachi 3:16-18, and the road to Emmaus, so I concur with your thoughts on fellowshipping IN the word. I've been following this as a vision for over a year now, and can tell you it will take patience on your part. I had one ask about strangers, so if you don't mind I'll copy your explanation for him, as I think it's good. Hang tough, and I'll pop in with any good insights from our fellowship. For now, I'll just add some scriptures your teaching on strangers and aliens brought to mind: Hbr 11:13 These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off, and were persuaded of [them], and embraced [them], and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth. Hbr 11:14 For they that say such things declare plainly that they seek a country. Hbr 11:15 And truly, if they had been mindful of that [country] from whence they came out, they might have had opportunity to have returned. Hbr 11:16 But now they desire a better [country], that is, an heavenly: wherefore God is not ashamed to be called their God: for he hath prepared for them a city. Hbr 13:12 Wherefore Jesus also, that he might sanctify the people with his own blood, suffered without the gate. Hbr 13:13 Let us go forth therefore unto him without the camp, bearing his reproach. Hbr 13:14 For here have we no continuing city, but we seek one to come. Hbr 13:15 By him therefore let us offer the sacrifice of praise to God continually, that is, the fruit of [our] lips giving thanks to his name. Hbr 13:16 But to do good and to communicate forget not: for with such sacrifices God is well pleased. Yours in Christ, Paul |
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3 | Why include "even" in John 1:12 | John 1:12 | Paulfromnys | 27084 | ||
This guarantee is with GOD, in the purity of how His word is received. As it is written, be not deceived; GOD is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. What a man thinks he does stands or falls in GODS estimation of what is really done. A man says he is doing something, but is he really? Our Lord did say he who endures to the end shall be saved. He also gave us the parable of the unrighteous judge to exort us to keep after him. My fear is that a lot of people have been given a false gospel of "Jesus light", and have received another spirit. Never let go of the hope GOD has given in His Son, and don't deal lightly with it either. |
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4 | Why include "even" in John 1:12 | John 1:12 | Paulfromnys | 27030 | ||
To me it speaks of the all encompassing faithfulness of GOD to what He says. GOD will deal with those who come to Him through Jesus, but they have the right, not the guarntee of being accepted as His children. | ||||||
5 | Genesis 3:1-7 | Genesis | Paulfromnys | 26384 | ||
OK Joe, Good try, and I do appreciate the effort, and the spirit it was given in. I think we'll agree that GOD bleess us all in our desire to know, serve, and please Him. That GOD conform us to the likeness of His Son(true blessing). And agreeing here we'll leave off. Your brother in Christ, Paul |
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6 | Genesis 3:1-7 | Genesis | Paulfromnys | 26340 | ||
Amen. Ephesians 4:11 is the expression of our Lord into verses 12-16. There are many things we know, I'm not satisfied that this is one of them, and I don't believe those saying they know, do. I have clarity on many things I will endorse as fact, but as I've said, I don't know this, nor do I see a knowing of it yet apparent. | ||||||
7 | Genesis 3:1-7 | Genesis | Paulfromnys | 26337 | ||
OK Joe, it's a given that the apparent reading of the scripture favors a rejection of what I'm seeing. What I'm saying is that Genesis 4:1a applies to Abel, and Eve wrongly ascribes it to the Lord. I'm seeing two children in the womb from seperate impregnations, and Genesis 4:1,2 does not disallow that. I can sense your anger, and frustration at this, but all I can do is commend you for your patience, and re-iterate that I'm considering a real understanding which I hold to, and which does not by any means live or die in the rending of this verse. Joe:--We already discussed 1 John 3:12. Paul:-- Sorry, but sometimes it takes a couple of passes to get these things into focus. Joe:-- We were ALL of the wicked one until God called those whom he elected to justification and adoption. Paul:-- Not "of" the wicked one, which Cain is shown as here as in distinction to Abel, but rather in boundage to, deceived by, willfully following, whatever, but NOT OF. I think here you find yourself on the wrong side of a logical reading of the verse. Joe:---Cain's and Abel's spiritual differences cannot be attributed to genetics. Paul:-- the appearance of these things into a creation of GOD inhabited by a spiritual son can be. Joe:--- It is nonsense, completely unsupported by Scripture. How does Branhamism account for two brothers of the same parents in today's world, one a Christian and one not? Paul:--- It's clear that we're all a mixture in our flesh, and that we're called by faith to live through our spirits in believing GOD for the revelation of His Son there by faith. Joe:--- It is failure to take responsibility for our own personaly depravity, our own treasonous rebellion against a holy God. Paul:--- No it calls sons of GOD to declare their heritage in the only possible way-in the person of GOD. We are to recognize and acknowledge the personal depravity which we expressed in taking the headship of our GOD given lives. We are to change our minds, and take our lives as sons formed under the headship of GOD through the attonement, and in the person of our Lord Jesus Christ. Joe:--- "He predestined us to adoption as sons through Jesus Christ to Himself, according to the kind intention of His will" --Ephesians 1:5 Paul:--- This was true before any of the things we are looking at. Joe:---Those of us who are God's children are ADOPTED, not natural children of Him. Paul:--- Thats right, if we were not REDEEMED into GODS expressed life(Jesus) we'll inherit the judgement of GOD as to our love of the deeds of our sensual life. Our flesh is hoplessly bound to the devil: why?? Our spirits are willing: why?? Joe:-- This is a spiritual relationship of Fatherhood and sonship, for we were all "children of wrath" before conversion (Ephesians 2:3). Paul:--- because of the corruption of our souls by the flesh(Romans 8:13). Joe:---And why did God adopt us from Satan's "family" into ours? It was "according to the kind intention of His will," not because of our genetic link to him in some crazy way. Paul:--- He adopted(brought to sonship) us because this is what we were created for in His love. He allowed Romans 8:20 to fulfill Romans 11:32 and bring us though our desire(formed by GODS desire twords us, revealed) to Himself. Paul:---In regards to your response to Amos 3:6; we receive whatever GOD sends us in His wisdom in conforming us to sons in Christ. Teaching, exorting, pastoring, prophesying do not cease in Christ, but rather are received PERFECTLY in our Lord, the very thing we could not do with GODS wisdom twords us. The "voice"(prophet) of Revelation 10:7 brings GODS word to clarity before GODS people, who perfectly receive it, because Christ is now their life(Romans 8:9). Your last paragraph is an opinion, and I don't regard the person of man to state such things as fact, again shutting out any input GOD may initiate. Your in Christ, Paul |
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8 | Genesis 3:1-7 | Genesis | Paulfromnys | 26302 | ||
I've been removed from Branham circles for a long time. All testimonies regarding his ministry, and the recorded events of his life are readily available. I have delt with many, many people on these issues over the years, and even the most opposed to Bill Branham acknowledge that VERY powerful moves of GODS Spirit attended his ministry. I never saw or heard him in person, but have read, and listened to tapes of most all(close to 1000) of his recorded messages. He was universally acclaimed among penecostal circles(1948-1958) until he began to speak doctrine in the name of the Lord at which point his ministry came under heavy attack from 1958-1966 when he was killed in a car accident. One involved a crippled state senator to whom healing was declared under the banner of "thus saith the Lord". His record on healings is strong(regarding clarity as to be regarded as genuine), as far as speaking about things which were to be, I find his prophecies, and the testimonies regarding them to be much less compelling. But finally all these things fade in importance, and it comes down to the same thing it does with all GODS servants - "if you don't believe me, then believe for the works sake". The actual teaching embodied in the ministry of Bill Branham is what establishes, or disallows his vindication. I've been deeply blessed by the content, and spirit of this man. Serpent seed was primarily the doctrine he brought which stuck in my craw, and it's been there for 25 years. My response to it was much the same as yours, and the others who have responded to my question. Yet in light of what I had heard from him, I did not reject him on the basis of this strange interptation, but left it with GOD. Sinse then I have come to see it much as I'm sharing today, but I still do not have the clarity to say yes, or no in my own spirit. I want you to know that I'm not trying to do anything here but examine some things which I have wondered about for a long, long time. We all have discernment as to who is being honest, and who is being religious; how much more GOD. |
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9 | Genesis 3:1-7 | Genesis | Paulfromnys | 26180 | ||
In regards to the stature of Bill Branhams ministry, I was referring to the thousands of times he spoke in the name of the Lord with not one instance of what was spoken not comming to pass exactly as spoken, but hundreds of miracles and healings to include total deformation of the body, crippled from birth, blindness, cancer, documented and witnessed by many. NO ONE today, or in recent recorded history has shown the office of a true prophet with "thus saith the Lord" to mark him as one hearing from mouth to ear: GOD. Now you may find many reasons to discredit this in your thinking, but for me, I choose to walk softly in these things. Remember before GOD does any major move in his dealings with us, He declares it through His servants the prophets, and thats exactly what the message by Bill Branham did(Proported to do) - forerun the return of our Lord by setting aright the very agency of our life with GOD - His word. | ||||||
10 | Genesis 3:1-7 | Genesis | Paulfromnys | 26121 | ||
very true Tim, but I don't believe at all we're talking about that kind of clarity, do you?? I do appreciate the honest concern, and I'm of the same mind. Your Brother in Christ, Paul |
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11 | Genesis 3:1-7 | Genesis | Paulfromnys | 26119 | ||
Hi Tim, I feel theres enough to warrent an honest leaving of these things with GOD. I have trouble understanding brothers who say they know these things, when I really believe they don't. A strong opinion, or heldfast belief is one thing, but a total disallowing of a possiple understanding of scripture needs to be examined very seriously. I believe as I have shared, but I am open to the prayers of brethern in these things that GOD bring clarity to us. When you say you know, theres no communion with GOD on that point. I don't believe theres any real knowing shown here, just shock that such an interptation could be applied to those verses. I've left Bill Branham with GOD for several years now, and have received alot of clarity in the scriptures through his teachings. To me it's a very big thing to know something. Yours in Christ, Paul |
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12 | Sports: Is "competitiveness" good? | Prov 16:32 | Paulfromnys | 26104 | ||
In Christ, yes. Otherwise, no. | ||||||
13 | heaping coals upon the head? | Rom 12:20 | Paulfromnys | 26103 | ||
By fulfilling Matthew 5:43,44 we may well accomplish Romans 12:20 in many who have been formed by the wickedness of this world, but still have a high regard for the things of love and mercy. This is like the pricking that Jesus knew Paul was wrestling with. | ||||||
14 | Genesis 3:1-7 | Genesis | Paulfromnys | 26102 | ||
No the line was not sinless, only Jesus is that. Bill Branham is as far from embracing evolution as you can get. Genesis 4:1 says Eve said that we have a man from the Lord, and is silent regarding Abel. 1Jo 3:12 Not as Cain, [who] was of that wicked one, and slew his brother. And wherefore slew he him? Because his own works were evil, and his brother's righteous. It's interesting to consider how such a life could be manifested immediately after the fall. Joe:---So we return to the age-old deception of believing that the Bible needs a human interpreter to tell us what the "hidden meaning" behind the text is. Amo 3:7 Surely the Lord GOD will do nothing, but he revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets. Rev 10:7 But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets. Joe----One must reject the clear rendering of Scripture in order to embrace Branhamism. In addition, the teachings of Branham regarding the serpent's seed has NEVER been held in the total of church history. Such an "important doctrine" was not taught by the apostles, nor by anyone in church history until Branham. No trace of it at all. So either our sovereign God let His truth disappear for until the 1940s, or Branham is wrong. ------- You've picked a point unacceptable to your thinking, and disqualified a powerful ministry based on this. This is what many of Jesus disciples did when He spoke of eating His flesh, and drinking His blood. I think we need to let this go, so this will be my last reply for the time being. Joe:---Seriously, Paul, take a step back and evaluate that. Literally thousands of years went by, with this "revelation" hidden. The Bible doesn't mention it directly, and even apparently denies it, based on the verses I already cited. Only those who follow Branham hold to this strange doctrine, and do so in the face of the weight of history and the Biblical narrative and the complete SILENCE of Scripture on this doctrine. --------------------------------- I don't need to pray whether Branham was right any more than I need to pray whether the Book of Mormon is true. God has already plainly revealed that he is not.--------------------------------- I'm very serious about these things, and I do leave them with GOD for final clarity. I'm also very serious when I exort you to do the same. Yours in Christ, Paul |
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15 | Genesis 3:1-7 | Genesis | Paulfromnys | 26090 | ||
The purity is GODS unfolding Revelation in man. Whatever came from the disobedience of Adam was not included in this. Ok, regarding Bill Branham, theres ALOT to be said which cannot be delt with honestly in this setting in an debate. I have delt with the things your presenting inlight of many other considerations, and cannot reject the claim to Revelations 10:7 out of hand as many do. Genesis 4:1 quotes Eve regarding Cain, but makes no mention of Abel whom all know to be in the lineage from Adam. Does this prove anything, no, but it does not allow the complete rejection many would ascribe to it. The interbreeding comment is out of context, I don't believe your very familiar with the message, and have gotten ahold of some of the wonderful apologetic material that is available. My opinion is that Bill Branham did represent the voice of Revelation 10:7, yet in the presssures of such an office He was found trying to justify as a man what he knew by revelation(mouth to ear) to be true. His quote on interbreeding would be this i believe. He was seeking to make a piece fit I believe. I wonder if we could hear all the things Moses said in light of his experiences with GOD could be cast in such a light, at any event we know Moses was angry(probably befuddled) at the response of the people, and he had to deal with this in GOD. Man is not a beast, yet we know that a beast will receive the worship of all not knowing our Lord. Why is this "man" identified as a beast?? "Then the LORD God formed man of dust from the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living being." --Genesis 2:7 This is indeed GODS creation of man, but what we're looking at are the circumstances which perverted GODS image in man to it's current manifestation in this world. Joe ---I pray that you will read the Bible apart from the "revelations" of William Branham, and I pray that the REAL Holy Spirit will enlighten you to what is the truth, Paul. Everything said by human beings needs to be weighed against the content of the whole of Scripture to see if it is reasonable. Branham demonstrated that he wasn't a prophet of God by denying the very truths found in the Word of God. I've been doing this for years. I attend a local assembly of believers who don't see Bill Branham as I do. Yet I've always wanted to consider these things in an honest open fellowship. All to often these things get like a bad divorse, both side ripping at each other, and I'm not up for that. Leave your prayers at GOD revealing what is right to us, because when you say you know you have shut the door to hearing from GOD on that issue. Yours in Christ, Paul |
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16 | Genesis 3:1-7 | Genesis | Paulfromnys | 26061 | ||
I can't enlighten anyone, simply share what I have believed, I guess thats what we all do. Good talking with you Joe, I guess we leave it here for now. GOD bless us all in our desire to know, please, and serve Him. Your brother in Christ, Paul |
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17 | Genesis 3:1-7 | Genesis | Paulfromnys | 26025 | ||
Tim:---I don't mean to be rude, but to put it bluntly: this is a dangerous method of interpretation.-------------------------------- Your right. I'm just trusting that it's clear that I'm honestly considering these things with you in GODS presence, and by no means setting myself up as speaking for GOD. Tim:-- If we all followed this interpretational method, we could make any passage say anything we want. ---------------------------------------- regardless of what rules we apply to understanding scripture, the bottom line is revelation from GOD. I think your guidelines are sensible, but not the conclusion of this matter. Tim:----Earlier you cross referenced Gen. 3:1-7 with the parable of the seeds in the NT. I have heard other people make that connection recently. If you don't mind, where did you hear that from? Somebody out there must be teaching it! I was introduced to these understandings through the ministry of Bill Branham. Your brother in Christ, Paul |
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18 | Genesis 3:1-7 | Genesis | Paulfromnys | 26017 | ||
I agree, but I think what we're dealing with here is the revelation of how we're brought into, and kept in the power of sin. What you've presented is a case of every disobedience needing correction, and yet there is disobedience which brings death. The strength of this death is what we're looking at, and according to Romans 8, it's from the influence of our ""GOD given"" flesh?? One of our promises in Christ is new bodies. Anyway, I'm getting alot of thought provoking responses to this(how the Spirit of our GOD always loves to redeem life from death) from good, and well versed brethern. So as we pray for one another, we'll continue to desire our Lord, but right now my flesh is weak. Hank:---No matter what outward form it may take, sin is disobedience to God's law. Amen, and an excellant point, very needful to keep in view in these considerations. |
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19 | Genesis 3:1-7 | Genesis | Paulfromnys | 26015 | ||
Okay, Paul, I'll bite (pardon the pun). Very appropiate pun it is:) Joe:---What do you mean when you say that God maintained "a pure PHYSICAL lineage from Adam to our Lord"? You keep repeating this, so what is the purity of which you speak? Do you mean that all of those between Adam and Jesus were morally perfect? Please explain yourself here. Paul:---I believe Adam was created the son of GOD in the sense of conception. By this i mean that every father has in his heart a desire or vision of who his son will be, and birth begins the interaction between father and son as to what the reality of the son will indeed be. GODS revealing of His Son was determined before the foundation of the world as GOD can perfectly execute His desires where man cannot. Anyway with the birth of cain I believe we have an expression of life among men which is directly opposed to GODS Son being revealed in flesh. This life expressed in Cain is not in GODS thinking regarding the life of His Son, so while all flesh became defiled in the mixture of fornication(reproduction outside of GODS desire) GOD maintained a lineage free of this mixture unto the revelation of His promised Son. In regards to the wheat and tares, please read Matthew 13:37-43 where Jesus explaines the parable to His disciples. Here we have an enemy planting sons after the good man did. To me I see this reality in the scriptures. A man of GOD declaring GOD word to the people, and a man or group of men on the scene directly opposed to what GODS man is bringing, with the vast majority of people somewhere in between in the valley of decision. Look at the religious leaders affecting the multitude who had been blessed, and pricked by Jesus ministry in Matthew 27:20. Dathan and Korah directly opposed Moses. It seems to me that as there is a pure seed(Jesus), there is also a truly reprobate seed, and both are desiring to draw men to themselves. I believe the VAST multitude of us are a mixture of the two, and in need of redemption to be found in GODS Son, as sons. Of course your thoughts on false teachers is valid, but here we're talking about the origons, and embodiment of these false teachers. Joe--- In John 8, we see Jesus calling the Pharisees children of the devil (John 8:44) while at the same time acknowledging that they are physical descendants of Abraham like He is (John 8:37) The Pharisees and Christ share a common physical lineage, but they are children of the devil and he is the Son of God. Paul--- the more i talk with you, the more I appreciate your fellowship(not flattery, just the way I see it)Your thoughts are well conceived in the word of our Lord, and if I am barking up the wrong tree, I think you'll get me to see it. The promise went through Issac, which means to me that the Lord is vigilent over this lineage due to possible mixture from the wives who are not mentioned in the lineage. Anyway that GOD can do this is not an issue. I know you'll have a bad response to this, but maybe Romans 9:7,8 will help. As does Roman 8, it seems the flesh is to be removed from consideration by GODS promise. The mixture of these things is not in question, but the origon of them is. Joe:---The Bible also says that we are ALL by nature children of the devil until God saves us and adopts us into His family (see Ephesians 2:3 to see our common spiritual parentage).---- Yes that we were held captive by the power of sin in our flesh is not debatable. That the source of this boundage came by a defilement of our GOD created flesh is. This is the devil perverting life in order to gain passage to our souls in order to oppose our spirits I believe. To be aware of this would be a part of GODS revelation to us, which comes through the hearing of His word. You are certainely making me think about what I've received as true. I believe if we perservere some these things will come into view as true, or false. |
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20 | Genesis 3:1-7 | Genesis | Paulfromnys | 25990 | ||
Hi Joe, read Ezekiel 31:1-9 to get a sense of where i get the idea of trees representing men. In the spiritual sense, this is the only way to see it. GOD apparently has made physical creation to be reflections of spiritual realities. There is only one LIFE, and only one death; sin. So I'm seeing the man of life, and the man of sin residing in the garden, and our great..............................................................great grandparents between them, just as all men are today. To consume the tree of life is to embrace and act on what it presents to you as your life; Jesus said, why do you call me Lord, Lord, and do not as I say?? Life has one master; Christ, and death has one master; sin. Both are personified; the one who manifests GODS life fully: Jesus Christ, and the one who manifests sin fully: as yet unidentified. Anyway Joe, these are not things to be brushed aside abruptly, for the truth is, neither one of us knows these things, but before GOD we desire to, and we have the freedom to think on them in His presence. Please read Malachi 3:16-18, as this is how I believe we should approach these things TOGETHER. Joe ---If the tree of life is Jesus, why did God say that Adam and Eve could eat from ANY tree except that of the knowledge of good and evil. So Eve could have "fornicated" with all trees except Satan?!? ---------------------------------- Because the fellowship(not fornicating) of these trees would not have produced fruit(acts) contrary to the spirit of GOD as the tree of the knowledge of Good and evil did. Fornication is an act which is contrary to GOD, and this is what she took to Adam, I believe. I must say though that the idea of many trees being food does make me think of literal food. Thanks Joe, and please share any other thoughts you get concerning this. Yours in Christ, Paul |
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