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1 | Christians before Jesus came | Bible general Archive 2 | Glory Bound | 128748 | ||
Chesed, I am sorry that you misread or misunderstood my statement, for I did not state any "conditions for salvation." I was answering the second part of the original question which, if you "read" it, has nothing to do with anyone after the Savior. What I stated was as follows. "As to how people were saved prior to Jesus' sacrifice; I have done no in depth study on the matter, but from what I have read in scripture, it boiled down to living right, sacrificing and obeying the word of God. Isn't that what it is all about in the first place, obeying the word? Jesus was and is the word." If one obeys the word, they will believe in Jesus. Concerning Grace, you are confusing New Testament doctrine with Old Testament times. Scripture states that we are “saved by Grace through faith.” This statement was made “after Christ made His sacrifice and has nothing to do with the salvation of those prior to Jesus. If you can provide scripture to support your statement, which as I read it, and I paraphrase, says that even those before Christ were “saved by Grace through faith,” I would be glad to debate this matter. Otherwise, if you have no scriptural foundation for your statement, it is simple conjecture. I have no desire to debate conjecture, for you are entitled to your opinion. I prefer scriptural fact. If one reads the Old Testament accounts, the facts concerning this matter should be evident. Please be aware Chesed; though I have been here before, I am relatively new to this board and its current members. I know some, but there are considerably more, including yourself which I do not know. I am a fairly learned student of scripture, and I am very familiar with the antics of many which wish to engage in its debate. I am not saying that you are doing this, but when they were plainly stated, and a reader misquotes my words, I tend to wonder if the reader is intentionally trying to twist my words into something I did not say. Once I realize someone is attempting to twist my words, this someone looses all credibility with me and I loose all desire to debate with this person. In Christ and His truth GB |
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2 | Christians before Jesus came | Bible general Archive 2 | Glory Bound | 128761 | ||
Did I say "that there was no grace or forgiveness in the OT?" Please provide some scriptural references concerning someone in the OT who was saved "by grace, through faith.” ie Eph 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Noah found Grace in the eyes of the Lord. Abraham, Moses, David, Isaiah and many others did the same. By the way, Abraham was the father of faith. What other commands of the Lord did they follow? What was the role of the law in OT times? GB |
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3 | Christians before Jesus came | Bible general Archive 2 | Glory Bound | 128770 | ||
Gen 15:6 And he had faith in the Lord, and it was put to his account as righteousness. But did righteousness provide salvation? Has it ever? I don’t think so. Why did the Lord require sacrifices in OT times? I still contend that, in a more literal sense, OT salvation depended on “living right, sacrificing and obeying the word of God.” Likewise today, we are told to live as Jesus did. To do so we must make some sort of sacrifices on a daily basis, whether it be avoiding an argument even when we know we are right, committing some act of kindness at our own expense, or what. Back then, they simply had to believe Gods Word and live it. Today one simply has to believe in the Son He sent to pay our sin debt, confess our sins, repent and accept His gift. The rest will come with spiritual growth. GB |
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4 | Christians before Jesus came | Bible general Archive 2 | Glory Bound | 128777 | ||
I give up! As I noted in an earlier post, I am familiar with the antics of many who use these boards. Your antics are obvious and I have no desire for farther debate. Open your bible. Read it with an open mind and closed mouth, for it will be of no benifit for you to yack at it either. Then read it again. Discussion ended. GB |
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5 | Christians before Jesus came | Bible general Archive 2 | Glory Bound | 128779 | ||
Same ole Hank. Precious soul. A little older. A little wiser. More than a little slyer. I love reading your posts Hank. In more ways than one, they are truly an inspiration. GB |
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6 | Christians before Jesus came | Bible general Archive 2 | Glory Bound | 128842 | ||
(According as it is written, God hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear;) unto this day. GB |
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7 | homosexuality | Bible general Archive 2 | Glory Bound | 130465 | ||
Hi Emmaus Considering what is said in Ephesians 6:12 "NIV" "For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms." Would you not say that it is likely that those guilty of the lifestyle of the sodomite could be "possessed"? Many would label me radical, but something in me tells me that there is so much that we simply do not know, and I feel that there are hoards of "spirits of evil" out there inflicting humanity to an extent which no one is fully are of, or willing to admit to. i.e. Spirits of alcoholism, theft, perversion, and on and on and on. I know there are man made labels and excuses for these "diseases." but I feel that it is simple. There simply isn't enough adherence to what is said in the Word. GB |
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8 | Is the bible complete and inerrant? | Bible general Archive 2 | Glory Bound | 130466 | ||
Hi Ed. Forgive me, this is off the subject, but this subject put me in mind of the following. With all the "versions" of scripture, do you not feel, like I, that they are diluting and possiably deluding scripture, and leading us to the verge of another division? Surely the time is near! GB |
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9 | Is the bible complete and inerrant? | Bible general Archive 2 | Glory Bound | 130468 | ||
Where is Jesus' statement you paraphrased, Ed? I've probably read over it a hundred times. That's what I get for using the NIV. I read it too fast and overlook too much. KJ makes me think, and the older I get, the harder that gets. GB |
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10 | I married wrong woman,what can I do? | Bible general Archive 2 | Glory Bound | 130575 | ||
My wife, which is 20 years my senior, was married to a man she didn't love for over 30 years. Like many, she married to get out of the nest. She is a wonderful Christian, the most spiritually influential person I have ever known. She really didn't know him when they first married. He became a thief, and a liar and remained such till near the end of his life. She nearly single handedly raised all 5 of her children. She will occasionally tell me of the embarrassment she endured because of the lack of moral character he had. I have studied scripture concerning marriage and divorce and am convinced that it is because of my wife that her deceased previous husband managed to accept the Savior. The scripture comes to mind, and I paraphrase, “No grater love has anyone, than that they would give their life for another.” She gave much of her life to someone whom, other than as another child of God, she simply did not love. Although there are 3 ways out of a marriage according to scripture, there is no doubt that self-sacrifice and love of the Lord is the more honorable route Joyce and I are rapidly approaching our 20th anniversary. I have 5 children; 4 boys and 1 girl. My oldest son is 3 years older than I. (I love to tell folks that I got started EARLIER than life.) I have 16 grandkids and 13 grates. All steps of course, but they all love me, and I love them as though they were my own. They are, and will always be my only children. GB |
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11 | Is the bible complete and inerrant? | Bible general Archive 2 | Glory Bound | 130577 | ||
Actually, the deeper I get into scripture, the more I come to the realization that scripture as a whole, says many things that it does not say dirrectly. I thought sure that I had read your thought in scripture. That: "Jesus said the next great event would be His return." It may be unwritten, but I believe that it is there. GB |
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12 | homosexuality | Bible general Archive 2 | Glory Bound | 130580 | ||
Hank, did I say "a homosexual was any more "possessed" than any other garden-variety sinner?" Hank, Did I say that "Scripture lowered the boom on one class of sinners while letting another class off the hook with a light slap on the wrist?" What did I state that was not scriptural, Hank? Sin is sin. There is but one unpardonable sin. Did I "state" anything otherwise? GB |
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13 | should a catholic marraige be sanctified | Bible general Archive 2 | Glory Bound | 131497 | ||
Steve. Without injecting opinion, can you please quote the scripture that supports your statement? Isn't a "non believer" not a Christian? What of the Believer who is (married) to the "non Believer?" One could also state that a heathen marriage is when a heathen man marries a heathen woman. Likewise an American marriage is when an American man marries an American women, and so on. Is this what you are stating? GB |
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14 | Have you ever read a book by a Catholic? | Bible general Archive 2 | Glory Bound | 131528 | ||
Personally, I currently have absolutely no desire to read anything you recommend, either pro or anti Catholic. Nor do I desire to fit the classification you consider scholarly, by doing such. I simply asked a couple questions out of curiosity. If you aren't qualified to answer them, so be it. GB |
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15 | Have you ever read a book by a Catholic? | Bible general Archive 2 | Glory Bound | 131536 | ||
I see no connection between John 20:22-23 and any of my questions. I have no doubt that even the Catholics haven't anyone amoung them whom Jesus breathed on at the time this scripture reflects. Can you be a little more specific? All who are saved have recieved the Holy Spirit. Acts Chapter 2. Dear soul, are you a devout Catholic? If so, can you not answer my simple questions? Thanks for trying. GB |
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16 | They were not born again at time of marr | Bible general Archive 2 | Glory Bound | 131544 | ||
THE True Church? Catholic?!?! Would THE True Church not be the Church founded by the Apostles? Was that Church Catholic, Protestant or Jewish? I doubt that it was either. It was CHRISTian. Christ centered. I would attest that whatever the Church, be it Catholic, Protestant, Jewish or Full Gospel, if Christ is its foundation, then it is THE true Church. What I fail to understand is why this simple fact is not understood by all. In this day of apostasy, false prophesy and false teachers, it is apparent that it is not the true Church, which is in question. The question should concern the sincerity and familiarity with THE WORD of those who profess. Isn’t the Church a collective body of Christians, or of those who profess to believe in Christ, and acknowledge him to be the Savior of mankind? Aren’t the professors (those who profess to be Christians) the Church? I would put all in mind of what Christ stated in John 15:5 “I am the Vine, you are the branches. He who abides in Me, and I in him, the same brings forth much fruit; for without Me you can do nothing.” And what Paul said in 1Co 12:11-12 But the one and the same Spirit works all these things, distributing separately to each one as He desires. For as the body is one and has many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body; so also is Christ. The phrase “THE true Church”, formulates the following picture in my mind. I can see my foot saying to my ear, “I am THE true member of this body.” If one would ask, which is “THE true collective body of Christian?” I expect there would be just as much debate on the matter. Can we not ALL simply come together and “know them by the fruits they bare”? GB |
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17 | Have you ever read a book by a Catholic? | Bible general Archive 2 | Glory Bound | 131554 | ||
OK. Thanks for the additional enlightenment. James 5:16 makes it much clearer. You have most definantly sparked a topic of research for me concerning John 20:23. Though I have read it many times, I have never fully understood it. It is time for that understanding on my part. I'm still curious concerning the praying to the saints though. GB |
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18 | Have you ever read a book by a Catholic? | Bible general Archive 2 | Glory Bound | 131793 | ||
The tone indicated in your note dear friend, causes me to loose all interest in discussing the matter with you. Such a tone automatically puts me in mind of 2 Ti 2:24. Your tone is quite contrary to that passage. It invites what we are told we "MUST NOT DO." God Bless GB |
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19 | Have you ever read a book by a Catholic? | Bible general Archive 2 | Glory Bound | 131794 | ||
You may wish to read my most recient response to you as well. GB |
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20 | They were not born again at time of marr | Bible general Archive 2 | Glory Bound | 131796 | ||
I take no offence. I would recommend a good book though. "While Men Slept" by Kerby F Fannin, PD.D. It gives a good history of the origin of various denominations, including the Catholic and their shenanigans, as well as those of many other denominations. Personally I feel sorry for the countless hoards who are either too illiterate or downright lazy, to get into the Word for themselves. This covers ALL denominations, Catholic, Protestant, Jewish, and on and on... What I do take offence at, are the professed Christians who, anyone who has ever studied scripture can see straight through. It is absolutely amazing how many will follow them. I guess it's a matter of charisma. It is sad though, that people don't realize that the enemy is often filled to overflowing with such. Thank you my friend. Weary and frustrated as we may become in this battle, we must not give up. For He who is in us is stronger and mightier than he who is in the world. Without Him, we are nothing. We can do nothing. So what does that say about those we battle? God Bless GB |
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