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1 | does this mean a person is unforgiven | NT general | King T | 222629 | ||
Hi Doc, I think the first time I just hurried through your comment hence missed the second part to your comment. Well, where I come from English is not my native language; it is my third language I’d say, so I do not master it that much, but I try to understand it. To best understand the second part to your comment where you said, “Note also that repentance does not merit redemption. The redeemed live a life of repentance.” I had to refer to the dictionary and not the Bible. Primarily I wanted to understand the “merit” part of your statement. The Oxford Dictionary that I used defines merit in Theology as “good deeds entitling someone to a future reward” and I trust this is what you meant. I trust my response to your comment will prompt you to qualify your answer but I strongly disagree with your statement. In redemption a price is paid for a product and in Christian terms the product was the world and the price paid was the blood of Jesus. Jesus Christ bought the whole world and not only the believers or the Christians. He bought the whole world, the sinners included. 1 John 2:2 (KJV) “And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.” The difference is the Christian is aware of this transaction and has made a decision of acceptance. The Christian has repented and is reconciled to Christ. Your statement will be generally true as a cliché, but is not true in the Christian perspective. The Bible specifically states in Romans 10:13 (KJV) that “For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.” Reading from verse 9 (AMP) of the same chapter “Because if you acknowledge and confess with your lips that Jesus is Lord and in your heart believe (adhere to, trust in, and rely on the truth) that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved.” This therefore explains the calling upon the Name, not just a mere shouting of the Name. I will rather you read through from verse 9 up to 14. I wonder why the Bible would say whosoever shall call on the name if your statement is true. The Christian has gone beyond redemption dude, the Christian has been justified. In redemption you pay for the product with all its imperfections (sin), but in justification the sinner is declared not guilty, the sins are not just forgiven but completely wiped off – that is justification. Romans 3:24 (KJV)” Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:” The price was already paid hence no need to pay another price which is why we were freely justified. It does not end with redemption. The law could not justify, Romans 3:20-24 (AMP) “For no person will be justified (made righteous, acquitted, and judged acceptable) in His sight by observing the works prescribed by the Law. For the real function of the Law is to make men recognize and be conscious of sin not mere perception, but an acquaintance with sin which works toward repentance, faith, and holy character. 21 But now the righteousness of God has been revealed independently and altogether apart from the Law, although actually it is attested by the Law and the Prophets, 22 Namely, the righteousness of God which comes by believing with personal trust and confident reliance on Jesus Christ (the Messiah). And it is meant for all who believe. For there is no distinction, 23 Since all have sinned and are falling short of the honor and glory which God bestows and receives. 24 All are justified and made upright and in right standing with God, freely and gratuitously by His grace (His unmerited favor and mercy), through the redemption which is provided in Christ Jesus,” I had to include verse 23 to avoid being accused for selecting favorable verses. If you read the whole chapter, you will realize that verse 23 should not be read in isolation and it refers to those under the law. The law did not remit sins if you could fully appreciate verse 20 of Romans 3, but Jesus did. Galatians 4:4-5 (KJV) “But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law, 5 To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons.” I do not want to take most of your time wish I could say more for there is more on the subject. Stay blessed, King T! |
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2 | does this mean a person is unforgiven | NT general | DocTrinsograce | 222641 | ||
PS You are handling English -- both in composition as well as comprehension -- very well. I have but a single language, yet my handling of it is a continual challenge. | ||||||
3 | does this mean a person is unforgiven | NT general | King T | 222648 | ||
Dude, the only time I have to speak or write English is when I communicate to someone who does not speak my vernacular. I don't like having to always refer to the dictionary to understand. Next time, please use simpler English - less of these big words. | ||||||
4 | does this mean a person is unforgiven | NT general | BMyers | 222649 | ||
Doc was giving you a 'pat on the back'. Actually, communicating with Doc and reading his post has challenged me to get a better understanding of some of the terms that are important to the Christian faith. You have my respect with your ability to be able to converse in more than one language. Yet, I would challenge you to look at the conversations with Doc not as struggle, but another opportunity to increase your knowledge of Bible and the English language. Based on my past experience with Doc, if there is something I haven't comprehended, he has always been willing to explain and help me understand. Brad |
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5 | does this mean a person is unforgiven | NT general | King T | 222654 | ||
Thanks Brad, Yes! Doc is so deep and well read. He referred me to some materials that I never thought existed or thought I'd read. To be honest, I can't take my mind off the materials. He indeed challenged me and I am glad I joined this forum. I keep on checking the posts for an input from the Doc. I more than respect him. I greatly appreciate his and your "pat on the back". Honestly, if he were to break down the English, I sure will miss him. Hei Doc, Don't change the English. Keep me running for the dictionary, before long you'd have assisted in improving my communication. Thank you all, King T! |
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