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1 | Did John really baptise Jesus?? | Bible general Archive 4 | lightedsteps | 223531 | ||
Brother Beja Heb 4:15 For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin. How could Jesus be touched with the feeling of our infirmities, unless He actually had those infirmities Himself, and being in all points tempted like as we are, unless He did have the potential to give in to that temptation, which is inherent in man. There had to be the same possibility of sinning in His flesh, as we have in ours, in order for Him to be able to overcome everything for us, because we can't. There is no temptation without the possibility of succumbing to that temptation. To have the sin nature of all men, does not in any way mean that Jesus had sin in Him, or that He did sin, what it means, is that He had the potential for sin, anything less than that potential makes Him less than a man, He had to have the potential to succumb to temptation, otherwise the temptation would be void. We all know of the temptation that Jesus underwent in the wilderness for the forty days after He was baptized. Luke 4:1-13 But all of these temptations were addressed to the Son Of God by Satan. Here then is a temptation that Jesus endured as a man. Mat 26:39 And he went a little further, and fell on his face, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me: nevertheless not as I will, but as thou wilt. Mat 26:42 He went away again the second time, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if this cup may not pass away from me, except I drink it, thy will be done. Mat 26:44 And he left them, and went away again, and prayed the third time, saying the same words. These are the prayers of a man in the throes of mental anguish, being tormented with the knowledge of the task before Him. As a man, this death He was facing was not something He wanted to do, but He submitted to the will of God. If He had walked away as he definitely wanted to, He would still have been the son of God, but in His walking away safely, He would not have secured "US" to the utmost. He has felt our fear, as He had to feel everything else we think or feel. This could not be accomplished by anything less than being 100 percent human being, which includes all of the frailties of man. Grace be unto you lightedsteps |
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2 | Did John really baptise Jesus?? | Bible general Archive 4 | Beja | 223535 | ||
Lightedsteps, Your mistake is basically at two points. 1.) You think sin nature is required to be tempted. As our brother Tim has pointed out this is not the case, as Adam and Eve should clearly show us. 2.) You missunderstand what sin nature implies and therefore don't realise what you are saying. Having a sin nature doesn't mean that we can be tempted, it means that we are so depraved that we will unfailingly yet freely embrace sin and rebellion against God. This Christ did not have in Him. As Doc so often reminds us, scripture teaches our actions flow from what we are, not the other way around. We sin because that is our nature, Christ did not sin because His nature is righteousness. In Christ, Beja |
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