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1 | Mary's virginity remained intact | Bible general Archive 3 | Parable | 180585 | ||
Of course it was a miracle. That wasn't the question. Please bear with my process, there is a point to it, and its maybe not to "logically explain it away." Legalistically, since Mary was still a virgin, no sex act occurred, so technically it can't have been adultery. Yet, there are many broken people who have experienced the pain of a spouse who was for all practical purposes unfaithful, but perhaps not sexually, rather emotionally with someone else. This is perhaps even more of a betrayal than the physical. For them, the question of what constitutes infidelity is not just about whether or not intercourse occurred. Certainly what happened between Mary and the Holy Spirit was intimate. In other words, does it not qualify as adultery by virture of the fact it was God who was involved, or that it was not sexual? (I think perhaps both, and seek scriptural support for the former aspect of that.) That is, if it were possible for a man to impregnate Mary without having sex with her, or even physical contact, how would it be seen and more importantly, would Joseph feel betrayed? I think we would have a problem with that scenario, and would expect no less from Joseph. So, my purpose is to illuminate why it may be different because it was God, not man. Scripture tells that Joseph, a righteous man, considered divorcing Mary because she was pregnant not by him. The angel told him not to do so because the child she carried was from God. Either this means that what happened was somehow not was not adultery, or if it was, it was somehow justified, like not all killing is murder, e.g. self-defense or execution by the state. This is exegesis, not an attempt to disparage God. |
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2 | Mary's virginity remained intact | Bible general Archive 3 | humbledbyhisgrace | 180590 | ||
Parable, Perhaps it’s your hermeneutics that fail you. Consider this, you have taken God, Mary, and the sin of adultery and are trying to explain the conception. I would argue based on your attempt at exegesis on this matter you have failed to consider several important things that are required to properly do so. 1) Know what the scriptures teach about God. 2) Know what the scriptures teach about Mary. 3) Know what the scriptures teach about sin. 4) Know what the scriptures teach regarding the conception. Example: You have chosen to include the sin of adultery. Where did that come from? This is not mentioned in the scriptures regarding this event. Yet you are trying to attribute it to the event. In my opinion, your mistake here is not understanding what scripture teaches us about what sin is as well as what scripture teaches us about God. Answer this question for yourself. What does the bible say sin is? Not the different types of sin, but what is sin according to God’s word? Once you have answered that question and come to an understanding of what the scriptures say about God and Mary and the conception then you should be better prepared to explain it. You appear to be attempting exegesis without proper understanding and/or elimination of the major facts of what you seek to explain. Instead, you are assuming much and applying that which does not apply. You attempt to reconcile it based on your assumptions and faulty reasoning which appear to be rooted in the flesh and not the Spirit. Understand? By Faith, Steve |
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3 | Mary's virginity remained intact | Bible general Archive 3 | Parable | 180591 | ||
I'm not trying to prove anything, so I don't see how I can have failed. My purpose is not to convict God of wrongdoing, but rather elucidate the scriptures or biblical principles that satisfy the question. If your argument is that this question is logically incoherent, then explain on the basis of scripture or orthodox theology. If your argument is that its not adultery because it wasn't sexual, or that the law does not apply to God, then cite the scriptures that support this. If there is another way to understand this event such that the question, although fairly asked does not apply, then please be specific in your references. In Peace, Parable |
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