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1 | Please I'm looking for your opinion! | Bible general Archive 2 | EdB | 102065 | ||
John I have absolutely no doubt God is in control of tomorrow however I do believe prayer changes things. Which occurs first? I think you find yourself in the old chicken and egg go around. However whether you want to admit it or not your are fatalistic and very much do hold to Kismet. You view God in total control and we are made to act and react according to His plan. I say God's plan is so all inclusive that no matter how we act or react we fit into His plan. Exodus 32:10-11 Now therefore, let Me alone, that My wrath may burn hot against them and I may consume them. And I will make of you a great nation." [11] Then Moses pleaded with the Lord his God, and said: "Lord, why does Your wrath burn hot against Your people whom You have brought out of the land of Egypt with great power and with a mighty hand? Genesis 18:20-26 And the Lord said, "Because the outcry against Sodom and Gomorrah is great, and because their sin is very grave, [21] I will go down now and see whether they have done altogether according to the outcry against it that has come to Me; and if not, I will know." [22] Then the men turned away from there and went toward Sodom, but Abraham still stood before the Lord. [23] And Abraham came near and said, "Would You also destroy the righteous with the wicked? [24] Suppose there were fifty righteous within the city; would You also destroy the place and not spare it for the fifty righteous that were in it? [25] Far be it from You to do such a thing as this, to slay the righteous with the wicked, so that the righteous should be as the wicked; far be it from You! Shall not the Judge of all the earth do right?" [26] So the Lord said, "If I find in Sodom fifty righteous within the city, then I will spare all the place for their sakes." Numbers 11:2 Then the people cried out to Moses, and when Moses prayed to the Lord, the fire was quenched. Numbers 21:7 Therefore the people came to Moses, and said, "We have sinned, for we have spoken against the Lord and against you; pray to the Lord that He take away the serpents from us." So Moses prayed for the people. Deut. 9:20 And the Lord was very angry with Aaron and would have destroyed him; so I prayed for Aaron also at the same time. 2 Samuel 24:17 Then David spoke to the Lord when he saw the angel who was striking the people, and said, "Surely I have sinned, and I have done wickedly; but these sheep, what have they done? Let Your hand, I pray, be against me and against my father's house." Even Jesus went to the cross out of obedience not because God forced Him. His prayer in the garden reveals this along with Jesus' claim that legions of angels were at his disposal to free Him should He so desire. Your arguement doesn't hold water in light of what has actually taken place in scripture. I don't want to argue this with you and I won't so let it go! EdB |
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2 | Please I'm looking for your opinion! | Bible general Archive 2 | Radioman2 | 102140 | ||
Prayer does not change GOD. Prayer changes US. | ||||||
3 | Please I'm looking for your opinion! | Bible general Archive 2 | EdB | 102145 | ||
John Yet scripture clearly states God halted what He was doing because of the prayers. EdB |
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4 | Please I'm looking for your opinion! | Bible general Archive 2 | Radioman2 | 102149 | ||
"I am the Lord, I do not change" EdB: Prayer does not change GOD. Prayer changes US. Scripture clearly says: "I am the Lord, I do not change". NASB Malachi 3:6 "For I, the LORD, do not change; therefore you, O sons of Jacob, are not consumed. AMPLIFIED Malachi 3:6 For I am the Lord, I do not change; that is why you, O sons of Jacob, are not consumed. Grace to you, my brother Radioman2 |
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5 | Please I'm looking for your opinion! | Bible general Archive 2 | Morant61 | 102152 | ||
Greetings Radioman2! I would agree that prayer does not change God's nature. However, there are cases in the Bible where prayer changed God's plans. Consider Nineveh! John 3:4 tells us of God's plan for Niveveh - 'Forty more days and Niveveh will be overturned'. The people heard the message, repented, and prayed to God. John 3:10 tells us that God responded to their repentance by not doing what He had said He was going to do. Now, what would have happended had the citizens of Niveveh not prayed? According to the Lord's message, they would have been destroyed. So, even though God's nature is immutable, His interaction with us is not. In the Old Testament, animal sacrifices were made. Now, they aren't because Christ is our sacrifice. That is a change in relationship. In the Old Testament, the Holy Spirit came upon people for certain tasks at certain time, but now He dwells within His people. That is a change in relationship. But, I would agree that prayer does not change God. It certainly changes us, and it can change circumstances as well. Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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6 | Please I'm looking for your opinion! | Bible general Archive 2 | Radioman2 | 102194 | ||
Tim: Agreed! --Radioman2 :-) |
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