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1 | Christians before Jesus came | Bible general Archive 2 | chesed | 128700 | ||
That is not what I said. I believe that in just about every one of my posts that I have clearly stated that Jesus was the fulfillment of the OT. What I am saying is that there are very few direct 1-1 correlating prophesies about Jesus in the OT which no body else could have fulfilled. Most of the things in the NT where Jesus fulfills a prophesy are prophesy by analogy, type-antitype, etc. There is nothing wrong about this. I don't think that this takes away from Jesus as being divine...I am simply trying to show that the 1-1 direct prophesies about Jesus (eg.Isa 53)are more rare than the other types (Hos.11, Isa.7, etc)which were not originally about Jesus, but were later 'fulfilled' by him. This is not heretical or anything like that. It is just practical, Biblical Theology with respect to the OT context. I believe the same things that you do about Jesus..I just think that the Jesus we know in the NT does not need to be read into the OT as much as we like for him to be. He is just fine as he is in the NT. blessings, chesed |
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2 | Christians before Jesus came | Bible general Archive 2 | srbaegon | 128737 | ||
Hello chesed, "I have clearly stated that Jesus was the fulfillment of the OT." No, it hasn't been clear. That's been part of the problem. You have qualified most of your fulfillment answers. I accept most of what you say here. We just took the l-o-n-g way around to get there. This statement I cannot agree with: "I just think that the Jesus we know in the NT does not need to be read into the OT as much as we like for him to be. He is just fine as he is in the NT." The problem I have is that both the NT writers and the Lord himself state flatly that he was the subject of those prophecies, analogies, types, and encounters. Steve |
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3 | Christians before Jesus came | Bible general Archive 2 | chesed | 128739 | ||
I see what you mean. I am sorry that I can't agree with you here. I know what Jesus said about himself. I believe what he said about himself. I also believe that there were other people that the OT spoke about. Ultimately, the bible is about Jesus. We agree here. I simply say that many OT prophesies were also fufilled by someone else in that time. Some OT prophesies were not about Jesus, and they were never fulfilled. Some prophesies were not ONLY about Jesus, yet Jesus fulfilled them. Some passages were not about Jesus, yet he gave greater meaning to them, thus 'fulfilling' them. Some prophesies were ONLY about Jesus, and he did fulfill them. | ||||||
4 | Christians before Jesus came | Bible general Archive 2 | srbaegon | 128743 | ||
Hello chesed, You are correct that several prophecies had a double fulfillment. "Some OT prophesies were not about Jesus, and they were never fulfilled." Not yet, anyway. :-) "Some passages were not about Jesus, yet he gave greater meaning to them, thus 'fulfilling' them." Give me an example. I don't want to misunderstand. Steve |
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5 | Christians before Jesus came | Bible general Archive 2 | chesed | 128745 | ||
I think that one we have stated would be Hosea 11 | ||||||