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1 | people comminting susiced | Bible general Archive 2 | JCrichton | 117384 | ||
Hi, CurtMan (The)! You make some nice points... But what did Jesus say about those who choose to drop of His hands? Did He say you are forgiven, go do as you please? Did the parable of the seeds mean that "well some of the seeds just had bad luck so don't worry, be happy"? Did not Christ say THOSE WHO LOOK BACK CANNOT BE MY DISCIPLES? Explained who the Pharisees and Sadducees blasphemed against the Holy Spirit--was it not because they rejected Christ? And, if someone claiming all the Biblical text that bring salvation than reject Jesus because "life is so unbearable, so unfair, so heartbreaking, so poor, so rich, so long, so short, so complicated... are they not rejecting Christ when they commit themselves to ending their lives or taking the lives of their spauses and children and then their own? Don't get me wrong... a person who takes his or her life (regardless of the reason) has only God to answer to (just as all others who kill with words or thought or inaction...)--Judas may well have received Divini dispensation during the last moments of his life--, and only God has the final answer! But for a Christian to say, "well it is Biblical, we can't lose salvation once we get it, cause Christ said so" he or she is delusional. Each one of us must remove the old self (carnal) and put on the new self (spirit) and serve God with all of our mind, body, and spirit. God Bless! Angel |
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2 | people comminting susiced | Bible general Archive 2 | TheCurtMan | 117433 | ||
Angel, It's to my understanding that a Christian is a person who has accepted Christ as their Lord and Savior. According to Gal. 5:16, we have two natures, a fleshly nature and a spiritual nature. I would love to tell you that since my relationship with Christ that I have not committed a sin. But I can't. Can you?? Personally, I'm having a difficult time understand why God would tell us to forgive one another when He won't forgive us for committing a sin that's not even the unpardonable sin. "Once saved always saved" has been discussed, debated and even argued over on this forum. Some believe you can loose your salvation, and some believe you can't. I BELIEVE YOU CAN'T!! One of the many reasons that I believe this is because "There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus", and if you followed Romans 8 down to the 35th verse, you’ll see that there is absolutely nothing in heaven or hell that can separate me from the love of God which is in Christ Jesus, and I do believe that would include suicide. If I committed suicide and went to hell (figuratively speaking), then the question is, was I a Christian to begin with. There will be many that say Lord, Lord, and will be denied because Jesus will claim to NEVER have known them, not, “I knew him at a point and time in his life and he fell away”, but, “I NEVER knew you”. Are there levels of sin?? Is the taking of a life any worst then lying, stealing, or cheating on ones taxes in the eyes of God?? Perfection is not one of my strong points. I’m working in that area, but I’m not there yet. I have been known to be wrong, and if I am, then pray for me, ‘cause it would probably take an act of God to change my stance on Loosing one’s Salvation. The CurtMan |
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3 | people comminting susiced | Bible general Archive 2 | JCrichton | 117497 | ||
"to those who are in Christ Jesus" Hi CurtMan! You have stated the operative words: "those who are in Christ Jesus!" God does not change! Once He came to rescue us SALVATION is for the asking. But as Jesus Himself pointed out to the disciples: do not be glad that you can cure the sick and cast out demons; be glad that your names are written in the book of Life! (Paraphrased) He also warned that: "I am the vine." It is not a contractual obligation that binds the Father to us; it is our acceptance of Jesus Christ as our Lord and Savior! But to do this we can't simply come to Him with lip-service! What else did Jesus say?: "Sacrifice and holocaust did not please you, but you form a body for me!" We can't do anything for our salvation. But just as the last minute guests, those who are invited must come dressed accordingly!: "Stay in my Word--which simply means obey my commandments--and I will set you free!" (Ok... poetical license and paraphrasing!) CurtMan, God is not a man to go back on His Word--the Gift of Salvation is Eternal, but we must act upon our confession... rearranging God's Word to suit the business of the day is not "Keep my Word!" Here's what Jesus said about the world: And the judgement is this: though the light has come into the world people have preferred darkness to the light because their deeds were evil. And indeed, everybody who does wrong hates the light and avoids it, to prevent his actions from being shown up; but whoever does the truth comes out into the light, so that what he is doing may plainly appear as done in God. (John 3:19-21) Are there levels of sin? Only God knows for sure. But I remember a passage where Jesus was comparing the destruction of several groups of people and He asked His audience if they thought that those who were punished were punished because their sin was greater than those who were listening to Him. Another example is where He talks about the woman who had sinned profusely and another person who had not--then He asked which of the two would demonstrate more love towards God, the simple sinner or the extensive habitual sinner? Another comparison that I can give you is the one where Jesus talks about the aflluent gentleman who set out to gather workers for his field... he gathered throughout the day exacting one single contract with all the workers and paying them accordingly... if we are all sinners in the eyes of God, can we attempt to outshine other sinners citing "my sin is not as grave as yours?" Was that not the sin of the affluent guy who stepped onto the front of the Temple "good-ole boying himself" because he was not like that sinner at the back? We spend so much time arguing points about how this should be and why this is... doesn't it remind you of the Pharisees and Sadducees, always sticking to the letter of the Law; yet always usurping Gods command and authority? I pray not only for you but for all of us, that the Holy Spirit guide us to the Truth and bless us with humility and obedience so that we may meet Christ on His terms and not ours! God Bless! Angel |
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