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1 | Does the Holy Spirit work differently? | Bible general Archive 2 | Ray | 115104 | ||
Hi ischus, This discussion is not only about semantics of in, upon, indwelling, and filled with; it is also about interpretation of a lower or upper case (S)spirit. I speak of a spirit of love and think of it as a lower case spirit. But when one speaks of the Spirit, of the Person (as shown by capitalization), then we should speak of Him. I see that your post has spoken of "it" when you were talking of both the spirit and the Spirit. 1) You wrote, "On the other hand, we have the "gift" of the Spirit, the eternal, indwelling of the Spirit. It does not come and go as God sees fit. It is always present." I would agree that He is "always helping, comforting, encouraging, sanctifying, and stretching us." The gift of the Spirit, the indwelling of the Spirit, is to my mind what God has done for us. As sons of God, we have Christ dwelling in us because we keep His word. John 14:23, "Jesus answered and said to him, "If anyone loves Me, he will keep My/ word; and My Father will love him, and (We) will come to him, and make Our abode with him." This is the gift of the Spirit from the Spirit; a promise of indwelling. Christ in us, the hope of glory. 2) However, I see also the gift of the *holy *spirit. It is a gift from God. It is what I see us as being "filled" with. It is the word of Christ richly dwelling within us. Colossians 3:16, "Let the word of Christ richly dwell within you, with all wisdom teaching and admonishing one another with psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing with thankfulness in your hearts to God." That is what I call being filled with the spirit. It is what we are told to do; that is the will of the Lord. Ephesians 5:18, "And do not get drunk with wine, for that is dissipation, but be filled with the *spirit, 19 speaking to one another in psalms and hymns, and spiritual songs, singing and making melody with your heart to the Lord;..." Ephesians 5:20-Colossians 3:17 Thanks be to God! From the heart, Ray |
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2 | 2nd ? Did Spirit save them? | Bible general Archive 2 | arrow1 | 115165 | ||
2nd question, When the Holy Spirit fell on the apostles at pentecost, was that to save them or just to give them the ability to speak in tongues? If it was just to give the ability, then, obviously they were already saved. |
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3 | 2nd ? Did Spirit save them? | Bible general Archive 2 | Rowdy | 115169 | ||
I don't see any scriptures to support the idea of the Apostles being saved with the baptism of the Holy Spirit. Further in this area, we do see the folks (Cornelius and his family) in Acts 10, as getting the same treatment by the Holy Spirit. The big difference here we see that Cornelius and his family also do get themselves baptized and added to the church, AFTER being baptized by the Holy Spirit. The main purpose we see in the manifestation of all the miraculous powers in this first phase of Christianity was to confirm the words as coming from God as in Mark 16:20. These powers were bestowed upon individuals in one of two ways: 1) from the Holy Spirit as in Acts 2 OR 2) through the laying of hands from the Apostles as in Acts 8:18, 1 Tim 4:14 or 2 Tim 1:6. The Plan of Salvation which gets people added to the church was instituted for all mankind after the death, burial and resurrection of our Lord in accordance with His Last Will and Testament. Its purpose is quite different from the baptism of the Holy Spirit as cited above. Thus, we see the endowment of miraculous powers DID NOT necessarily mean the people receiving these powers were saved already. Although we do not see the Apostles actually being baptised, neither do we see their being saved without being baptized. We do see the need for baptism with Cornelius in Acts 10. God bless you in your study of God's Word. |
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