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1 | "Seers" and how they saw | OT general | bwhitman | 145515 | ||
In the Old Testament the word "seer" appears and is refered to as a spiritual office designated by God. We know for instance that Samuel was a "seer" and we know further that a "seer" must be a prophet but not all prophets were "seers". Is there Hebrew research available that describes in any detail how the "seer" physically functioned in his office. | ||||||
2 | "Seers" and how they saw | OT general | greentwiga | 145516 | ||
I don't know about someones specific research, but I do know some about the Old Testament. There were various sources of knowledge about God. Seers were people that saw. Compare this to the oracle at Delphi (oracle - to see ) She saw visions when she sat by a spring in a grove of trees. One word in Hebrew for spring is the word for eye. Abraham frequently camped by the trees of Mamre. The seer might have functioned like that. Another type of office was the dreamer. From Joseph to Daniel, dreams and dream interpretation was considered important. A third office was the Hearer. Many prophet say This is the WORD of God. The focus was on having heard God's voice. These men spoke what they heard, not what they saw or dreamed. Some peophets would get revelation by more than one method. Douglas |
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3 | "Seers" and how they saw | OT general | DocTrinsograce | 145518 | ||
Dear Douglas, Setting aside the circuitous and eristic line of reasoning used to connect the Delphic oracle to Abraham (via springs, eyes, trees, and camp sites)... Where in scripture are the distinctions in offices that you identify as "dreamer," "seer," and "hearer?" In Him, Doc PS In the OT I find one reference to the office of midwife, one reference to the office of king, and all the rest to the office of priest. The NT also mentions the office of priest, but adds overseer and apostle. |
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4 | "Seers" and how they saw | OT general | greentwiga | 145523 | ||
OK, I was just following the first persons terminology, not necessarily an official Office as such. My focus was on the words Chozen and Ra'ah, both meaning seer. Nabi means prophet, from to speak. There was also a category chalam, for the dreamer and his dreams. Though the outside world of Old Testament times is not inspired, it can help give us a flavor for how people saw things. Of course, the Old Testament Seer did not function the same as the other "seers" of other religions. Since there were good prophets and evil prophets (like of Baal) and good dreamers and evil dreamers, good seers and evil seers, the world and the Bible had some reason for lumping those people into similar categories. Where the Bible is silent, I do not mind looking at other sources for a flavor idea. Still, I do not want to argue about a point that I was not trying to make such as offices. | ||||||
5 | "Seers" defined | OT general | bwhitman | 145538 | ||
My question should have been more specific. The position is not my question. How the seer saw is. I understand that the Kings used the seer to determine the intent of foreign representatives. The seer could advise the King as to whether the representatives were pure intentioned or meant evil. Did the seer perhaps see colors or devined the intent? I suggest that there is some meat with this potato. | ||||||
6 | "Seers" defined | OT general | greentwiga | 145551 | ||
I have a friend who lays her hands on people and sees what is wrong with the body. I was having some health problems and worried that it was heart related. She laid her hands on me and described a constriction and its location, plus a sidewards hole or cavity. She said it was not the heart. I went back to the doctor and started demanding some other tests. It turns out that I had acid reflux, and as is standard, the stomach cells were migrating up into the esophagus. They were not fast enough, because there was some damage, thereatning to become a hole, off to one side. How did this Christian see what the doctors needed a barium swallow and X-rays to see? I do not know. God gifts people and enables them with abilities that we can simply describe the results of. We have more information about how the false imitators did it in the middle east than the Bible gives us. The current theory is that the false oracles used a halocenogenic gas to achieve their visions. It is one thing to be able to see auras around people and interpret them correctly (honest or scoundrel) it is another thing to see exactly what the person is up to. Remember, the false seers "saw" by human effort, not colors but information. They gave confusing information. "If you attack a great nation will fall." The King attacked and a great nation fell, his own. God's seers saw because God gave them specific information (no drugs). They gave specific advise to the king. They were always right. Remember,Trying to attain God's gifts by human effort leads to the false imitation. I only refer to the false to give us some idea about How the seers saw. since even the false did not see by colors or auras, it is unlikely that the real did either. greentwiga |
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7 | Auras? | OT general | bwhitman | 145570 | ||
I suggest that there is something more to the aura to the point of some "gifted" folks can divine spiritual motives. | ||||||
8 | Auras? | OT general | greentwiga | 145572 | ||
Use the aura thing as a tool to minister to people. As you grow in maturity, see if the aura becomes more or less important. God's gifts grow stronger. I just don't think it was connected to the seer. That doesn't mean it is not of God. The prophets were told that even if every prophesy came true, if it caused people to leave off worshipping God, reject it. God bless your ministry greentwiga |
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