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1 | Predestination vs free will--a thought.. | Bible general Archive 1 | shalor | 101275 | ||
What make the concept diificult is that God is not limited to our concept of time. The fact he exists in yesterday. today, and tomorrow allows him to have a plan that unfolds to us. The sovereignty of God is not versus the free will of man but rather the free will of man is granted by the sovereignty of God. We are not puppets but god does know our future actions and has the power to influence them according to His will. It is always Gods will not ours that will prevail (in out view of time)or has already prevailed (in Gods view of time) |
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2 | Predestination vs free will--a thought.. | Bible general Archive 1 | Agent Archer | 101326 | ||
Actually, now that I have read more, I have seen other people who share the same viewpoint as me. My wording might be confusing, but I believe what Norrie and Makairos where saying about being a plain ol Christian. If either of you see anything that is different from what you posted about in the "Whats is Calvin and Armawhattheheckitis" thread then forget it. I just couldnt find the right words and I couldnt agree more with what you said. Thank you for your help, even though you didnt know you helped me :) Blessings, Ian |
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3 | Predestination vs free will--a thought.. | Bible general Archive 1 | shalor | 101343 | ||
http://www.calvarychapel.com/library/smith-chuck/books/caatwog.htm CALVINISM, ARMINIANISM AND THE WORD OF GOD the above url gives a good starting read on cavinism and Arminianism with out severely trying to twist you either way. Remember both Calvinism and Arminism a derived by starting out with the word of God and trying to apply Aristoliean logic. Neither Calvin, Arminius, or Aristotle were Jesus. If you end up with a conclusion that contrdicts the word of god or keeps you from following it, you can safely throw it away, no mater how many people try to convince you otherwise. |
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4 | Predestination vs free will--a thought.. | Bible general Archive 1 | Morant61 | 101355 | ||
Greetings Shalor! It is not often that Calvinists and Arminians agree, but I think we would agree that your assessment of both is not accurate. Let me explain, the two theological systems are based upon differing understandings of what Scripture actually says, but they are not based upon logic. Obviously, neither Calvin, nor Arminius were Jesus. However, neither were Paul, Peter, or Rev. Chuck Smith either! :-) By the way, I respect Rev. Smith. The problem is that we all think that we are right, but rather than simply debate the merits of our positions, we have to demonize those who differ from us. One way of demonizing a position is to claim that it is based upon Scripture plus something else, while my view is based just upon Scripture! :-) However, I do fully agre with you last statement my friend. Anything that contradicts Scripture can be thrown out! :-) Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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5 | Predestination vs free will--a thought.. | Bible general Archive 1 | shalor | 101358 | ||
I am sorry you think I was trying to demonize a position. Just explain limited atonement to me using scripture and with out aristotle and with out conflicting half of the new testament and i will withdraw my conclusion |
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6 | Predestination vs free will--a thought.. | Bible general Archive 1 | Morant61 | 101384 | ||
Greetings Shalor! Personally, I don't believe in limited atonement. Your best bet would be to search the archives! :-) Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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