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1 | Isaiah 14 and Ezekiel 28 not Satan! | Bible general Archive 1 | STUDENT7300 | 83214 | ||
Does anyone out there not believe that Isaiah 14:12 refers to Satan but me? Verse 4 clearly indicates that the Lord was referring to the king of Babylon. And now that I dared to say that, can we then say that Ezekiel 28:11-19 refers to Satan? Verse 12 says God was speaking to the king of Tyre. For if we follow the rules of Biblical Interpretation, we must interpret everything according to its context. And prophecy allows for hyperbole and figures of speech. (Notice Ezekiel 29:1-7) Help me to see. Student7300 |
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2 | Isaiah 14 and Ezekiel 28 not Satan! | Bible general Archive 1 | CDBJ | 83215 | ||
There are many on the forum that would probably agree with your synopsis, so what is your point, please expatiate? CDBJ | ||||||
3 | Isaiah 14 and Ezekiel 28 not Satan! | Bible general Archive 1 | STUDENT7300 | 83251 | ||
I have spoken with many lay Christians, Bible teachers, and pastors who adamantly preach that these two passages refer specifically to Satan. I personally believe that God, for His own divine reasons, has not revealed to us Satan's devolution, except for the verse I Timothy 3:6. Everything else seems to refer to after the Fall. Or in other words, it appears that the Holy Spirit is more concerned with us resisting the devil rather than studying him. STUDENT7300 |
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4 | Isaiah 14 and Ezekiel 28 not Satan! | Bible general Archive 1 | Ray | 83267 | ||
Hi STUDENT7300, I agree that the Lord God would have us study the Scriptures rather than studying about the devil and his work. However, it is good to know who and what we are fighting against and in the final analysis it isn't flesh and blood is it? 2 Cor 10:3,4 and 11:13-15. Romans 8:37, "But in all these things we overwhelmingly conquer through (Him) who loved us. For I am convinced that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor things present, nor things to come, nor powers, 39 nor height, nor depth, nor any other created thing, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord." I agree also, that we have to take everything in context. However, I believe that we can learn by comparing Scripture to Scripture. May I offer these comparisons which by the way would differ depending on how one interprets and which version is used. Ezekiel 27:1,26, "...O Tyre, you have said, 'I am perfect in beauty.' Your borders are in the heart of the seas; your builders have perfected your beauty. 26 Your rowers have brought you into great waters; The east wind has broken you In the heart of the seas. Your wealth, your wares, your merchandise, your sailors, and your pilots, your repairers of seams, your dealers in merchandise, And all your men of war who are in you, With all your company that is in your midst, Will fall into the heart of the seas On the day of your overthrow." 1) Ezekiel 27:1, "Moreover, the word of the (Lord) came to me saying, "And you, son of man, take up a lamentation over Tyre; and say to Tyre, who dwells at the entrance to the sea, merchant of the peoples to many coastlands, 'Thus says the Lord God,...'." Ephesians 6:10, "Finally, be strong in the (Lord), and in the strength of His might. Put on the full armor of God, that you may be able to stand firm against the schemes of the devil." 2) Isaiah 14:4-12, "that you will take up this taunt against the king of Babylon, and say, "How the oppressor has ceased, and how fury has ceased! The **Lord has broken the staff of the wicked, The scepter of rulers... 12 How you have fallen from heaven, O star of the morning, son of the dawn! You have been cut down to the earth, you who have weakened the nations! But you said in your heart, 'I will ascend to heaven; I will raise my throne above the stars of God, and I will sit on the mount of assembly in the recesses of the north. I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will make myself like the Most High./" Ezekiel 28:1,2, "The word of the **Lord came again to me saying, "Son of man, say to the leader of Tyre, 'Thus says the Lord God, "Because your heart is lifted up and you have said, 'I am a god, I sit in the seat of gods, In the heart of the seas'; Yet you are a man and not God/, Although you make your heart like the heart of God--" Revelation 2:28,29, "and I will give him the morning star [or, Morning Star]. He who has an ear, let him hear what the **Spirit says to the churches." The stars and parentheses are mine for comparison. Some of the pronouns that are capitalized for literary style in the NASB I have put in lower case to avoid confusion in deification of the devil. So I would say that the leader of Tyre and king of Babylon are types of the devil. From the heart, Ray |
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