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1 | Are Reason and Obedience opposites? | Bible general Archive 1 | Earnest | 82093 | ||
Tim, I missed the most important part: His Word is written in language, based upon grammatical rules. Don't we have to apply 'reason' to His Word in order to properly understand it? My answer is ABSOLUTELY NOT! Reason is the cause for the chaos in Word Study. We all have the witness of the Holy Spirit if we are His. It is the deep calling unto deep which builds us in Him. That's why He said He would BUILD His Church... and He IS! Any number of persons can sit in a congregation and receive different tailor-made messages from the heart of God personally to them. TRUTH is always received in our spirit first, and then revealed to our heart (head/ reason/ thinking)! It is what we KNOW/ HEAR, etc. that brings truth and unity! Knowledge puffs up! There are many "Apostles of Knowledge" who do not know Him... Ever learning, but never coming to a knowledge of the truth... Cognitive vs. Experiential Knowledge... There's a balance in Him! |
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2 | Are Reason and Obedience opposites? | Bible general Archive 1 | BradK | 82105 | ||
Earnest, Possibly I'm misunderstanding you, but it seems that you're advocating experience over the infallible Word of God? If you're not, I apologize. You state,"Reason is the cause for the chaos in Word Study" How so? Certainly we as Christians are not to "check our brains at the door" and toss reason to the wind? Further more you say "Any number of persons can sit in a congregation and receive different tailor-made messages from the heart of God personally to them." Could you possibly clarify with a scriptural basis or elaborate? Lastly, I'm not clear on your definition of Truth. You write "TRUTH is always received in our spirit first, and then revealed to our heart (head/ reason/ thinking)! It is what we KNOW/ HEAR, etc. that brings truth and unity!" Jesus said in John 14:6 the He is the way, the truth, and the life" and in John 17:17 He said "Sanctify them with truth, Thy Word is truth." How is it that what we know/hear, etc. brings truth and unity? Are you referring to the written Word or our interpretation/understanding of it? I don't quite follow. Speaking the Truth in Love, BradK |
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3 | Are Reason and Obedience opposites? | Bible general Archive 1 | Earnest | 82313 | ||
Hi Brad, You said: "Possibly I'm misunderstanding you, but it seems that you're advocating experience over the infallible Word of God? If you're not, I apologize." I most certainly am not advocating experience over the infallible WORD of God. What I am trying to say is that your mind (and my mind) is FALLIBLE! Therefore the Word says: John 16 13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. We all agree with THIS! This is the INFALLIBLE WORD of God! What I am trying to get to you is that your experience of the Holy Spirit is something personal to you. I cannot know that you have it EXCEPT IF... there is a witness in my heart about you. And still then I have to trust that witness... People make as if the WORD is INFALLIBLE and therefore there IS ONE INTERPRETATION!!! That is absolutely ridiculous!!! The WORD is INFALLIBLE! The Word is DEEP! The Word is multi-dimensional! The Word is multi-faceted! Am I suggesting that any wind that blows by is of GOD??? ABSOLUTELY NOT! I am simply saying that there are instances where things appear to be contradictory and they may not be so... Judge Not!! Judge Righteous Judgment!! In proper context they both are balanced and make perfect sense... PROV.11:1 So... How do we interpret the Word? With all our best brilliance... JOHN 16:13 is the real ANSWER! AND to advocates of the great god "REASON"... that's anathema.... because it says that God is in CONTROL of His Church and we (with all of our best efforts) ARE NOT! Yes to those who deify 'REASON'... and want something "concrete" to hang on to, the Holy Spirit is just too subjective (sorry to say). It's been said that you can get a priest and a physicist to argue for eternity. I beg to differ. You can get two priests to do that. You state,"Reason is the cause for the chaos in Word Study" How so? Certainly we as Christians are not to "check our brains at the door" and toss reason to the wind? Agree! ;-)) Our brains are not to be tossed out in the process of understanding. It just is not the final benchmark of growth in God! Submission to the Word and the Spirit IS! You said: Further more you say "Any number of persons can sit in a congregation and receive different tailor-made messages from the heart of God personally to them." Could you possibly clarify with a scriptural basis or elaborate? I don't get your question? Isn't that what effective ministry is all about? Deep calling to Deep! Have you never heard of thousands of testimonies of new-born Christians wondering if the preacher was "reading their mail"?? Scripture Ref. John 16:13 and many, many others. Lastly: Jesus said in John 14:6 the He is the way, the truth, and the life" and in John 17:17 He said "Sanctify them with truth, Thy Word is truth." AMEN and Amen Brad! Jesus is Truth and Jesus is the WORD! The Word is TRUTH! You ask: How is it that what we know/hear, etc. brings truth and unity? Are you referring to the written Word or our interpretation/understanding of it? I don't quite follow. What is a "word"? It is a means of communication. So what am I saying? I am saying that the WORD of God must be communicated to us and received in our hearts before it can spring up and bring forth fruit... I used the word "know" there in the sense of your spirit "knower".ie. the witness in your inner man. Likewise the word "hear" in the sense of "He that hath ears to "HEAR"... our spirit ear to hear... the ear that is in the center of our heart... ...rejuvenated by the Spirit of God obviously... It is the revealation of the Spirit of God upon the hearts of men that brings the Word to LIFE! The Spirit of God brings Truth and Unity among the brethren! Awaiting your reply. |
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4 | Are Reason and Obedience opposites? | Bible general Archive 1 | BradK | 82346 | ||
Earnest, I think we would be in agreement, brother! Communication is having both parties understanding each other. That's why I asked the questions I did. Misunderstanding occurs when we assume we know or hear what the other one is saying, when in fact we haven't. Blessings to you. BradK |
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5 | Are Reason and Obedience opposites? | Bible general Archive 1 | Earnest | 82347 | ||
Brad Blessings to you too! Sorry about the passion! It's probably mis-directed! You are correct on the need for clarity. |
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