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1 | What about so-called revelation knowledg | Bible general Archive 1 | Earnest | 82082 | ||
QUOTE: "He would do well to heed the apostle Paul's advice to "watch your life and your doctrine closely" (1 Tim. 4:16)." END QUOTE Well Praise God! I'd say that Copeland's life does line up with his message ;-)) and that's what makes him and men like Keith Butler all the more believable... Yes God's WORD does work! About "REASON"... 1 Corinthians 2 14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. Isaiah 1:18 "Come now, let us reason together," says the LORD . "Though your sins are like scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they are red as crimson, they shall be like wool. Isaiah 55 8 For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the LORD. 9 For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts. Keeping the Amalekites alive are what cost Saul his walk with God. The Amalakites are representative of the voice of reason. Watchman Nee says: Following the Lord requires Deliverance from Reason. It is very true that we need to have the eyes of our reason put out in order to follow the Lord. What governs our lives? Is it reason or is it authority? When one is enlightened by the Lord he will be blinded by the light, and his reason will be cast aside. Paul turned blind under the great light on the road to Damascus; no longer did he hold on to his reason. Moses never had his eyes put out, nevertheless he acted as if he were blind. He had his arguments and his reasons, but in obedience to God he lived above reason. Those under the authority of God do not live by sight. The servants of God must be delivered from the life of reason. REASON is the first cause of rebellion; hence there can be no control over our words unless reason is thoroughly dealt with first. If anyone wishes to learn obedience he must cast aside "reason". He must either live by God's authority or live by human reason- it is absolutely impossible to live by both! The earthly life of Jesus was entirely above reason. He submitted Himself to God's authority! He neither argued nor questioned! He only obeyed! The more a person lives in glory, the less he reasons! If anyone reasons a lot, we may know that he has never seen the glory of God! The way to know God is through obedience! The obedient alone truly know God! Man's habit of reasoning is so serious that it cannot be resolved without a battle. God's power is accessed through OBEDIENCE! ... Not reason You cannot prosper without being OBEDIENT to God! All who spare the Amalekite out of their own thought (reason) will finally be killed by an Amalekite. |
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2 | Are Reason and Obedience opposites? | Bible general Archive 1 | Morant61 | 82088 | ||
Greetings Earnest! I think all would agree with you that obedience to God is essential and necessary. However, let me ask you this question: How do you determine what it is that God is commanding? His Word is written in language, based upon grammatical rules. Don't we have to apply 'reason' to His Word in order to properly understand it? Toward the end of one of Jesus' parables, He said: Mark 4:23-24a - "'If anyone has ears to hear, let him hear.' 24 'Consider carefully what you hear,' he continued..." I would agree that if one uses 'reason' to disobey God, that person is wrong. However, if one simply accepts whatever one is told, without carefully considering Scripture, that one is just as wrong. Reason and obedience are not opposites. Obedience and disobience are though. There is not one single Scripture which commands us not to use the minds which God has given us. In fact, in your very own quote of Is. 1:18 above, God commands us to come and reason with Him. Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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3 | Are Reason and Obedience opposites? | Bible general Archive 1 | Earnest | 82092 | ||
Hi Tim, He that hath EARS to hear...!!! Amen and AMEN! No... reason and obedience are not necessarily opposed to each other... but I did quote Isa 55:8 Many times when we are led of the Spirit, it seems contrary to sound reason (i.e. man's). Now I know you may say that is where people go off into the deep. A walk of faith is a very personal living relationship. Great dreamers and thinkers often stand against the status quo, and against all odds bring in new revealation or insight which can benefit multitudes eg. Christopher Columbus (not that he was perfect... but who is?) But as Charles Hedrick of Rutgers University says: I am convinced that the only sound approach (to God) is a mix of tradition, Scripture, and inspiration. AMEN! |
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4 | Are Reason and Obedience opposites? | Bible general Archive 1 | Earnest | 82093 | ||
Tim, I missed the most important part: His Word is written in language, based upon grammatical rules. Don't we have to apply 'reason' to His Word in order to properly understand it? My answer is ABSOLUTELY NOT! Reason is the cause for the chaos in Word Study. We all have the witness of the Holy Spirit if we are His. It is the deep calling unto deep which builds us in Him. That's why He said He would BUILD His Church... and He IS! Any number of persons can sit in a congregation and receive different tailor-made messages from the heart of God personally to them. TRUTH is always received in our spirit first, and then revealed to our heart (head/ reason/ thinking)! It is what we KNOW/ HEAR, etc. that brings truth and unity! Knowledge puffs up! There are many "Apostles of Knowledge" who do not know Him... Ever learning, but never coming to a knowledge of the truth... Cognitive vs. Experiential Knowledge... There's a balance in Him! |
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5 | Are Reason and Obedience opposites? | Bible general Archive 1 | Morant61 | 82097 | ||
Greetings Earnest! So, the actual language of Scripture doesn't mean anything? We can make the verse mean anything we want? Truth is truth regardless of what we thing about it. However, Scripture is a language and must be understood according to set rules of grammar and context. This is why Paul said: 2 Tim. 2:4 - "Do your best to present yourself to God as one approved, a workman who does not need to be ashamed and who correctly handles the word of truth." False doctrines come about, not because we approach Scripture with reason, but because we ignore what Scripture actually says. :-) Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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