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1 | What about so-called revelation knowledg | Bible general Archive 1 | gracefull | 82047 | ||
I will have to check the network listing,I only know channels by their local listing #. I will let you know. Gloria is teaching this week. I know you would not 'doctor' a tape. The problem I was illuding to would be more the matter of not listening to a teaching in it's entirety and only picking and choosing certain statements that rub the 'orthodox theology' language the wrong way. He does that on purpose, as you probably know, in order to burst our doctrinally ingrained thinking bubbles. Sort of 'shock treatment'. When these statements are extracted from the context, it is easy to miss the message. I know you disagree here, and I am only making these comments for communicating my perspective, not for debate. God bless |
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2 | What about so-called revelation knowledg | Bible general Archive 1 | EdB | 82061 | ||
Graceful Do you really think some one, especially someone who calls himself a Christian, would take a verse out of context, a verse whose only function was to add shock value, and quote it to smear another person? You need to read the book and see how CRI had repeatedly gone to these ministries trying to clear up any doubt or misunderstanding. How the ministries were given the benefit of the doubt but later staunchly stood on the falsehoods. If your allegation was true don't you think the one who used the quote would have his socks sued off? If nothing less do you not think the speaker which already has a public forum would address the issue and set the record straight if it weren’t true? Graceful I’m afraid you have refuse to be convinced and that is a very dangerous position to be in. Unless you want to see the truth you can never be shown it. EdB |
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3 | What about so-called revelation knowledg | Bible general Archive 1 | gracefull | 82068 | ||
"would take a verse out of context, a verse whose only function was to add shock value, and quote it to smear another person" That is NOT what I said.....I said "The problem I was illuding to would be more the matter of not listening to a teaching in it's entirety and only picking and choosing certain statements that rub the 'orthodox theology' language the wrong way." This disappoints me a lot Ed. Do you see anywhere in this statement where I said SCRIPTURE or VERSE? No, I said 'statements'....statements that are 'theological terms'doctrinal conclusions' NOT SCRIPTURE. "If your allegation was true don't you think the one who used the quote would have his socks sued off? If nothing less do you not think the speaker which already has a public forum would address the issue and set the record straight if it weren’t true?" No, Brother Copeland has made it clear that his teaching is readily available for anyone to read, study and compare. He believes it is the Holy Spirit's ministry to reveal truth to open hearts. No, he would never sue, especially not another brother. This, too, is a a credit to his ministry. "Graceful I’m afraid you have refuse to be convinced and that is a very dangerous position to be in. Unless you want to see the truth you can never be shown it." I feel the same way about you....But I must make one small comment....SCRIPTURALLY noone has made a viable argument. How much of this thread was scriptural discussion and how much was it 'theological commentaries' and opinions? Read this thread from beginning to end...Especially winstonchurchill's post. He stated it well. Noone who is an objective thinker and who relys on the Holy Spirit for truth would be convinced by such a debate. God bless |
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4 | What about so-called revelation knowledg | Bible general Archive 1 | EdB | 82083 | ||
graceful I'm sorry I used the term verse. I never meant it in reference to theology. I meant a paragraph or phrase, I used a term I deal with daily and applied it to a secular meaning and that offended you and I'm never meant that. As for him suing I will give him the benefit of the doubt as that being the reason why he hasn't sued, but I personally think he knows he would not prevail in court. As for not mentioning scripture how do you take a person that is convoluting scripture and use scripture to prove they are wrong. Scripture is a statement of truth not an arguement against falsehoods. When a false teacher says "we have all authority" how do I or anyone else refute that with scripture that says "all authority was given to Jesus" or "we have authority to use the name of Jesus"? There is no scripture that says we have no authority in ourselves only what God makes available to us through the name of Jesus. Which is far different than saying we have ('all' being implied) authority. When a false teacher says Christ died for our physical healing therefore no Christian should ever get sick. Yet the Bible says if any are sick let them call for the elders. However there is no scripture that says yes Christians will get sick even though James 5:14 does imply it. And there are many examples of Christians being sick in the Bible. And the fact that we all died of something. Should that not be sufficient proof? When a false teacher says Adam gave Satan authority in the garden. When there is no mention of any authority transfer mentioned anywhere in the Bible connected to the fall in the garden how can anyone use scripture to refute it. Do you expect the Bible to say someday a false teacher will say there was an authority transfer in the garden hence know this, it is not true? When a false teacher says God had to sneak Jesus on this earth to regain control. Yet the scripture says the earth and all that in on it is the Lords. Do you expect the Bible to say I didn't have to sneak Jesus on to the earth or that God didn't have to regain control? When a fase teacher says Satan had the power of death yet in the book of Job we see God clearly telling Satan what he can and can not do. Do you expect to see a verse that says Satan does not have the power of death? When a false teacher says Jesus went to hell to seize power from Satan. When we clearly know Satan is not in hell but on earth seeking those he can devour. And also know that God controls Satan as seen in Job. Does my argument fall short since the Word does not say Satan ain't in hell. Your listening to what they say and it sounds good but your not thinking through the ramifications of what they say and how what they said effects the truth found in the Bible. EdB |
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5 | What about so-called revelation knowledg | Bible general Archive 1 | gracefull | 82086 | ||
Thank you for your apology and your input...I will use your points for study questions. God bless |
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