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1 | God is everywhere? | Bible general Archive 1 | Ray | 73734 | ||
Hi graceful, In Genesis 18:20, 21 we can see that the Lord Himself came down. We have an interesting comparison/contrast between Genesis 18:21 and John 2:25. Genesis 18:21, "*I will go down now, and see if they have done entirely according to its outcry, which has come to Me;/ and if not, I will know." John 2:24,25, "But Jesus, [Himself] on His part, was not entrusting Himself to them, for *He knew all men, and because He/ did not need anyone to bear witness concerning man, for He [Himself] knew what was in man." The signs that Jesus was doing on the earth, keeping the way of the Lord by doing righteousness and justice, see Genesis 18:19, were quite different from the activities of the people of Sodom and Gomorrah. Another thing to consider is whether you have to choose between the angels or God Himself. Consider John 13:20, "Truly, truly, (I) say to you, he who receives whomever I send receives Me; and he who receives Me receives Him who sent Me." From the heart, Ray |
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2 | God is everywhere? | Bible general Archive 1 | gracefull | 73742 | ||
I absolutely agree with the comparison of John 2:24, 25. As a matter of fact this morning that verse was prevalent in my thinking and I started to use the comparison but decided to wait and see if the conversation continued. However I am not sure of the contrast you speak of. Purhaps you would clarify? Jesus is the fulfillment of the promise. But I do not see a contrast in righteousness and justice. Abraham questioned if the Lord would destroy the wicked with the righteous.. and indeed interceeded for them. I do not understand the question/observation of choosing between angels and the Lord. Please clarify your response God bless |
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3 | God is everywhere? | Bible general Archive 1 | Ray | 73805 | ||
Hi graceful, I thought in my mind that the comparison between Genesis and John were notable in word content. Personally, I saw a "contrast" in Persons for the passages. 1) In Genesis 18 we see the Angel and the other two angels doing the work of God. You had expressed it to be your understanding that the angels had come down; so I tried to express that whether it was angels, angels and Angel, or God Himself, if we receive whomever He sends we receive Him. 2) The John 2:23-25 passage to my mind deals more with the Person of God and His signs [being accomplished by the Son of God]. Whether it is translated "He Himself" in verse 25 or simply "He knew what was in man" it to my mind is talking about the God/Man. 3) As far as the contrast in righteousness and justice is concerned, I only meant that Jesus in doing the signs of God was keeping the way of the Lord as a chosen One. The contrast is between Sodom and Gomorrah and us and this Man Jesus Christ. I hope I clarified my response to you. From the heart, Ray |
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4 | God is everywhere? | Bible general Archive 1 | gracefull | 73813 | ||
Good morning Ray. When I reread the the entire passage I came to several points, and you have touched on them.... 1. The NAS translates one of the visitors as LORD which to my understanding is Jehovah. So we have Jehovah and two others (not at the beginning identified as angels). Do you see this as a possible symbolism of the trinity considering they were there and addressing the covenant? 2. Abraham is being 'tested' to speak out for the righteous, to interceed and and even respectfully question Jehovah.(he was to teach righteousness and justice to the future generations) 3. When the 'angels' arrived at Sodom there were only two and they are no longer refered to as 'men' but are now specifically called angels. the LORD (Jehovah) is no longer with them. 4. Yes, I agree that John 2:23-25 "He Himself" fits with LORD Jehovah (the absolute being) and "I am" as at the burning bush and Jusus used this in Mark 14:61-63 (which explains the extreme reaction of the priest) Yes there is the contrast/parallel The opportunity to turn and receive or reject. Same righteousness and justice. ? Why do you suppose Jehovah chose to share and offer Abraham the opportunity to speak up at this point of time? What is the significance of the covenant? God bless! |
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