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1 | Do we go directly to Heaven? | Bible general Archive 1 | EdB | 72186 | ||
David I think you threw the first insult by telling how I needed to study. To me that was an attempt to insinuate that you were better studied than me. If I took it wrong I apologize. Also I would love to have an intellectual decision on this subject, however your exegesis of John 20:17 is incorrect as supportted by Eph 4:8 Hebrews 9:12-14 and the Greek language itself. I tried to point that out and you refused to accept it. I also tried to show you that what Jesus said in the parable of Luke 16 followed the accepted teaching of the death and the dwelling place of the dead in Jewish culture. Therefore if Luke 16 is incorrect then Jesus either was not aware this was the common teaching or he sought to reinforce a false teaching. To disprove this you used proof texts in an attempt to prove your point ripping them out of context and violating their real meaning. The statement, “If the saved in "Abraham's bosom" all accompanied Jesus at His ascension then why is King David still in his grave and has not ascended into heaven? Acts 2:29 and 34” . Tells me you either do not know or do not understand the relationship of the body and soul upon death as defined by orthodox Christianity. Your argument violates the last 2000 years of teaching within Christianity and to me is not worth discussing. I attempted to discuss crucifixion with you but you cite me some students on the web tried this. What about recorded history. Rome and crucifixion wasn’t so long ago that we don’t have any record secular information on the subject. Many Roman historians have written on the subject. For me to throw out all the legitimate research that has been done on this subject in favor of some students on the internet would to me show I do not consider the subject of value. I think it best we let this subject drop. As I said I thank you for your advice to continue to study the Bible. EdB |
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2 | Do we go directly to Heaven? | Bible general Archive 1 | David_24597 | 72187 | ||
EdB, read what the OT prophets have said concerning the state of the dead. Then tell me what the parable of the rich man and Lazarus means. Until then I agree that there is no reason for us to continue this discussion. | ||||||