Results 1 - 5 of 5
|
|
|||||
Results from: Answered Bible Questions, Answers, Unanswered Bible Questions, Notes Ordered by Verse | ||||||
Results | Verse | Author | ID# | |||
1 | Greek genitive cases and the word "of" | Bible general Archive 1 | Makarios | 69047 | ||
Interpretive Challenges... Greek genitive cases of the word "of", comparing literal translations to dynamic equivalence translation.. According to the following examples, which translation of the Greek genitive case is superior? The traditionally more literal translation or its 'dynamic equivalent'? Example 1: Ephesians 1:13.. [NASB] "In Him, you also, after listening to the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation- having also believed, you were sealed in Him with the Holy Spirit of promise," [NRSV] "In him you also, when you had heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, and had believed in him, were marked with the seal of the promised Holy Spirit;" Since the Greek genitive has a wide range, is "the promised Holy Spirit" stronger here, or is the more literal "Holy Spirit of promise" more precise? Other examples include: Example 2: Ephesians 1:17-18 [NKJV] "... that you may know what is the hope of His calling.." "... in order that you may know the hope to which he has called you.." [NIV] Is one "stronger" than the other? Or do these translations communicate entirely differently in these verses? Example 3: Hebrews 1:3 [KJV] " ... and upholding all things by the word of his power.." [NRSV] "... and he sustains all things by his powerful word. .." Which descriptive genitives in the above examples are 'stronger' or more accurate? |
||||||
2 | Greek genitive cases and the word "of" | Bible general Archive 1 | Michaelget | 69048 | ||
I believe the traditional more literal translation is superior. Your question does not appear to be spiritual in nature. Are you a Greek student? | ||||||
3 | Greek genitive cases and the word "of" | Bible general Archive 1 | Makarios | 69050 | ||
Greetings "Michaelget", Welcome to the Forum, my friend! :-) I suppose that it would be good, common courtesy for a well seasoned forum poster, such as myself, to give you a good welcome to this new medium that you have found, called the "StudyBibleForum." As for your response, I do appreciate it. Yes, I must point out to you that my question was indeed, a question that is "spiritual" in nature, my friend. Do not worry, I forgive you of the question, since you are as green to this Forum as any newcomer would be. I do strongly advise that since you are so new, that you would acquaint yourself with this Forum's policies in the "About the Forum" link on your lower left hand side of the screen. Or just view a post called "A Newcomer's Guide to the Forum" written by a poster then known as JVH0212, written about a year and a half ago. Blessings to you, and may the Lord bless your time on this Forum. Makarios |
||||||
4 | Greek genitive cases and the word "of" | Bible general Archive 1 | Makarios | 69051 | ||
Attention!! All Forum Members who have dwelt here for two months or less, here is the "Revised Newcomer's Guide to the Forum", originally posted by JVH0212 on 07/25/2001. JVH0212 is now 'kalos.' JVH0212 was one of the early great leaders and pioneers of this Forum, being this Forum's first ever "Most Active User"; the first EVER poster to reach 1,100 posts. Read his post that follows.. "A Newcomer's Guide to StudyBibleForum.com Free! Free! Free! You may file and use this guide without cost or obligation. It is uncopyrighted and will remain so. Similar guides are being sold online for as high as 50 cents each. Welcome to the Forum! Hopefully you will find here much to inform, entertain, inspire and occasionally confuse you. In the brief history of the Forum (as of the date of this writing, 07-25-2001) there have been one or two minor disagreements between members, which are always resolved amicably and diplomatically in a spirit of peace and brotherhood. To my knowledge we have yet to see one person convinced against their will. Nor should they be. I doubt whether any three of us could completely agree on lunch, let alone doctrine. (Disclaimer: The views presented herein do not necessarily represent the views of our gracious host, the Lockman Foundation, or a majority of active Forum members. The views here are my own.) Follwing are guidelines for your consideration: 1) First, before you do anything else, learn to use the Forum Search function. It will make your life on the Forum much simpler. 2) As the Lockman Foundation suggests, use Search to determine whether your question has previously been asked by someone else. 3) Read the Terms of Use. Among other things there, you will note that StudyBibleForum.com is neither a discussion group nor a topical survey. 4) "Your submission may not include...[certain] characters." If you should attempt to use one of these characters, then when you go to preview your submission, you would get the error message above, listing all the unacceptable characters. Print and save that error message. (It may be the only undisputed point you'll ever find at this website.) Normally, unacceptable characters are not a problem here at the Forum. 5) While you are new to the Forum, you may unintentionally submit the same entry two or more times. If you do, don't worry about it. It's easy to do. 6) In the unlikely event that someone will misunderstand or disagree with a particular point of yours, try not to take it personally. Even the closest of friends do not agree on everything. 7) Always bear in mind that the Bible contains many verses which are capable of more than one biblically supported interpretation. In these cases, a calm, reasoned, polite discussion is preferred. 8) There are but few basic principles of biblical interpretation. If you have not already done so, familiarize yourself with and apply them, particularly the principle of analogia scriptura which is defined here: John MacArthur writes: "One of the basic principles of biblical interpretation is the *analogia scriptura*, the analogy of Scripture. In other words, we must compare Scripture with Scripture in order to understand its full and proper sense. And SINCE THE BIBLE DOESN'T CONTRADICT ITSELF, ANY INTERPRETATION OF A SPECIFIC PASSAGE THAT CONTRADICTS THE GENERAL TEACHING OF THE BIBLE IS TO BE REJECTED." (Emphasis added.) 9) To know what constitutes a good and appropriate posting, read the 5 voting questions and the explanations that follow. 1) At any posting, click on the title. 2) This will take you to a page that allows you to vote. 3) Scroll down until you come to "Cast vote" and click on those words. 4) At the next page, scroll down until you see the voting questions and their explanations. 10) In my experience I have found that the Lockman Foundation sincerely desires and welcomes your input. Do not hesitate to contact them with your questions, comments and suggestions. 11) You can save yourself needless frustration if you remember that you need not reply to every criticism you receive. 12) An excellent standard to expect of yourself and your fellow post-ers is: "Every person has a right to their own opinion; however no person has a right to be wrong in their facts." Check your facts carefully before you post them publically for all the world to read and remember. Careful scholarship will save you a lot of embarrassment. 13) 2 Timothy 2:23 (ASV) "But foolish and ignorant questionings refuse, knowing that they gender strifes." (The possibility, however slight, exists that every great once in awhile, you may encounter a "foolish and ignorant" question. Avoid being drawn into a dispute over it. Stick to the issues and avoid naming personalities involved in the dispute.) WELCOME TO THE FORUM! --JVH0212 "In essentials unity, in nonessentials liberty, and in all things charity."" |
||||||
5 | Greek genitive cases and the word "of" | Bible general Archive 1 | Makarios | 69053 | ||
Greetings to the "newer" Members, Once upon a time, there was a "voting" system that existed as a part of this Forum. It no longer exists. I will take it upon myself to modify point #9 above... 9) To know what constitutes a good and appropriate posting, read the 4 criteria that is displayed at the 'preview' of every post: "1. This post is biblically based and whenever possible, I have included Bible references to support it. 2. This post is not intended as a personal attack on the authority of the Bible or on other users of this forum. 3. This post is not submitted as an effort to foster divisiveness, ill-will, dissension or other disruptions to this forum. 4. I have carefully proofread my post and believe it represents my best efforts." After your post has been written to meet those satisfactory conditions, then you can be assured that your post will more than likely be 'well received' and enjoyed by others; constituting a good and appropriate posting. Grace to you, Makarios |
||||||