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1 | Pretribulation or slightly after ? | Bible general Archive 1 | farout | 42585 | ||
I am a pre-millenniumist, however I am finding it very hard to believe a pre-tribulation view. To me it seems to point that the world is, and will continue to become more wicked. at some point, which only the Father knows, Christ will rapture His church. So my question is, is not there tribulation now for Christians in the worls? If Things must get worse then would not a slightly, say 10 to 20 percent into the tribulation view be more accurate? I find it hard to fit in seven weeks here and grab some information somewhere else and fit it into a nice little package. Darby did not come up with the pre-trib theory ubtil 1820. From what I have read early church fathers did not think this way. I would really like some indepth references or factual answers. God Bless, farout@onemain.com |
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2 | Pretribulation or slightly after ? | Bible general Archive 1 | CDBJ | 42586 | ||
Check ouy the following www.signministries.org for the best answers that I have found! CDBJ |
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3 | Pretribulation or slightly after ? | Bible general Archive 1 | farout | 42646 | ||
I would like some person to person dialogue please. | ||||||
4 | Pretribulation or slightly after ? | Bible general Archive 1 | CDBJ | 42691 | ||
Eschatology has more or less been my main interest, while studying through the Bible, and has been for over the past 36 years. There have always been portions of Scripture that haven't made sense to me from either the pretribulational or the posttrubulational view and these are the only two schools that even come close to standing up to any real scrutiny. The key that has to fit for the absolute truth comes to us from Psalm 119:160 (NASB) The sum of Thy word is truth, And every one of Thy righteous ordinances is everlasting. The sum of thy word actually means the totality of every thing that God has said in his Word on any given subject combined will give us truth. We are not at liberty to pick and chose if there is portion of Scripture that the runs contrary to what we think is truth. There are no mistakes in God's Word. What might appear to be a contradiction in the Bible, is in fact a paradigm paralysis on the part of the searcher who fails to find the common denominator that causes all the Scripture pieces to fit or not fit together. I tried to show you something that I found that cleared up all of the confusion that I have had for years, by pointing you to the truth. But it seem that what you are looking for isn't the truth of eschatology but a friendly dialogue of sorts. Let me say before we started, my position is firm pre-millenniums and I use to be an proponent of pretribulation rapture but that has changed with knowledge that is backed up with truth. So you shoot out with the darts one at a time and I will do the best that I can. CDBJ |
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5 | Pretribulation or slightly after ? | Bible general Archive 1 | farout | 42779 | ||
Brother CDBJ: Thank you for sharing your personal pilgrimage in studing the Truth. I too have been studing for eschatology for nearly 20 years. I believe by what you say we are on the same track. I am totally in agreement in the fact some eschatological experts theories have been forced to fit and the students they have taught their theories rather than how to search and study the Word for themselves. Study requires time and reading, something that is sadly lacking in many christians today. My study has brought me to basicly the same conclusion, except I am persuaded there will always be tribulation for the christian. Tribulation seems to get greater and more evil to the point of the rapture. My seeking is at what point will wickedness get to the point whem the Rapture will happen? No man knows only the Father. So how can certian authors who make a living out of ploting out the rapture, who will be left behind, and what mark they will receive be so utterly pin point positive? This appears to me as a money making fear tatic by so called expert "Eschatologist". Jesus said over and over when you see this or that the time is not YET. Which leads me to believe we may have many more years of birth pains to go through before He returns. I find it hard to fit exact little pieces of scripture taken out of context and put it together with another verse some where else and call it conclusive proof of the exact coming of Christ. That to me is a serious misrepresentation of Gods Holy Word. So...I did look at web address you suggested. I did not mean to shoot any darts. I wanted to hear if anyone else had struggled as I have trying to make these theories align with what the Word said. Thank You for personal touch. Peace in Christ, farout |
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6 | Pretribulation or slightly after ? | Bible general Archive 1 | CDBJ | 42870 | ||
Farout , I get excited when I study future events and the Lord reveals something new to me that I hadn't seen before. I can't even begin to tell you how many books that I have read on eschatology and all but the last one that I have been studying with have left me with more questions then they have answered. You are right when you say that no one knows the day or the hour, as Jesus stated this in Matthew as you well know. What a lot of people don't realize is that Christ didn't say anything beyond that. The disciples were very concerned when they finally realized that Jesus was going to leave, so their question to him in Matthew was very pointed as to when he would return. Scripture tells us that the Gentiles always seek wisdom but the Jew look for a sign, so that was the thrust of their question: what will be the sign of your coming and the sign of the end of the world; which is the Koine Greek word (aion) and is better translated age. It appears that they knew that the end of the age would be at the same time by their question. If you like to study from an extra biblical source that ties all of the Scripture together you might get a copy of a book called The Sign by Robert Van Kampen, It is with out a doubt the most informative book that I have ever read on eschatology, baring none. I have been through it four or five times and I can't grasp it all yet. I wanted so much to meet the author but he went to be with the Lord just after finishing the book; it seem as though the Lord left him here just long enough to give it to us and I can tell you it has been a real blessing to me. Must rush for now, CDBJ |
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7 | Pretribulation or slightly after ? | Bible general Archive 1 | Reformer Joe | 42880 | ||
"This gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all the nations, and then the end will come." --Matthew 24:14 There are a few more things Jesus said about the Second Coming. --Joe! |
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8 | Pretribulation or slightly after ? | Bible general Archive 1 | CDBJ | 42889 | ||
This gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all the nations, and then the end will come." --Matthew 24:14 It doesn't look like man will get the job done though, we seem to be getting further behind. There are probably more dialects now in all the languages then there are missionaries; there again God has it covered. Rev. 14:6-7 And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people, 7Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters. |
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