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1 | Was Satan on earth before Adam | Bible general Archive 1 | Jesusman | 40890 | ||
Hello, The first question I must ask is, "Do you know more than Moses or Jesus?" Jesus confirmed the Mosaic authorship of the Pentateuch. Also, As I have pointed out, the existance of the Code of Hammurabi, found in 1902, proves that not only was there a law and form of writing prior to Moses, but that Moses could've written the Pentateuch. The JEDP idea is based upon the belief that written text didn't come about until several centuries after Moses, and that such a detailed Law was developed over many centuries. The Code of Hammurabi disproves both of the presuppositions that JEDP is based upon. Also, as I have pointed out, A person's writing style changes over time. Moses just didn't sit down at his laptop, and type out the Pentateuch in a couple weeks. It took him over 40 years to write it. 40 years is a long time. A person's writing style will change, as will his vocabulary, and grammer. On top of that, there is the differences between the terms YHWH and Elohim, the two terms that JEDP involves. YHWH is the personal name for God, and impies a meaning of presence. Elohim is more generic, and implies a meaning of unity and strength. It is also plural, while YHWH is singular. Such differences are pertainent to the context in which they are used. Sorry, but the developers of the JEDP idea are wrong, and have been wrong for nearly a century. As for the bit about being patronized, as I said, my degree is in this subject. I have several books on this subject, research papers from college, as well as photocopied material from research texts from the library. Just because you found some information on the internet doesn't mean squat. Try researching that information, and analyze it next to modern archeology. You will find that the JEDP idea is a dead and ancient philosophy with no bearing in reality. Liberal theology is the reason why many of these cooky ideas get developed in the first place. Instead of looking at the Scriptures at face value, many liberals will disavow miracles because they cannot be proven through science (which I have yet to understand), disavow the authorship of the biblical texts for some unknown reason, and attempt to find an explaination that fits their own perverted desires. I have never understood where the idea came from to not believe the miracles took place because they couldn't be proven by science. The very definition of "Miracle" is that it is an event which is "supernatural" or beyond nature. Science is the study of the natural. By their very definitions science and Miracles are incompatable. As a result, The liberals are the ones who came up with the swoon theory for the resurrection, the crazy notion that Jesus passed out on the cross, and the damp air of the tomb awakened him. It was the liberals who came up with the idea that instead of walking on the water, Jesus actually stepped on stones that where just below the surface of the water. These are only two of the thousands of silly explainations that the liberal theologins have developed. Jesusman |
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2 | Was Satan on earth before Adam | Bible general Archive 1 | LuckyCharm | 41052 | ||
Jesusman, you say "I have never understood where the idea came from to not believe the miracles took place because they couldn't be proven by science. The very definition of "Miracle" is that it is an event which is "supernatural" or beyond nature. Science is the study of the natural. By their very definitions science and Miracles are incompatable." C.S. Lewis actually has an excellent chapter on this subject in his book, "Miracles" (chapter 7, Miracles and the Laws of Nature). "Miracle is, from the point of view of the scientist, a form of doctoring, tampering, (if you like) cheating. It introduces a new factor into the situation, namely supernatural force, which the scientist had not reckoned on... The necessary truth of the laws, far from making it impossible that miracles should occur, makes it certain that if the Supernatural is operating they must occur. For if the natural situation by itself, and the natural situation *plus* something else, yielded only the same result, it would be then that we should be faced with a lawless and unsystematic universe. The better you know that two and two make four, the better you know that two and three don't." I recommend this classic of Lewis's for anyone interested in miracles. He is an amazing writer. --Cheryl |
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