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1 | For Joe. | Bible general Archive 1 | Reformer Joe | 14589 | ||
Charis: If you are going to rebuke me, point out Scripture. Your opinion holds just as much weight as mine unless one of them is supported by the Bible (1 Timothy 3:16). How in the world is it bigoted to point to the Word of God as the source of truth about Him? When I frequently address skeptics and atheists and agnostics, I certainly take a completely different approach; but this is a Bible study forum for people to discuss the BIBLE, not to dream up some New-Age fantasies. The person to whom I addressed my reply claims that she is a believer in Jesus Christ, but she is very wrong on several notions about the very nature of God and the nature of humanity. I have brought them up before, extensively pointing her to Scriptures which point out these errors; and the only reply I get is silence and repetition of the same unbiblical notions. Not terribly teachable (2 Timothy 3:16). I am sorry if you see my zeal for doctrinal purity as intolerance. Please be assured that you and anyone else on here can believe whatever you want, but I have a written standard which is very intolerant of falsehood about our Creator. The truth is pretty narrow, Charis, and it is wishy-washiness about standing up for what our holy God has revealed about Himself that has led to such anemia in the church today. Consider this to be correction (2 Timothy 3:16). --Joe! |
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2 | For Joe. | Bible general Archive 1 | charis | 14591 | ||
Dear Joe! "Keep your behavior excellent among the Gentiles, so that in the thing in which they slander you as evildoers, they may on account of your good deeds, as they observe them, glorify God in the day of visitation." 1 Peter 2:12 NASB My point is that not all are converted from Gentile to perfected believer (like yourself?) in an instant, nor are all brought up in an environment that recognizes Christ. Indeed, you are zealous, but I believe that we should all know the difference between zealousy for Jesus, and being a religious zealot, often intolerant and bigoted. Joe, the letters to Timothy are written by Paul to his most accomplished disciple. We cannot expect all Christians to be at this level, can we? I know that I may not yet be there, but I apsire to it. However, intemperate views can, and often do, discourage the less mature, and we are responsible for that. Friend, do you really expect everyone that logs in to this Forum to be as responsible as that? I don't. Blessings and peace in Jesus' name, charis |
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3 | For Joe. | Bible general Archive 1 | Reformer Joe | 14633 | ||
Charis: 1. I wasn't dealing with "Gentiles," but with individuals who claim to be believers in Jesus Christ. The only one slandering me as an evildoer is you; and 1 Peter deals with good behavior in the face of false accusations of those who are enemies of the cross (cf. 2:15). This verse is not being used in its proper context. 2.I never claim to be perfect, but the object of discussion in this forum is a perfect standard. I arrogantly hold that the Bible is truth, and that rather than making up reality, we read and believe what God says. 3. While sanctification is a life-long process (with some further down the road than others), it does not take place apart from the Word of God. If you will look back at the post that caused you so much dismay (if indeed you did read the original post which I made regarding the statement "Who made God?"), about three sentences were mine and the rest of the post was verse after verse from Scripture supporting the truth that God is uncreated. If we are to grow in Christ, it is not by sitting around and discussing "what would be neat," but by carefully examining the Scriptures. Some undoubtedly have more experience in doing that, but there is no question that those who are ignoring the Bible in their search for truth are NOT being sanctified. Continued ignorance of the Holy Bible is deplorable to its Author. Finally, Second Timothy 3:16 says nothing about Timothy as an acomplished apostle, but it says a great deal about the Bible: "All Scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness." This is exactly how I used Scripture (i.e. CORRECTLY); so again, your beef is with Paul and with the Holy Spirit, not with me. --Joe! |
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4 | For Joe. | Bible general Archive 1 | charis | 14662 | ||
Dear Joe! Peace, friend. Yes, I did read your post. I also saw your answer to Raymondo's question. ("For Joe") It is my opinion that your answer was more akin to a Louis L'Amour 'Sixgun Solution' than, "...but speaking the truth in love, we are to grow up in all aspects into Him, who is the head, even Christ, from whom the whole body, being fitted and held together by that which every joint supplies, according to the proper working of each individual part, causes the growth of the body for the building up of itself in love." Ephesians 4:15,16 NASB. Brother, I am well aware that some of the people that log in to this forum are woefully immature and misguided. We have an opportunity to bring balance to them. Your method of 'slapping them upside the head' with a 'perfect standard' may not be the most effective. Indeed, it could cause many to leave the best thing they've ever encountered (sad, but true in many cases). Is it just me, or do I detect an attitude of 'shape up, or ship out!' in your evangelical method? You say that I quoted a Scripture only focused on the Gentiles. I can tell you are a black-or-white kind of guy, and indeed, from the Lord's lofty viewpoint, this is the case, but many on earth (here) are caught between their Gentile nature and the calling of God. Sadly, some for a (seemingly inexcusable) long time. Is there a time limit before the entire weight of the Scriptural standard comes to bear? Who decides that time? I hope it is not you. :-) Finally, your arrogant stance of perfect interpretation (and implementation) of Paul and the Holy Spirit, with myself as the one with a 'beef' against God, is cheap and cocky. As you said before, you have your opinion, and I have mine :-) True, the Bible is the perfect standard, given by God to imperfect man. Our 'wielding' of it correctly demands balance and wisdom, not just knowledge. Joe!, is it possible that you are not always so rigid and legalistic in real life? That you are much more temperate when you are with family and church? I would like to believe so, and in fact, do believe so. Please know that I am not trying to be an enemy. My comments to you are also for the benefit (at least, this is my intention) of this whole forum. I remain your colleague in Christ Jesus, charis |
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