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1 | What is this "open door?" | Rev 4:1 | Gary139 | 156568 | ||
This open door is an invitation to come up to higher level. It speaks of the prophetic, of which Paul exhorts us to desire more than any other gift (1 Cor 14:1). Jesus, when speaking to nicodemus (John 3:3), tells us that unless someone is born again then they cannot 'see' the kingdom of heaven that also speaks of the prophetic as Jesus only 'did' what he saw his father doing (John 3:19). This open door is a gateway in which we can enter into a visionary encounter with the Lord. This open door is still open and by meditating on this it is a biblically safe way to see in a prophetic vision the glory of Gods throne. So be still and know that He is God. | ||||||
2 | What is this "open door?" | Rev 4:1 | BradK | 156580 | ||
Hi Gary, I think quite honestly, your interpretation is a stretch! You cannot ignore the context, which you do in all the scripture quotations you cite:-( For example, 1 Cor. 14:1 says this: "Pursue love, yet desire earnestly spiritual gifts, but especially that you may prophesy." This is the imperative where love is the focus and it closely follows 1 Cor. 13:13, where are told (as a comparative) , "...the greater of these is love". You appear to be the only one who holds to the view of John 3:3! That is pure and simple eisegesis, my friend. You're also making quantum leaps by stating, "This open door is a gateway in which we can enter into a visionary encounter with the Lord". There is simply no scripture which asserts this or backs your contention. Are you familiar with the principle of 2 Timothy 2:15 or Pauls' admonition in 1 Cor. 4:6, where he admonishes us, "...not to think beyond what is written"? 2 Cor. 4:2 implores believers by these words: "but we have renounced the things hidden because of shame, not walking in craftiness or adulterating the word of God, but by the manifestation of truth commending ourselves to every man's conscience in the sight of God." Now, let's rightly consider some perspective both sound and in context. First,read the context of Rev. 3:8. Second, in Rev. 4:1, John is the one conveying his vision- hence the Book of Revelation! This "revelation was given to HIM, not us! Finally, the Commentary Critical offers this: "1. After this—Greek, “After these things,†marking the opening of the next vision in the succession. Here is the transition from “the things which are†(Rev 1:19), the existing state of the seven churches, as a type of the Church in general, in John’s time, to “the things which shall be hereafter,†namely, in relation to the time when John wrote. I looked—rather as Greek, “I saw†in vision; not as English Version means, I directed my look that way. was—Omit, as not being in the Greek. opened—“standing openâ€; not as though John saw it in the act of being opened. Compare Ez 1:1; Mt 3:16; Ac 7:56; 10:11. But in those visions the heavens opened, disclosing the visions to those below on earth. Whereas here, heaven, the temple of God, remains closed to those on earth, but John is transported in vision through an open door up into heaven, whence he can see things passing on earth or in heaven, according as the scenes of the several visions require." Your hit-n-miss hodge-podge of scripture slinging leaves much to be desired:-( Speaking the Truth in Love, BradK |
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3 | What is this "open door?" | Rev 4:1 | Gary139 | 156588 | ||
Hello Brad, Thanks for that. I will seek the Lord for the truth of what you say and will bring to your thinking some of what the Spirit of Truth brings. I look forward to hearing your response to my response when I give it. I will of course say just one thing and that is that you were right to point out that love is the greatest of all these, however I assumed that because love is fundamental to christian living and needs to be applied to all scripture then you would automatically assume that. There is a far deeper revelation of the Lord that we can receive from scripture and I can understand where you are coming from. I was remiss in not clearly quoting in great detail everything that I tried to explain. We need to judge all of what we say by scripture but we also should not box the Lord in on how He may speak to us. I will forward you my thoughts and revelation of the book of revelation and the scriptures you have quoted. This is not to deceive or to hinder but to allow the soul to prosper in the Lord. God is Spirit and being a christian is purely supernatural (which we must bring and proclaim into the natural realm), we receive things from the supernatural realm, the Word of God cannot be truly understood without the counsul of the Holy Spirit, who of course is Spirit. If we want to encounter God on a whole new level then we must be prepared for things to seem a little bit out of the ordinairy. As I have said, my friend, I shall go through your answer prayerfully and see what I get. If I am wrong you will be the second to get an apology (the Lord will be the first). May you have a blessed bank holiday. Love in Christ Gary139. |
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4 | What is this "open door?" | Rev 4:1 | kalos | 156591 | ||
Interpretation and Application ____________________ "spiritualizing...too often ignores or denies all that may be learnt from the interpretation of a passage, and robs those to whom it belongs of a precious treasure" ____________________ Interpretation and Application 'It is of the utmost importance that we should clearly and constantly discriminate between these two. 'The Interpretation of a passage is one thing, but the Application of that passage is quite a different thing. 'The Interpretation of a passage belongs to the occasion when, and the persons to whom, or of whom, the words were originally intended. When that has been settled, then it is open to us to make an application of those words to ourselves or others, so far as we can do so without coming into conflict with any other passages. (...) 'It may even be, when the application is made in full accord with Scripture teaching given elsewhere, that it is not only true, but may have a far deeper and more real meaning than the interpretation itself; and may convey truths and lessons far beyond it. 'This is very different from the common practice called spiritualizing. This too often ignores or denies all that may be learnt from the interpretation of a passage, and robs those to whom it belongs of a precious treasure-, while it appropriates to itself or other parties the property which has thus been stolen. 'Such a practice cannot be too strongly deprecated; not only because of the injury done to the Word itself, and the mistakes involved, but because it is so wholly unnecessary. 'All the sweetness, all the blessing, all the truth can be obtained by a wise application, without in the slightest degree impairing the true interpretation. This may be left and preserved in all its integrity, and yet something really spiritual may be appropriated by application; all, in fact, that can be desired, without doing any violence to the Divine Word, as is done when its interpretation is not only ignored, but often when the application is actually substituted for the interpretation.' ____________________ www.bible.org * * * * * * * * * * * * * For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. 2 Tim 4:3a NIV |
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